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Ok ok I know I will be shot down by the negative ones who may not agree with me... but here goes. I don't care.I have been with EY for quite a while now and find it alright
. I came from Aussie airlines too and I must say that in comparison to my old job, this one was a breeze. Yes, there were some hiccups in the early days - but hey, it was very new and that can be expected. I had the same things happen back in my old airline days - and they were/are years old so should have ironed out all the problems!!EY aircraft are nearly all new, the crew are pretty much great and the lifestyle is ok.
That was all before when the salary was not as good as what it will be in the next few months. The base pay has increased as has the duty pay (paid for each day of flying). Crew are now receiving allowances for layovers - effective since start of March - so things are obviously getting better.
The workload was pretty easy in comparison to what I was used to in my previous airline/s. But that may change - who has that crystal ball? As the company grows - the workload will no doubt change a bit - fact of life
.Friends of mine work for EK and if you think that they have it so much better - then you are horribly mistaken!! Sorry to say. (And I am not trying to put down EK in this statement
) It is just a fact of life. Eveywhere is the same and it is what you make of it... so for those of you who are considering - it is up to you...no different if you were changing any job. Remember, EY is only a newer airline - stop comparing it to EK or the others - they have been running for years - and STILL have problems
!! Compare apples to apples as the saying goes.Salary compared for Australians is not bad - you have no transport costs, no rent, no utilities to pay for cost of living can be cheaper depending on what you want
. So what you earn is for you to spend... after living in Aust, I find it no harder.
I remember spending $80 dollars filling up my car with petrol each week - cetainly a thing of the past for me here!!
And I have had the advantage of seeing the world and experiencing a different life for a while.
I have been able to pay off a mortgage and live alright on the old salary - so the new one will be even better now!!
I will be staying for some time yet, I have my life set up here for now and I know the grass is not always greener on the other side. Yes, there a few little things that still need straightening out - but on a day to day basis - everything is acceptable and easy enough to deal with...
Don't let others who may have had a bad experience sour your opinion... there are lots of staff working for EY. On here, you may only read from a few......and yes, everyone has different opinions.So this is mine, that's all.
Let the barrage of insults start now!
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Thank you Mike16
Thanks for your nice words too MIke16. It is nice to have good feedback and acknowledgement of the crews' hard work too -
If others are really interested, may I suggest checking out the comments on Sktrax.
www.airlinequality.com.
Then you can make a judgement for yourself.
If others are really interested, may I suggest checking out the comments on Sktrax.
www.airlinequality.com.
Then you can make a judgement for yourself.
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Hi to all,
thank you so much for your responses, you have all really made me feel at ease about the whole accommodation thing and with the wages going up that sounds pretty reasonable too!!!
I'm so excited and can't wait for 2nd April. I have never been to an EY interview process before so it's all going to be a great experience and I'm sure I'll just run on adrenaline for the day. If anyone has some tips on how the day runs and what goes on that would be fantastic.
I really hope I get through the process and can join you all over there in AUH.
Can you tell me how long does the training go for and how long after that are you flying?
Thank again so much guys
Tanya
thank you so much for your responses, you have all really made me feel at ease about the whole accommodation thing and with the wages going up that sounds pretty reasonable too!!!
I'm so excited and can't wait for 2nd April. I have never been to an EY interview process before so it's all going to be a great experience and I'm sure I'll just run on adrenaline for the day. If anyone has some tips on how the day runs and what goes on that would be fantastic.
I really hope I get through the process and can join you all over there in AUH.
Can you tell me how long does the training go for and how long after that are you flying?
Thank again so much guys
Tanya
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OK, lets start :-)
Andyman_82 – yes, we do get stuff travel on EK,QR,BA,LH, etc. Not sure for QF but u can use EK, and EY as well, if u r planning to travel to Oz. ;-)
FLEEBOI - With the new salary scheme (fully implemented till the end of 2007) I think u can expect around 15 000 AED as a cabin manager (if u fly full month, but many CMs don’t)
TanyaD – if u r after EK, u can try while still employed with EY. No ban between these 2 carriers at the moment, and many crew just did that in previous months (years).
There is only one ex-Gulf Air building beeing used for EY crew (no. 11) and it is really bad. Accomodation here is a kind of mixed bag. U can get excellent flat, but u can end up with bad one as well. New buildings are very nice, huge flats, pool and gym (only 2 buildings at the moment). Can’t tell u if this (pool and gym) is going to be a standard for other new buildings.
Speaking about old flats, it depends who lived in it before. It can be nice but it can be bad too. EY at the moment doesn’t have policy of cleaning and refurbishing old flats when someone resigns. (like in EK)
The training is around 8 weeks, I think, not 100% sure. After that u might get 2-3 days off, and than off u go! There is another website where u can get more info on new recruitment process. PM me, and will let u know.
As for the pay, with the allowances we finally got, as a crew in economy class, u can expect (at the moment) around 9000 AED, tax free (around 3100 AUD).
The new salary package will be fully implemented till the end of 2007 and it will be very competitive to the one EK has.
Tashal_bb – do not leave QF!!! Many of my friends work for QF and when I heard your conditions, I was amazed when I saw that some of QF crew want to come and work either for EY or EK.
HoHum – the basic salary hasn’t been increased yet, neither duty pay. It’s only on the paper we all got. At the moment we got allowances.
As for the workload, some flights r easy, but most of them r full these days.
As for the EK-EY comparison, when EY turns 25 years, some people will still say “it’s a new airline, it’s normal to have same problems we had when we were 3 years old”
Andyman_82 – yes, we do get stuff travel on EK,QR,BA,LH, etc. Not sure for QF but u can use EK, and EY as well, if u r planning to travel to Oz. ;-)
FLEEBOI - With the new salary scheme (fully implemented till the end of 2007) I think u can expect around 15 000 AED as a cabin manager (if u fly full month, but many CMs don’t)
TanyaD – if u r after EK, u can try while still employed with EY. No ban between these 2 carriers at the moment, and many crew just did that in previous months (years).
There is only one ex-Gulf Air building beeing used for EY crew (no. 11) and it is really bad. Accomodation here is a kind of mixed bag. U can get excellent flat, but u can end up with bad one as well. New buildings are very nice, huge flats, pool and gym (only 2 buildings at the moment). Can’t tell u if this (pool and gym) is going to be a standard for other new buildings.
Speaking about old flats, it depends who lived in it before. It can be nice but it can be bad too. EY at the moment doesn’t have policy of cleaning and refurbishing old flats when someone resigns. (like in EK)
The training is around 8 weeks, I think, not 100% sure. After that u might get 2-3 days off, and than off u go! There is another website where u can get more info on new recruitment process. PM me, and will let u know.
As for the pay, with the allowances we finally got, as a crew in economy class, u can expect (at the moment) around 9000 AED, tax free (around 3100 AUD).
The new salary package will be fully implemented till the end of 2007 and it will be very competitive to the one EK has.
Tashal_bb – do not leave QF!!! Many of my friends work for QF and when I heard your conditions, I was amazed when I saw that some of QF crew want to come and work either for EY or EK.
HoHum – the basic salary hasn’t been increased yet, neither duty pay. It’s only on the paper we all got. At the moment we got allowances.
As for the workload, some flights r easy, but most of them r full these days.
As for the EK-EY comparison, when EY turns 25 years, some people will still say “it’s a new airline, it’s normal to have same problems we had when we were 3 years old”
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EYTRUTH - Qantas is made up of lots of small companies that make up the cabin crew, these include australian airlines and jetconnect.
The australian airlines and jetconnect crews dont enjoy the same conditions that Qantas mainline fulltimers do. We dont even get the same staff travel. Then there are the MAM casuals who dont get any staff travel at all. Duty hour limitations are different as are rest periods. And so on.. I mean hey! some of us cant even be based in aus to fly full time on Qantas aircraft.
If your friends are full time Aus based, then im afraid the days of anyone else getting employed under those conditions are over, if they are UK based then they are on a completely different contract again which doesnt compare with AOs or Jetconnects.
The australian airlines and jetconnect crews dont enjoy the same conditions that Qantas mainline fulltimers do. We dont even get the same staff travel. Then there are the MAM casuals who dont get any staff travel at all. Duty hour limitations are different as are rest periods. And so on.. I mean hey! some of us cant even be based in aus to fly full time on Qantas aircraft.
If your friends are full time Aus based, then im afraid the days of anyone else getting employed under those conditions are over, if they are UK based then they are on a completely different contract again which doesnt compare with AOs or Jetconnects.
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So right
SEBBY - You are so correct in your comments - but unfortuantely the people on here say "... oh I know someone......" but these people (making the comment on behalf of the person they know) have not themselves necessarily worked for the QF group to know the internal structure. They therefore can make misinformed interpretations about how "good" QF crew have it.
And they are not aware how QF is trying to change the conditions (ie Short haul crew doing L/Haul flights, JQ taking over many S/Haul routes etc etc) As you say the conditions that any "OLD" QF crew had are quickly deteriorating.
EYTRUTH - By checking our staff travel website, you would find a list of all the carriers who we can fly, and yes, QF is one of them. Its why we also have BA (they are part of One World ).
Also, I can undersand partially, your comment "As for the EK-EY comparison, when EY turns 25 years, some people will still say “it’s a new airline, it’s normal to have same problems we had when we were 3 years old”, but really? People would at least be able to work out for themselves that this would not be a valid argument. But at this time given EY's age in the industry, I feel it is a fair comment.....in a few years though, I would agree we could no longer use this as any form of excuse.
As I said, I worked for one which was very established and they tried that excuse - but we really knew that it was a crap statement and no longer valid....
The staff salaries are starting to increase - CM's will recieve them in the next salary (Duty pay and Base) and the other increases will follow throughout the next few months down the line. So your comment about it not being implemented yet, leaves me a little perplexed...... As you said - it is all there in black and white.. And yes, it is very good compared to the EK package.
Yes, our loads are starting to build on our flights and that is a GOOD thing to ensure we still have a job at the end of the day - we are building up our company...that is what all airlines aim for.....I can guarantee you that EK don't run around with empty flights either....
Staff training is 6 weeks in total too for those who are interested....
And they are not aware how QF is trying to change the conditions (ie Short haul crew doing L/Haul flights, JQ taking over many S/Haul routes etc etc) As you say the conditions that any "OLD" QF crew had are quickly deteriorating. EYTRUTH - By checking our staff travel website, you would find a list of all the carriers who we can fly, and yes, QF is one of them.
Its why we also have BA (they are part of One World ).Also, I can undersand partially, your comment "As for the EK-EY comparison, when EY turns 25 years, some people will still say “it’s a new airline, it’s normal to have same problems we had when we were 3 years old”, but really?
People would at least be able to work out for themselves that this would not be a valid argument. But at this time given EY's age in the industry, I feel it is a fair comment.....in a few years though, I would agree we could no longer use this as any form of excuse. As I said, I worked for one which was very established and they tried that excuse - but we really knew that it was a crap statement and no longer valid....
The staff salaries are starting to increase - CM's will recieve them in the next salary (Duty pay and Base) and the other increases will follow throughout the next few months down the line. So your comment about it not being implemented yet, leaves me a little perplexed......
As you said - it is all there in black and white.. And yes, it is very good compared to the EK package. Yes, our loads are starting to build on our flights and that is a GOOD
thing to ensure we still have a job at the end of the day - we are building up our company...that is what all airlines aim for.....I can guarantee you that EK don't run around with empty flights either....Staff training is 6 weeks in total too for those who are interested....
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Anyone going for the PER assessment day? I got my invite - I been to one assessment day approx 2 years ago and flunked - LOL I am thinking whether I should go for another one. Anyone attending the PER one, pls PM me - May I tag along :P
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I am thinking whether I should go for another one. Anyone attending the PER one, pls PM me - May I tag along :PToodles
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Does anyone have the EY HUMAN RESOURCES NUMBER?
They gave it to me when they called me to invite me ot hte interview for UAE but i tried calling and i get invalid number. I need to call them because they havent sent me the email for the invitation and I want to know what to bring and what time to turn up.
Please anyone that can help let me know
andy
They gave it to me when they called me to invite me ot hte interview for UAE but i tried calling and i get invalid number. I need to call them because they havent sent me the email for the invitation and I want to know what to bring and what time to turn up.
Please anyone that can help let me know
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Andyman_82, as for the accomodation just check the post above I wrote.
Your roster is a mix of layovers and turnarounds. Sometimes u will have more layovers, sometimes u will have more turnarounds, no precise rules, lol.
The fact is our long layovers r getting shorter and shorter :-( as we r increasing the flights to our destinations. Most of them r 24hr layover but still we have nice ones (GVA- almost 3 days, BRU-48hrs, YYZ-48hrs, KUL-48hrs, SYD-almost 3 days, etc) Some of these I mentioned r getting shorter
(KUL, SYD)
So far, most of the time when we introduce a new destination, layovers r nice. NYC is 24 hrs .... only
HoHum, when I wrote "implemented" I thought "fully operational". So, everything that is mentioned on the memo we all got, we will have till the end of 2007. CMs increase is coming in april or may, and for the crew in june. As for the Cabin Senior, Diamond and Pearl Zone Crew it all depends on how fast we can recruit 1000 people more.
Your roster is a mix of layovers and turnarounds. Sometimes u will have more layovers, sometimes u will have more turnarounds, no precise rules, lol.
The fact is our long layovers r getting shorter and shorter :-( as we r increasing the flights to our destinations. Most of them r 24hr layover but still we have nice ones (GVA- almost 3 days, BRU-48hrs, YYZ-48hrs, KUL-48hrs, SYD-almost 3 days, etc) Some of these I mentioned r getting shorter
(KUL, SYD) So far, most of the time when we introduce a new destination, layovers r nice. NYC is 24 hrs .... only
HoHum, when I wrote "implemented" I thought "fully operational". So, everything that is mentioned on the memo we all got, we will have till the end of 2007. CMs increase is coming in april or may, and for the crew in june. As for the Cabin Senior, Diamond and Pearl Zone Crew it all depends on how fast we can recruit 1000 people more.
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Hi all
Just want to say all of your posts have been so helpful in helping me make my mind up about going for EY. I have my assessment day on Monday (19th) at LGW and I'm quite confident that I know as much as I can possibly know this stage about what I'm letting myself in for. Hehe
I know there is always good and bad points about working for any company - and I've experienced a lot of each in my career so far. But you take the rough with the smooth and keep in mind that after all is said and done it is your job and it is what you make of it. Everyday of your life isn't going to be some magnificent triumph of excitement, that's life. But as far as I can gather, it seems like a pretty decent airline to work for. When the pay increase gets rolled out it's quite an atractive package for whatever amount of work you end up doing. Mainly because you're based in a beautiful and exciting part of the world. No more walking up to days of drizzle and miserable windy cold days. Now surely that alone is enough for anyone to jump at the chance!
Well good luck and God bless everyone. I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed for anyone interviewing as well as myself :o)
Let's watch this space.
Just want to say all of your posts have been so helpful in helping me make my mind up about going for EY. I have my assessment day on Monday (19th) at LGW and I'm quite confident that I know as much as I can possibly know this stage about what I'm letting myself in for. Hehe
I know there is always good and bad points about working for any company - and I've experienced a lot of each in my career so far. But you take the rough with the smooth and keep in mind that after all is said and done it is your job and it is what you make of it. Everyday of your life isn't going to be some magnificent triumph of excitement, that's life. But as far as I can gather, it seems like a pretty decent airline to work for. When the pay increase gets rolled out it's quite an atractive package for whatever amount of work you end up doing. Mainly because you're based in a beautiful and exciting part of the world. No more walking up to days of drizzle and miserable windy cold days. Now surely that alone is enough for anyone to jump at the chance!
Well good luck and God bless everyone. I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed for anyone interviewing as well as myself :o)
Let's watch this space.
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and another thing...
...the mens uniform is a dream! hehe
Without being cheeky, if anyone would have any last minute interview tips, that would be most kind and greatly appreciated!
All advice is welcome :o)
Enjoy your weekends ...
Without being cheeky, if anyone would have any last minute interview tips, that would be most kind and greatly appreciated!
All advice is welcome :o)
Enjoy your weekends ...
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EYtruth, well... i must say the conditions that we have now its not as good as 10 yrs ago. i been working for this company for 4 yrs... and the pay is almost the same w/ EY, but on top of that we have to pay rent, car, petrols...etc... i will go to the assessment day, if i get the offer i will really think about it. EY sounds a really good company to work for things are getting better after 4 yrs operations... but with us things are getting worst and worst.... They sacked a 57 yo FA (32 yrs of flying) last year cos he took 10 chocolates from the a/c.
sebby, i must say our staff travel is getting better and better. at least we can travel interline now.
Bla_Bla, yeah i do know...but the thing is... we are still hanging there and duno what QF wanna do to us... so i have to seek other opportunities
HoHum, thx for ur info. it makes me really wanna go to EY now.
EYs uniform are really nice sick of the morrisey already
Anybody going on the 22/3 in SYD?
sebby, i must say our staff travel is getting better and better. at least we can travel interline now.
Bla_Bla, yeah i do know...but the thing is... we are still hanging there and duno what QF wanna do to us... so i have to seek other opportunities
HoHum, thx for ur info. it makes me really wanna go to EY now.
EYs uniform are really nice
sick of the morrisey already Anybody going on the 22/3 in SYD?
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I know that the minimum age is 20 years old to apply but would it be possible to apply when I'm 19 closing into the age of 20? I know some airlines will let you be younger then the age requirement but you have to be at that certain age by the time of graduation from training. Is this the case at Etihad? Anyone current crew have anyone younger then 20 in their training class?
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STESTE, just wanted to say best of luck on the 19th. I'm sure you'll be fantastic.
Go in with confidence and tell them just how wonderful you are !!! You'll be great I'm sure.
Thank you to everyone who is helping all of us newbies try and get through the interview process, I appreciate it so much and cannot thank you enough.
Take care
Tanya
Go in with confidence and tell them just how wonderful you are !!! You'll be great I'm sure.
Thank you to everyone who is helping all of us newbies try and get through the interview process, I appreciate it so much and cannot thank you enough.
Take care
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One more sleep to go!
TANYA D Thanks a million - the same goes to you! Best of British and if we both get through I'll keep my eyes peeled for you in Abu Dhabi.
Not long to go for us all until D-Day, so best of luck to everyone going for EY, I'll post on here to let you know how I fair tomorrow....bit nervous but mainly excited. Let me know how you get on too! Our paths will cross I'm sure.
Have a great time and as we say in Wales - Pob Lwc!
PS. Something to get us newbies in the mood - it's a bit corny but it's sweet nonetheless...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r67tnDvzevw
and if we both get through I'll keep my eyes peeled for you in Abu Dhabi.Not long to go for us all until D-Day, so best of luck to everyone going for EY, I'll post on here to let you know how I fair tomorrow....bit nervous but mainly excited. Let me know how you get on too! Our paths will cross I'm sure.
Have a great time and as we say in Wales - Pob Lwc!
PS. Something to get us newbies in the mood - it's a bit corny but it's sweet nonetheless...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r67tnDvzevw
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beeing gay in AUH
hey guys... could one of u guys that have lived ( or live ) in AUH tell me whats like for homossexuals working for an airline in the UAE ???
im currentlly flying and we all now that in this industry there are a lot of gay people ( is it the same in AUH - EY ?).
just wanna have an idea, cause a friend of mine told em that homossexuality is a big NO NO NO in the UAE ?
many thks ...
im currentlly flying and we all now that in this industry there are a lot of gay people ( is it the same in AUH - EY ?).
just wanna have an idea, cause a friend of mine told em that homossexuality is a big NO NO NO in the UAE ?
many thks ...