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Recognition Slip
This is a question for Thomsonfly cabin crew.
How good is it to receive a "Recognition Slip" (itīs a official piece of paper or form that says..."I would like to show my personal recognition to the above named person because of the following reasons:..) from another crew member on the flight? and does it have a real value in order to have more chances to be kept on during the winter?
I had never seen one of those before, so iīm quite surprised as i didnīt even know they existed. I thought the only thing you could receive from another crewmember was assesments
looking forward to your replies!
How good is it to receive a "Recognition Slip" (itīs a official piece of paper or form that says..."I would like to show my personal recognition to the above named person because of the following reasons:..) from another crew member on the flight? and does it have a real value in order to have more chances to be kept on during the winter?
I had never seen one of those before, so iīm quite surprised as i didnīt even know they existed. I thought the only thing you could receive from another crewmember was assesments
looking forward to your replies!
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As far as I know a recognition slip isn't quite the same as an assessment, however I believe they still go on your file in the office and I'm sure they can't do anything other than help your chances of getting a contract!!
They used to be used quite a bit but been forgotten about recently what with the drive on everyone having assessments! I think it's quite nice though to get a little thanks in that way from other crew and it's a more official way of doing it, so your csbm gets to see it!
I think any of the other crew can give you one, for any reason they think worth it, and vice versa, IFS or CC!
They used to be used quite a bit but been forgotten about recently what with the drive on everyone having assessments! I think it's quite nice though to get a little thanks in that way from other crew and it's a more official way of doing it, so your csbm gets to see it!
I think any of the other crew can give you one, for any reason they think worth it, and vice versa, IFS or CC!
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Recognition slips
Its good to recieve these recognising when others have gone above and beyond, however dont think they count towards permanent jobs. So long as you report on plenty of time for duty, no sickness, work hard, submit plenty of assessments i.e 1 every flight (a pain I know but they are all worked out at a percentage) and there are vacancies at the end of season - you should have no problems gaining a full time contract. Good Luck and hope this helps.
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actually its two per month for temporary crew... or was this summer...
doesnt have to be 1 per flight!! the IFS would go mad!!
could you imagine asking for an assment on a pmi(763??) i only asked once... haha! never again!!
doesnt have to be 1 per flight!! the IFS would go mad!!
could you imagine asking for an assment on a pmi(763??) i only asked once... haha! never again!!
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Reserving seats then a/c gets changed
Hi All!! Sorry to bother you all....Air Traffic calling!!
My parents are flying from MAN on 21/10 to Rhodes on TOM2743. They paid the extra money to "reserve/request" 3 specific seats. As it was a 767 they didn't want to sit in the middle and got seats near the window.
They have just had a new set of tickets sent to them from TOM saying that the a/c has changed to a 757 and therefore their seats have changed....and they are not together!
Can anyone confirm the a/c type for this trip on 21/10 and also if it is a 757 then how do they go around getting a refund for the seat request as obviously its been wasted?
Thanks!!!
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My parents are flying from MAN on 21/10 to Rhodes on TOM2743. They paid the extra money to "reserve/request" 3 specific seats. As it was a 767 they didn't want to sit in the middle and got seats near the window.
They have just had a new set of tickets sent to them from TOM saying that the a/c has changed to a 757 and therefore their seats have changed....and they are not together!
Can anyone confirm the a/c type for this trip on 21/10 and also if it is a 757 then how do they go around getting a refund for the seat request as obviously its been wasted?
Thanks!!!
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Just a couple of recruitment questions which if answered would be useful for anyone applying for Thomsonfly.com crew next year;
1/ When does recruitment take place throughout the year? From how early until how late?
2/ What chances do people have of getting their first or second base choice? Are any crews dual-based?
3/ How long are Thomsonfly's training courses? Are you trained on all types within the TOM fleet?
4/ What incentives are there & how good are they? Allowances, language payment, Thomson holidays etc.?
5/ How is morale at TOM? What's the atmosphere like?
1/ When does recruitment take place throughout the year? From how early until how late?
2/ What chances do people have of getting their first or second base choice? Are any crews dual-based?
3/ How long are Thomsonfly's training courses? Are you trained on all types within the TOM fleet?
4/ What incentives are there & how good are they? Allowances, language payment, Thomson holidays etc.?
5/ How is morale at TOM? What's the atmosphere like?
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Yes, but the more submitted the better chance you will have of achieving a permanent contract. I am an IFS and more than happy to complete assessments for Temp crew as I know how important they are! Ok I agree on a PMI (767-300) its a bit difficult but if you want the job you must ask, and on a 763 there is more than 1 IFS. Those who dont ask dont get!!
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Just a couple of recruitment questions which if answered would be useful for anyone applying for Thomsonfly.com crew next year;
1/ When does recruitment take place throughout the year? From how early until how late?
2/ What chances do people have of getting their first or second base choice? Are any crews dual-based?
3/ How long are Thomsonfly's training courses? Are you trained on all types within the TOM fleet?
4/ What incentives are there & how good are they? Allowances, language payment, Thomson holidays etc.?
5/ How is morale at TOM? What's the atmosphere like?
1/ When does recruitment take place throughout the year? From how early until how late?
2/ What chances do people have of getting their first or second base choice? Are any crews dual-based?
3/ How long are Thomsonfly's training courses? Are you trained on all types within the TOM fleet?
4/ What incentives are there & how good are they? Allowances, language payment, Thomson holidays etc.?
5/ How is morale at TOM? What's the atmosphere like?
2) I don't know about other people but I got my first base choice. Again it depends on where you go- some large bases such as MAN did not recruit as many initials as others as they have 4th year rejoiners. No crews are dual based.
3) Depending on which base you go to depends on which aircraft you are checked out on. If it is a traditional BY base you are likely to be checked on 737, 757 and 767. If it is a TOM base (dsa, cvt, boh) there is a chance you will only be 737/ 757 checked. The training course for traditional BY bases is about 5 weeks and it is a residential course.
4) Allowances at Tfly are very good at £2.78 per hour and this is for every hour spent away from base so on long haul you can really earn a far bit of money. Discounts on holidays/ flights etc vary depending on contract, what holiday you want and when.
5) Generally morale is fairly positive. There has been some negativity since the change from Britannia to Thomsonfly but with the new long haul product and fairly busy winter programme and a fair few initials getting permanent contracts after their first season morale is picking up and it is definately a very very friendly airline to work for.
Hope this helps
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thomsonfly questions, questions, questions!
i currently work for thomson retail and am wanting to apply for thomsonfly when they start their recruitment campaign for 2007. is there anyone out there who works for them as i have a few questions!!!
is it true that no new starters were taken on at man this summer, and most were left in a holding pool?
what is basic salary (thomas cook and fchoice seems to be around 10k)
what is flight allowance per hour?
what are chances of doing long haul within first year?
what are travel discounts? at the mo i get 10% plus concession voucher (which is a bit rubbish compared to cc)
I am very nosy! ha, just want to compare to other airlines, i have applied for tc, fc, and myt but a friend of a friend works for tfly and says theyre thet highest paid charter airline, is this true????
thanks x
is it true that no new starters were taken on at man this summer, and most were left in a holding pool?
what is basic salary (thomas cook and fchoice seems to be around 10k)
what is flight allowance per hour?
what are chances of doing long haul within first year?
what are travel discounts? at the mo i get 10% plus concession voucher (which is a bit rubbish compared to cc)
I am very nosy! ha, just want to compare to other airlines, i have applied for tc, fc, and myt but a friend of a friend works for tfly and says theyre thet highest paid charter airline, is this true????
thanks x
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Well it depends on what you mean by 'highest paid'?
If you look at basic salary then I think someone like MYT would be highest for charters, but then they have one of lowest hourly pay. If you look at flight pay then yes it's probably TOM or MON or someone.
For new crew the basic is just over 10k + usually a small inflation rise in April time. This then increases every year (for 3 years) you rejoin or are made permanent. So after 4 years you will be at the top of the crew payscale, without being promoted. The increase is usually about Ģ800, so looking at about 13k basic after 4 years.
Flight allowance is Ģ2.78 hour which is from check in time to ten mins after chocks I think. The only difference and money earner is when you are nightstopping away from base, when you are paid from check in until you return to your base, so paid for sleeping in hotel etc!
Providing you are trained on the 767 you can fly longhaul after 3 months with the company I think. Carmen rostering now also means that you can 'bid' for certain flights etc, so you can ask to be rostered longhaul trips, whether you get them or not depends! If you are at one of the biggest bases LGW or MAN you should get a fair share of trips though.
As for discounts I think all new crew are on the new concession scheme, but I doubt this will apply until you are permanent. The new scheme means you can take 6 return flights anywhere with TOM for a nominal price and you get a confirmed seat or not up to 48 hours before. Holiday wise you get a sum of money off TOM holidays which increases every year up to 3 years I think. So depending on the cost of the holiday it would more than likely be more than 10% off.
Hope that all helps if you can understand it, oh and there's some great crew!
If you look at basic salary then I think someone like MYT would be highest for charters, but then they have one of lowest hourly pay. If you look at flight pay then yes it's probably TOM or MON or someone.
For new crew the basic is just over 10k + usually a small inflation rise in April time. This then increases every year (for 3 years) you rejoin or are made permanent. So after 4 years you will be at the top of the crew payscale, without being promoted. The increase is usually about Ģ800, so looking at about 13k basic after 4 years.
Flight allowance is Ģ2.78 hour which is from check in time to ten mins after chocks I think. The only difference and money earner is when you are nightstopping away from base, when you are paid from check in until you return to your base, so paid for sleeping in hotel etc!
Providing you are trained on the 767 you can fly longhaul after 3 months with the company I think. Carmen rostering now also means that you can 'bid' for certain flights etc, so you can ask to be rostered longhaul trips, whether you get them or not depends! If you are at one of the biggest bases LGW or MAN you should get a fair share of trips though.
As for discounts I think all new crew are on the new concession scheme, but I doubt this will apply until you are permanent. The new scheme means you can take 6 return flights anywhere with TOM for a nominal price and you get a confirmed seat or not up to 48 hours before. Holiday wise you get a sum of money off TOM holidays which increases every year up to 3 years I think. So depending on the cost of the holiday it would more than likely be more than 10% off.
Hope that all helps if you can understand it, oh and there's some great crew!
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Assessments....Recognition slips
Assessments twice a month? Is that all? When I worked for them, we got assessed every flight, and if the number one forgot to do one, you were chased up to get him/her to do one on you. Every month you got figures on your performance etc.
It made everyone paranoid, there was a lot of abuse of that system with lazy number ones just ticking boxes and writing standard stuff on the back.
When I got "made up" I did them every flight, but then I took a little more time over them as I had been in the situation before where I worked my ass off and got an average assessment.
A recognition slip was issued as a reward for outstanding service, They were far and few between.
Seems their standards have dropped if they only do 2 assessments a month now.
Teach.
It made everyone paranoid, there was a lot of abuse of that system with lazy number ones just ticking boxes and writing standard stuff on the back.
When I got "made up" I did them every flight, but then I took a little more time over them as I had been in the situation before where I worked my ass off and got an average assessment.
A recognition slip was issued as a reward for outstanding service, They were far and few between.
Seems their standards have dropped if they only do 2 assessments a month now.
Teach.
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Assessments twice a month? Is that all? When I worked for them, we got assessed every flight, and if the number one forgot to do one, you were chased up to get him/her to do one on you. Every month you got figures on your performance etc.
It made everyone paranoid, there was a lot of abuse of that system with lazy number ones just ticking boxes and writing standard stuff on the back.
When I got "made up" I did them every flight, but then I took a little more time over them as I had been in the situation before where I worked my ass off and got an average assessment.
A recognition slip was issued as a reward for outstanding service, They were far and few between.
Seems their standards have dropped if they only do 2 assessments a month now.
Teach.
It made everyone paranoid, there was a lot of abuse of that system with lazy number ones just ticking boxes and writing standard stuff on the back.
When I got "made up" I did them every flight, but then I took a little more time over them as I had been in the situation before where I worked my ass off and got an average assessment.
A recognition slip was issued as a reward for outstanding service, They were far and few between.
Seems their standards have dropped if they only do 2 assessments a month now.
Teach.
The people doing the assessment are more honest and through as they arent doing 5 every time they fly.
Recognition slips are still few and far between.
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ThomsonFly 767
Hi All
We have booked to go longhaul with TFly on the 767 and have paid for extra leg room seats.
A few years ago we flew on another airlines A330 and did the same; unfortunatly, due to the need to put the tray table in the arm rest the IFE controls were attached to the inside of the seat. This would not necessarily have been a problem, however, I have quite wide legs
and the controls stuck out a long way making it very uncomfortable. Ultimatly I swaped to a regular seat which didn't have the extra legroom but at least had the regular width.
Does anyone know if this is a problem on the TFly 767 or have they found another solution?
Many Thanks
We have booked to go longhaul with TFly on the 767 and have paid for extra leg room seats.
A few years ago we flew on another airlines A330 and did the same; unfortunatly, due to the need to put the tray table in the arm rest the IFE controls were attached to the inside of the seat. This would not necessarily have been a problem, however, I have quite wide legs
and the controls stuck out a long way making it very uncomfortable. Ultimatly I swaped to a regular seat which didn't have the extra legroom but at least had the regular width. Does anyone know if this is a problem on the TFly 767 or have they found another solution?
Many Thanks
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At the moment the IFE controls are on top of the armrests on the 767-300
However when the new seats IFE etc are fitted for summer 2007 - the IFE will be PTV's and touch screen controls
However when the new seats IFE etc are fitted for summer 2007 - the IFE will be PTV's and touch screen controls