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Perhaps part of the problem, FCOLover22 (welcome to the company, by the way!) is that there really is very, very little time to do anything on our "nightstop" trips.
I'm Ex Gatwick, as is Paddy, and the Orlandos (Ruby Tuesdays) and Tampas (Blue Martini) that you've highlighted really offer very little opportunity to do anything in the evening after arrival other than have a nice drink and socialise with your colleagues.
Might I ask, without any intention of sounding rude, whether you're British? We Brits love a drink. It's our way of socialising and dropping barriers. The Brits are also a very kinda un-welcoming people (sounds a lot worse than I mean). I mean that we all have our groups of friends and we're happy with them and perhaps make little effort to broaden said group. But, given a couple of drinks (not to the stage of drunkeness), the whole world is our friend!
It's just a cultural difference that we have to deal with at British Airways perhaps more than at any other airline.
We have more nationalities of people working for us than any of the other "legacy" carriers in the world (other than maybe the Middle Easterns, but I wouldn't really call them "legacy" carriers). Every trip I go on, I'm first in the bar with the intention of being last out. I drink moderately, sensibly and ensure that I'm fit for work the next day - but at the same time I have an absolutely great time with my colleagues.
Upon arriving for pickup the next day, I'll speak to my Italian or French colleagues on the flight (not saying that NONE of them come for a brewski, it's just the Europeans tend to come out far less than the Brits) and hear stories of how they've sat in their rooms watching telly for the past 24 hours. The rest of the crew will have built up a great rapport and will have to work extra hard to ensure that those who didn't go out for a drink don't feel left out of the new "clique" that's forming.
The four day TPAs at Gatwick are fantastic! Of course, there's drinking to be done. A night out on the day off with dinner and drinks at The Green Iguana is fantastic, but before that a day at Busch Gardens is a MUST! The only socialising that we do at BA isn't drinking. Granted, a lot of it is, but that's not because that's all we WANT to do, it's because that's all there's time for.
I'm Ex Gatwick, as is Paddy, and the Orlandos (Ruby Tuesdays) and Tampas (Blue Martini) that you've highlighted really offer very little opportunity to do anything in the evening after arrival other than have a nice drink and socialise with your colleagues.
Might I ask, without any intention of sounding rude, whether you're British? We Brits love a drink. It's our way of socialising and dropping barriers. The Brits are also a very kinda un-welcoming people (sounds a lot worse than I mean). I mean that we all have our groups of friends and we're happy with them and perhaps make little effort to broaden said group. But, given a couple of drinks (not to the stage of drunkeness), the whole world is our friend!
It's just a cultural difference that we have to deal with at British Airways perhaps more than at any other airline.
We have more nationalities of people working for us than any of the other "legacy" carriers in the world (other than maybe the Middle Easterns, but I wouldn't really call them "legacy" carriers). Every trip I go on, I'm first in the bar with the intention of being last out. I drink moderately, sensibly and ensure that I'm fit for work the next day - but at the same time I have an absolutely great time with my colleagues.
Upon arriving for pickup the next day, I'll speak to my Italian or French colleagues on the flight (not saying that NONE of them come for a brewski, it's just the Europeans tend to come out far less than the Brits) and hear stories of how they've sat in their rooms watching telly for the past 24 hours. The rest of the crew will have built up a great rapport and will have to work extra hard to ensure that those who didn't go out for a drink don't feel left out of the new "clique" that's forming.
The four day TPAs at Gatwick are fantastic! Of course, there's drinking to be done. A night out on the day off with dinner and drinks at The Green Iguana is fantastic, but before that a day at Busch Gardens is a MUST! The only socialising that we do at BA isn't drinking. Granted, a lot of it is, but that's not because that's all we WANT to do, it's because that's all there's time for.
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FCO, Im sorry but when someone says comments like "im sorry ti say so but most crew are bunch of sorry asses" it really sends out alarm bells, indeed, you do not cast ALL crew off just "most"!!! This is very inappropriate! But at least you admit that this is simply your opinion down to your culture and religious convictions, so therefore it is entirely your opinion and not the opinion of most of the good poeple you work with. However, I am sure that your religious convictions (not that I really want to go down that path...yawn) would condem you for speaking in such a manner towards your fellow humans.
But perhaps I should mention that some of the poeple I have witnessed making "asses" of themselves have been your own country folk! But fortunately this is few and far between that I witness anyone doing this. Loutish behavious is not to be encouraged and I dont believe it is in ba. Like Eddy said, drinking is a very important part of not just british and irish culture but pretty much most places in the northern half of europe including the germans, dutch, belgians and scandanavians.
The reason why crew seemed more cultural and less likely to go and have a few drinks in QR was simply the fear factor associated with getting caught by someone in the company with more than a beer in you! Im sure given half the chance the crew would be out enjoying themselves just as much as BA crew.One thing I distinctly remember about QR was never seeing crew down route as they were off into their rooms with their hotplates making noodles for the duration of a 10 day KUL or 5 day KTM.
But perhaps I should mention that some of the poeple I have witnessed making "asses" of themselves have been your own country folk! But fortunately this is few and far between that I witness anyone doing this. Loutish behavious is not to be encouraged and I dont believe it is in ba. Like Eddy said, drinking is a very important part of not just british and irish culture but pretty much most places in the northern half of europe including the germans, dutch, belgians and scandanavians.
The reason why crew seemed more cultural and less likely to go and have a few drinks in QR was simply the fear factor associated with getting caught by someone in the company with more than a beer in you! Im sure given half the chance the crew would be out enjoying themselves just as much as BA crew.One thing I distinctly remember about QR was never seeing crew down route as they were off into their rooms with their hotplates making noodles for the duration of a 10 day KUL or 5 day KTM.
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ok, i admit to paddy that i should have rephrased the "im sorry ti say so but most crew are bunch of sorry asses"...for that i apologise but...the points i made were happening in the flights i did, not all but 60% of them if i may put in in the most approximate percentage!
(not that you wanna go down that path..yawn) now thats not very nice either....but anyway everyone is entitled to believe or not in whatever they want....
paddy:'I am sure that your religious convictions would condem you for speaking in such a manner towards your fellow humans.' yes and no.....because when u see something is wrong you are allowed to voice your opinion especially when what you've said goes according to the written religious following...in my books anyway....it's not disrespect or blasphemy to talk about it or point it out...because int he end it is the doers choice...it was only my oopinion....the only thing thats isnt allowed is to judge without looking at one's self first....
Paddy, i am not going to be an hypocrite, i am honest on what i said, i am not perfect either, though i try to do my best i err as others do and if i have said something that you disagree on, i didnt mean to offend you, i only based myself on my experiences, not on others'. I am glad you have experienced otherwise but then again you like most things as other crew cause you come from the same culture...i am sorry that all my convictions make me out of place to go and mingke too long soetimes with certain crew who piss their heads out, though i admit, and im sorry for comments before, that not everyone is the same!
"But perhaps I should mention that some of the poeple I have witnessed making "asses" of themselves have been your own country folk!"
im not gonna say that my poeple are perfect, because they're not but if we gonna put it this way then the percentage of binge drinkers and people who go off their heads is higher in UK than southern europe....where we may drink too much wine while eating thout, in UK or other north European countries they Binge drink mixing all without most of the time not putting food in their mouth or just small snacks that due to saltiness bring on more drinking....
I would like to put this drinking subject aside, hope that my admittal to wrong phrasing appeases some of the offence u may have taken....but as i say its only my opinion or experiences that have contributed to those comments....
''The reason why crew seemed more cultural and less likely to go and have a few drinks in QR was simply the fear factor associated with getting caught by someone in the company with more than a beer in you! Im sure given half the chance the crew would be out enjoying themselves just as much as BA crew.''
I disagree with that in the sense that if the layover was long enough noone could say that you werent allowed to drink outstations, fear of what? nothing in black and white to say you couldnt and even if there was crew would do it anyway....i had great layovers of which i have evidence of in 6 cd's full of photos and videos and i can say i havent had that chance here because crew just wanna sit by the pool and nothing more...ok i understand some of them have been there and done it, but there is always something new, if not at least a new restaurant to go to....
"One thing I distinctly remember about QR was never seeing crew down route as they were off into their rooms with their hotplates making noodles for the duration of a 10 day KUL or 5 day KTM. "
yes this is true but who used to do that??? the Phillipino crew and some indian sub cont crew....others and those i went out with went out....i had 12 trips to ktm in a year and every trip i did something new, in kl or singapore we used to get together if notjust three or five crew and do staff, even wnet to kl once on a bus that took 6 hours.... so though some of your last statement is true it wasnt the same with all crew.....and to end this i admit also once again that it is not all BA crew also that drink and dont go out ....so i hope thats cleared what i said and i apologise if my wording offended you....or anyone else for the matter. thanks
P.S. The main thing is that in my own way i m enjoying my flying now, i always do something downroute and if nothing else go with the crew to eat something out at least and do some recreational club activities or other things...
(not that you wanna go down that path..yawn) now thats not very nice either....but anyway everyone is entitled to believe or not in whatever they want....
paddy:'I am sure that your religious convictions would condem you for speaking in such a manner towards your fellow humans.' yes and no.....because when u see something is wrong you are allowed to voice your opinion especially when what you've said goes according to the written religious following...in my books anyway....it's not disrespect or blasphemy to talk about it or point it out...because int he end it is the doers choice...it was only my oopinion....the only thing thats isnt allowed is to judge without looking at one's self first....
Paddy, i am not going to be an hypocrite, i am honest on what i said, i am not perfect either, though i try to do my best i err as others do and if i have said something that you disagree on, i didnt mean to offend you, i only based myself on my experiences, not on others'. I am glad you have experienced otherwise but then again you like most things as other crew cause you come from the same culture...i am sorry that all my convictions make me out of place to go and mingke too long soetimes with certain crew who piss their heads out, though i admit, and im sorry for comments before, that not everyone is the same!
"But perhaps I should mention that some of the poeple I have witnessed making "asses" of themselves have been your own country folk!"
im not gonna say that my poeple are perfect, because they're not but if we gonna put it this way then the percentage of binge drinkers and people who go off their heads is higher in UK than southern europe....where we may drink too much wine while eating thout, in UK or other north European countries they Binge drink mixing all without most of the time not putting food in their mouth or just small snacks that due to saltiness bring on more drinking....
I would like to put this drinking subject aside, hope that my admittal to wrong phrasing appeases some of the offence u may have taken....but as i say its only my opinion or experiences that have contributed to those comments....
''The reason why crew seemed more cultural and less likely to go and have a few drinks in QR was simply the fear factor associated with getting caught by someone in the company with more than a beer in you! Im sure given half the chance the crew would be out enjoying themselves just as much as BA crew.''
I disagree with that in the sense that if the layover was long enough noone could say that you werent allowed to drink outstations, fear of what? nothing in black and white to say you couldnt and even if there was crew would do it anyway....i had great layovers of which i have evidence of in 6 cd's full of photos and videos and i can say i havent had that chance here because crew just wanna sit by the pool and nothing more...ok i understand some of them have been there and done it, but there is always something new, if not at least a new restaurant to go to....
"One thing I distinctly remember about QR was never seeing crew down route as they were off into their rooms with their hotplates making noodles for the duration of a 10 day KUL or 5 day KTM. "
yes this is true but who used to do that??? the Phillipino crew and some indian sub cont crew....others and those i went out with went out....i had 12 trips to ktm in a year and every trip i did something new, in kl or singapore we used to get together if notjust three or five crew and do staff, even wnet to kl once on a bus that took 6 hours.... so though some of your last statement is true it wasnt the same with all crew.....and to end this i admit also once again that it is not all BA crew also that drink and dont go out ....so i hope thats cleared what i said and i apologise if my wording offended you....or anyone else for the matter. thanks
P.S. The main thing is that in my own way i m enjoying my flying now, i always do something downroute and if nothing else go with the crew to eat something out at least and do some recreational club activities or other things...
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Chewie if you feel BA is not for you then you should leave. If your unhappy then all the money and conditions won't make any difference. I know there are lots of older crew at BA but I've never seen a crew just of oldies! And I have to say that most oldies I know can drink and party me under the table and I'm a YOUNG 37.
BUT you should consider very carefully what your leaving. Say you join Easy,bmi or virgin. Or go down the charter road think what life will be like. You say that 12 hrs is still long enough on a nightstop to party. What you fail to realise that min rest in one of these companies will be more like 10 hours, at an airport hotel far from the "action". By the time you get to the hotel you'll have done 4 sectors maybe 4 and pax if its bmi... you'll be absolutely knackered and just want your bed. If you do find some crew to party you'll probably just end up in a room party because everyone needs their allowances just to pay their rent. Cabs into town and drinks at trendy bars are definately luxury's you won't be able to afford. Thats if you get a nightstop at all.
After a few years of being with young crew and done your partying you'll probably want to get your own place maybe settle down and even have kids!!!!!! then your crappy salary and long hours might not be so attractive.
Think long and hard.
If you still want to leave consider LGW as it is a fun base and the one fleet will probably be a good mix of flying. Or try Monarch or Thomsonfly. Charter is good fun with mostly 2 sector or longhaul trips. The money is better than non- BA scheduled airlines and the crew are mostly good fun. But you'll work much harder onboard.
Sometimes I think all crew should do a couple of years with another airline before joining BA so that they appreciate it.... but remember there is no such thing as a perfect airline but BA is as good as it gets.
Don't be unhappy but don't make any rash decisions.
BUT you should consider very carefully what your leaving. Say you join Easy,bmi or virgin. Or go down the charter road think what life will be like. You say that 12 hrs is still long enough on a nightstop to party. What you fail to realise that min rest in one of these companies will be more like 10 hours, at an airport hotel far from the "action". By the time you get to the hotel you'll have done 4 sectors maybe 4 and pax if its bmi... you'll be absolutely knackered and just want your bed. If you do find some crew to party you'll probably just end up in a room party because everyone needs their allowances just to pay their rent. Cabs into town and drinks at trendy bars are definately luxury's you won't be able to afford. Thats if you get a nightstop at all.
After a few years of being with young crew and done your partying you'll probably want to get your own place maybe settle down and even have kids!!!!!! then your crappy salary and long hours might not be so attractive.
Think long and hard.
If you still want to leave consider LGW as it is a fun base and the one fleet will probably be a good mix of flying. Or try Monarch or Thomsonfly. Charter is good fun with mostly 2 sector or longhaul trips. The money is better than non- BA scheduled airlines and the crew are mostly good fun. But you'll work much harder onboard.
Sometimes I think all crew should do a couple of years with another airline before joining BA so that they appreciate it.... but remember there is no such thing as a perfect airline but BA is as good as it gets.
Don't be unhappy but don't make any rash decisions.
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Oh FCOLOVER, I am not even going to go there anymore, fortunately I am sure most people on this have the sense to disregard your comments. I just suggest you try being more tolerant and open your mind ever so slightly. You are niave to think that this sort of behaviour is unique to BA!
And anyways, this post by Chewie is about him not finding enough people to go out and get rat arsed with so it sort of contradicts what your saying!
And anyways, this post by Chewie is about him not finding enough people to go out and get rat arsed with so it sort of contradicts what your saying!
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Aaah, just had a quick look at this thread and realised it's been mistitled-should be "the bash Chewy thread!".
Chewy, if you can afford to take a pay cut and you just want to have fun and see some great places, come to Virgin-you do of course still get moaners and "Delsey Diners" but I find that every trip at least a couple of crew will be up for doing something interesting!
One thing to bear in mind, are you sure it's not just a January/February thing you've got going on?? I tend to hate all forms of work at this time of year!!!!!!
Chewy, if you can afford to take a pay cut and you just want to have fun and see some great places, come to Virgin-you do of course still get moaners and "Delsey Diners" but I find that every trip at least a couple of crew will be up for doing something interesting!
One thing to bear in mind, are you sure it's not just a January/February thing you've got going on?? I tend to hate all forms of work at this time of year!!!!!!
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Chewy,maybe this job just isn't the right one for you.If you leave BA, as someone else said earlier in the thread,it could be ''out of the frying pan into the fire''.Maybe you ought to consider going back to your previous job or trying something completely different.Flying is not everyones cup of tea for lots of different reasons.
I have to agree with you about eurofleet LHR but from a different angle.I've been flyng for well over 20 years and am not that far off 50.I'm a purser on E/F and have to say that very often on my 2 and 3 day trips I am usually the one who wants to go out for a drink/bite to eat or just a quick coffee and I really do have my work cut out for me trying to persuade any of the crew to join me.On the whole the crew I fly with these days are in their 20's and they seldom want to leave their hotel rooms(and before anyone says anything it's not me.I'm a very nice person.)I believe that the root of the problem is money.I think since the introduction of the new contract and the lower basic that goes with it I can see that the allowance element of our pay has become much more important to people on the new contract and hence their reluctance to spend too much.I can understand the rationale behind it,after all we all come to work to earn money,but why waste your time flying to some fabulous places only to spend time in a hotel room.
So yes Chewy I do agree with you to a degree but find the younger crew less likely to go out than the older crew.
I do wish you luck though and hope you make the right choice
I have to agree with you about eurofleet LHR but from a different angle.I've been flyng for well over 20 years and am not that far off 50.I'm a purser on E/F and have to say that very often on my 2 and 3 day trips I am usually the one who wants to go out for a drink/bite to eat or just a quick coffee and I really do have my work cut out for me trying to persuade any of the crew to join me.On the whole the crew I fly with these days are in their 20's and they seldom want to leave their hotel rooms(and before anyone says anything it's not me.I'm a very nice person.)I believe that the root of the problem is money.I think since the introduction of the new contract and the lower basic that goes with it I can see that the allowance element of our pay has become much more important to people on the new contract and hence their reluctance to spend too much.I can understand the rationale behind it,after all we all come to work to earn money,but why waste your time flying to some fabulous places only to spend time in a hotel room.
So yes Chewy I do agree with you to a degree but find the younger crew less likely to go out than the older crew.
I do wish you luck though and hope you make the right choice
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Chewy if that's how you feel about your current job I think you should definitely have a change. Whether it's BA or not, if you're unhappy why put up with all of that? I believe there could be lots of 9-5 jobs you might find interesting which could give you the social life you crave for.
I am sorry to say this, but when I joined BA it was my 3rd airline and, starting from the training course I could see the difference between those ppl who were at their 1st experience and myself/other few, who had seen it all before and maybe more than once.
They were taking it as a holiday, they ended up living together (8 of them in 2 houses) and were meeting up every night, had barbecues on days off etc.
I was soooo not part of that, not because I don't like socializing, but because at the end of the day I had other things in my life already which took priority over "having fun" with the same ppl outside work.
I knew it wouldn't last anyway, in fact I believe after a while they couldn't wait for the 6months rent contract to expire!!! At the end of the day, work is work.....and it would all be too perfect if your colleagues were also your best friends.... (because life is just that kind!!!)
I believe I have a good balance between work and friends now, and when I am on those nice trips (one out to GVA/MUC/EDI/BLQ/MRS) I really enjoy going skiing, walking, out for lunch/dinner and maybe see some concerts or films with the crew,or maybe make a fool of myself on the ice ring etc. But when I am on min. rest on a two day six sector trip and I know the next day it's a long one, I actually enjoy the time when I am on my own and I can do absolutely NOTHING without feeling guilty!!
Whatever happens, in ANY airline you'll always find those who want to get out and see things, and those who don't. Charter isn't any different. 10 days in cuba and nobody wanted to go to Havana with me, so I ended up going on my own for 2 days.They all spent 10 days getting drunk at the pool's bar. Nice!!!!!!
Again 8 days Orlando and none of the cabin crew wanted to go to Cape Canaveral, so I ended up going with Captain and FO.
Once more......8 days Cancun....not one crew who had been or who wanted to go to Chitchen Itza. That again was me and the captain.
And it was a british charter airline.
So.......think about it carefully, before you leave BA for a charter airline. It all sounds nice and fun now, but I , and like me many people, would never go back to those horrible night TFS followed by night PFO followed by night ALC, once a week, 6 months a year.
Think!!!!
Good luck whatever you decide
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I am sorry to say this, but when I joined BA it was my 3rd airline and, starting from the training course I could see the difference between those ppl who were at their 1st experience and myself/other few, who had seen it all before and maybe more than once.
They were taking it as a holiday, they ended up living together (8 of them in 2 houses) and were meeting up every night, had barbecues on days off etc.
I was soooo not part of that, not because I don't like socializing, but because at the end of the day I had other things in my life already which took priority over "having fun" with the same ppl outside work.
I knew it wouldn't last anyway, in fact I believe after a while they couldn't wait for the 6months rent contract to expire!!! At the end of the day, work is work.....and it would all be too perfect if your colleagues were also your best friends.... (because life is just that kind!!!)
I believe I have a good balance between work and friends now, and when I am on those nice trips (one out to GVA/MUC/EDI/BLQ/MRS) I really enjoy going skiing, walking, out for lunch/dinner and maybe see some concerts or films with the crew,or maybe make a fool of myself on the ice ring etc. But when I am on min. rest on a two day six sector trip and I know the next day it's a long one, I actually enjoy the time when I am on my own and I can do absolutely NOTHING without feeling guilty!!
Whatever happens, in ANY airline you'll always find those who want to get out and see things, and those who don't. Charter isn't any different. 10 days in cuba and nobody wanted to go to Havana with me, so I ended up going on my own for 2 days.They all spent 10 days getting drunk at the pool's bar. Nice!!!!!!
Again 8 days Orlando and none of the cabin crew wanted to go to Cape Canaveral, so I ended up going with Captain and FO.
Once more......8 days Cancun....not one crew who had been or who wanted to go to Chitchen Itza. That again was me and the captain.
And it was a british charter airline.
So.......think about it carefully, before you leave BA for a charter airline. It all sounds nice and fun now, but I , and like me many people, would never go back to those horrible night TFS followed by night PFO followed by night ALC, once a week, 6 months a year.
Think!!!!
Good luck whatever you decide
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Who said anything about wanting to go out and get ratarsed all the time?
Unfortunatly a trip to the bar is all we usually get time for, but two of the best trips I've done were Athens and Istanbul standovers when I've been out with a couple of crew and explored the cities. On both occasions I went out with younger or junior crew, simply because none of us had done it before. To say it yet again, I do not have a problem with age, I just find the younger and newer crew are the ones who want to do this sort of thing, because they have not done it before.
Unfortunatly a trip to the bar is all we usually get time for, but two of the best trips I've done were Athens and Istanbul standovers when I've been out with a couple of crew and explored the cities. On both occasions I went out with younger or junior crew, simply because none of us had done it before. To say it yet again, I do not have a problem with age, I just find the younger and newer crew are the ones who want to do this sort of thing, because they have not done it before.
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.....i'm 100% with apaddyinuk on this one
dear Fcolover22, if you are unabe to adapt to cultural differences in your company, why stay?? is someone or something forcing you to?
do you realize you just insulted a particular nationality in your thread? i was previously working for QR for 4 years and i understand that working there is not exactly a bed of roses but if u try to respect each other's differences, im sure it'll be a more pleasant place to live in.
you try not to generalize all your colleagues but in your later thread, you proved otherwise. you can try moving to another airline where the crew shares the same interest and opinions like you do. insulting your mates like that just reflect back on you and your company. if u find it hard to adapt to them, then u need to look for a job back home. Like the company says... YOU ARE DISPENSIBLE!
i'm 100% with apaddiyinuk on this one mate!!
dear Fcolover22, if you are unabe to adapt to cultural differences in your company, why stay?? is someone or something forcing you to?
do you realize you just insulted a particular nationality in your thread? i was previously working for QR for 4 years and i understand that working there is not exactly a bed of roses but if u try to respect each other's differences, im sure it'll be a more pleasant place to live in.
you try not to generalize all your colleagues but in your later thread, you proved otherwise. you can try moving to another airline where the crew shares the same interest and opinions like you do. insulting your mates like that just reflect back on you and your company. if u find it hard to adapt to them, then u need to look for a job back home. Like the company says... YOU ARE DISPENSIBLE!
i'm 100% with apaddiyinuk on this one mate!!
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I once worked for BA from LGW Worldwide. I had some great times but I know where you are coming from with regards to Delsey Diners, Hotel Room Lurkers. I flew with many. The problem with BA is also that it is so damn big that it if you do fly with a good crew chances are you wont fly with them again for the next year.
I started like most people flying for a charter I have also worked for Budget and another schedule both long and short haul. I left BA of my own accord and at first I asked myself "what the hell have I done" but I went to work for a very small ad-hoc airline who only had one plane a very old 727 This was a big come down from BA both financialy and psychologicaly. However it was my greatest flying experience I went to places that no British carriers went to or go to now it was so small that we all did more than our cabin crew duties. All in all I had a blast it was far more memorable than my time at BA and one of the most memorable jobs that I have had.
If you are not happy at BA and want to carry on flying find a new job there are plenty of good times to be had elsewhere.
Good luck.
I once worked for BA from LGW Worldwide. I had some great times but I know where you are coming from with regards to Delsey Diners, Hotel Room Lurkers. I flew with many. The problem with BA is also that it is so damn big that it if you do fly with a good crew chances are you wont fly with them again for the next year.
I started like most people flying for a charter I have also worked for Budget and another schedule both long and short haul. I left BA of my own accord and at first I asked myself "what the hell have I done" but I went to work for a very small ad-hoc airline who only had one plane a very old 727 This was a big come down from BA both financialy and psychologicaly. However it was my greatest flying experience I went to places that no British carriers went to or go to now it was so small that we all did more than our cabin crew duties. All in all I had a blast it was far more memorable than my time at BA and one of the most memorable jobs that I have had.
If you are not happy at BA and want to carry on flying find a new job there are plenty of good times to be had elsewhere.
Good luck.
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apaddyinuk, we have already talked about the matter, some may agree with you, some may agree with me...who cares...i already apologised and also i based myself on my experiences so its my opinion so i dont voice the majority but myself....though i know many who agree with certain things, at least of what i said, and i know those who'll take your side...this isnt a war...can we put a full stop to this...? i mean, i have already reworded and apologises for any offence due to generalisation etc...so please ALL, sorry and lets put a full stop to this, the next thing you're gonna start doing what the arab world is doing for cartoons on prophet mohammed...and only because i spoke my free mind on a free and democartic country like uk...please lets stop it! thank u. i have taken responsibility so we should agree that it's dust under the carpet..please!
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Dear Chewiethewookie,
I left BA. I work for another airline. I love it and I do not earn less than I did at BA.
But I also loved working for BA. I found that sometimes I needed to amuse myself, and sometimes I met such interesting people and had very good times. The great thing was a variety of experience, sometimes wild room parties, sometmes sightseeing, often just a very pleasant meal and a glass of wine. I really enjoyed the company of crew, older, younger, the same age. In fact one of the things I miss about BA was feeling so young there and listening to the interesting stories and lives of the older crew. I have very fond memories of every destination, of wonderful camaraderie and walking through the Compass Centre knowing I would always bump into someone I knew. Even whiling away the hours of standby on the bitching bridge usually ended up with a good chat. And if there was no one, then I would study, read a book or ,as for down route, go out and explore on my own.
I was scared to leave BA since I knew that, of course, its the place that every UK hostee wants to work and one is constantly reminded by crew that pay, terms and conditions etc are "the best". That may well be the case, but if you don't feel that the "terms and conditions" of your own work/life satisfaction are not being met, then it is not the best for you is it?
Maybe I am very lucky, but what I have now works very well for me and I have achieved more than I could ever imagine. I wouldn't dare to advise which airline you should look at specifically in case you were to go there and find things not to your liking, but life after BA has been very good for me.
You can always reapply to BA and start again in the worst case senario. But don't procrastinate, take the plunge and do it. Otherwise you WILL end up one of those bitter boring people room staying people who other crew actively try to avoid.
Good luck and go for it.
I left BA. I work for another airline. I love it and I do not earn less than I did at BA.
But I also loved working for BA. I found that sometimes I needed to amuse myself, and sometimes I met such interesting people and had very good times. The great thing was a variety of experience, sometimes wild room parties, sometmes sightseeing, often just a very pleasant meal and a glass of wine. I really enjoyed the company of crew, older, younger, the same age. In fact one of the things I miss about BA was feeling so young there and listening to the interesting stories and lives of the older crew. I have very fond memories of every destination, of wonderful camaraderie and walking through the Compass Centre knowing I would always bump into someone I knew. Even whiling away the hours of standby on the bitching bridge usually ended up with a good chat. And if there was no one, then I would study, read a book or ,as for down route, go out and explore on my own.
I was scared to leave BA since I knew that, of course, its the place that every UK hostee wants to work and one is constantly reminded by crew that pay, terms and conditions etc are "the best". That may well be the case, but if you don't feel that the "terms and conditions" of your own work/life satisfaction are not being met, then it is not the best for you is it?
Maybe I am very lucky, but what I have now works very well for me and I have achieved more than I could ever imagine. I wouldn't dare to advise which airline you should look at specifically in case you were to go there and find things not to your liking, but life after BA has been very good for me.
You can always reapply to BA and start again in the worst case senario. But don't procrastinate, take the plunge and do it. Otherwise you WILL end up one of those bitter boring people room staying people who other crew actively try to avoid.
Good luck and go for it.
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Barty! A little O/T... how is your little one doing?! trust you managed to weather that crisis ok?? 
As you say, basically it's different strokes for different folks - only we as individuals can decide what's best for us...
So, go with what feels right for u Chewy!!!
As you say, basically it's different strokes for different folks - only we as individuals can decide what's best for us...
So, go with what feels right for u Chewy!!!