The Truth About Bmibaby
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One important fact were missing from this post folks, how they treat the pax too!
Obviously you folks have never met the customer relations team (or should I say the "don't answer the phones and shred the letters team!) and the reservations manager then? Well, let me tell you, they have as much management skills as the rest of the airlines management - none!
Ever tried calling baby customer relations? Its an answerphone telling you to write to them care of some PO Box number, and guess what, you get no answer as most of my friends will tell you.
Baby seem to have a the same phylosophy as mainline, doesn't matter if you can do the job or not if your a manager, its who your in bed with! TDB, I edited your comments about people who can be easily recognised
Apologies for being so blunt folks, I've worked for these guys before and I totally agree with Baby Poo, they're a right bunch of no hopers!
TDB x
Obviously you folks have never met the customer relations team (or should I say the "don't answer the phones and shred the letters team!) and the reservations manager then? Well, let me tell you, they have as much management skills as the rest of the airlines management - none!
Ever tried calling baby customer relations? Its an answerphone telling you to write to them care of some PO Box number, and guess what, you get no answer as most of my friends will tell you.
Baby seem to have a the same phylosophy as mainline, doesn't matter if you can do the job or not if your a manager, its who your in bed with! TDB, I edited your comments about people who can be easily recognised
Apologies for being so blunt folks, I've worked for these guys before and I totally agree with Baby Poo, they're a right bunch of no hopers!
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And with an attitude like yours, Iain, it's no wonder you haven't got a job with an airline. Once again people are giving their honest opinion about an airline they have worked for, which you know nothing about, and yet you assume they must have been sacked for feeling like that!
Grow up!!
Grow up!!
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Just for the record, BMIbaby dont sack cabin crew because their so short that they cant crew flights anyway...... He He He.....!
I really enjoyed baby when i first started, but i've seen it go from bad to worse. I personaly think that they are expanding to quickly. They really need to sort out their bases first before opening others, i.e bhx.
They seem to be short of crew at man, cwl as well as nema and the reason for this is basically everything that babypoo has said, because every single word is true. Cabin crew are taxiing around the country (mostly down to lgw if a/c goes tech) And we dont get paid jack s**t for that, we only get sector pay. So you could sit in a taxi for 3 hours, do 2 sectors and then taxi back, another 3 hours and get all off.... ohh... £16!!!!!! and to really add salt to injury, you get back to base at 1am, 1 hour into your day off and sorry, you dont get your day off back because its not 3am and if you think we get day off payment instead, think again!!!!!!
Now ask yourselves why we are so short off crew!
I really enjoyed baby when i first started, but i've seen it go from bad to worse. I personaly think that they are expanding to quickly. They really need to sort out their bases first before opening others, i.e bhx.
They seem to be short of crew at man, cwl as well as nema and the reason for this is basically everything that babypoo has said, because every single word is true. Cabin crew are taxiing around the country (mostly down to lgw if a/c goes tech) And we dont get paid jack s**t for that, we only get sector pay. So you could sit in a taxi for 3 hours, do 2 sectors and then taxi back, another 3 hours and get all off.... ohh... £16!!!!!! and to really add salt to injury, you get back to base at 1am, 1 hour into your day off and sorry, you dont get your day off back because its not 3am and if you think we get day off payment instead, think again!!!!!!
Now ask yourselves why we are so short off crew!
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OK Iain, you say you've applied for baby at BHX, well lets see what your writing on here in 12 months time, (that is of course if you last that long). Your guaranteed to get the job and you'll probably fit in perfectly with the new recruits who know jack s**t about flying, but are so happy to be there because they've been rejected by 101 other airlines. But give it 6 months and you'll be screaming to get out.
Also PLEASE decide which side of the fence you want to sit on, no-one likes a two faced idiot.
And just for everyones information (but mainly YOURS), i was NOT sacked i saw the light and got out while I still had some sanity!!
Also PLEASE decide which side of the fence you want to sit on, no-one likes a two faced idiot.
And just for everyones information (but mainly YOURS), i was NOT sacked i saw the light and got out while I still had some sanity!!
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ib16uk just wants to be crew so badly cant he understand that some people just dont want to do the job after starting and get out while they can.
I thought i wanted to fly, got accepted first try to WW after spending many years on the ground, now after 9 months got out and looking for pastures new.
I thought i wanted to fly, got accepted first try to WW after spending many years on the ground, now after 9 months got out and looking for pastures new.
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right where do i start.......
well.....
i also work for said company.....
and this is what i think bout it all!
UNIFORM
the new one aint that bad... what where you expecting? we are low cost airline after all... aren't we? what did you think it was gunna be? gucci suits?
for everyone that hasnt yet heard bout it ...its exactly the same as the bmi mainline one but without the suit jacket....
ROSTERS
well ...yes ...they were crap.... but now there being looked at and there getting better. no ones sayin in aint hard work.... it is...but it is certainly taking a turn for the better
SCREWING... sorry... CREWING
well what can i say... crewing are crewing... there vile to everyone... even mainline... they do need to start treating us as tho were human... if they help us a little then we'll help them when there in a pickle...
NIGHTSTOPS
there aint many now... the odd ones floating bout... but not as much as we used too... yes there used to be loads... but that was mainly when the base was new... and green crew couldn't fly together...
MANAGEMENT
i totally agree with you there... there ****... never there... most of them shouldnt be in the job...
CABIN CREW
yes theres the old school... 3/4 maybe even 5 but how often do we fly with them? theyve been here for years and years and...well... there set in their ways and no one aint gunna change em!
ex bmi crew being bitter about moving to baby? if they hate it so much they should get out oh btw if you could be so kind to pm me some names? im not sure who your talking about? i aint never heard ne one?
and the original babycrew.... well i'm one of them...and i certainly dont wanna run the show... now i know you said some.... not all.... but again i cant think of anyone ?
new crew... well yes there are some that shouldnt be flying... and there are some that are born to fly... there not all as bad as you say...
MONEY
its average... in line with most other low co carriers?
and yes we do get taxi payment... god think of all the money you could have had if you had claimed? if you n/s as much as you said we do?
LSG... hhhmmm...... discrepencies..... lookin at my comission slips....
june - 21 days work - lowest- £100 and highest - £1016 bar takings
discrepencies? 1x 63 p and 1x 15 p?
july - 16 days work - lowest £55 and highest £868
discrepecies? 0 a big fat 0!
other months are similar!
you obviuously weren't checkin the bars.... if WE dont check the bars for mistakes then thats our fault for not checking them!
LSG have HUMANS workin for em... were all human... well maybe... and we all make mistakes....
OTHER STUFF
yes the aircraft are old and yes they are knackered.... i cant argue with that...
engineers... hhhmmm... if problems are THAT OBVIOUS then engineers should spot em.... or they need new glasses.... if yer dont feel safe on the craft then you should ave spoken to management...well if ya can find em that is!
no crew food.... beleive me you aint missing anything... i was at LHR and EMA for mainline and they were vile... we usually ended up bringin our own anyway or eating spare pax ones.... no loss there then!
yes the pax on prg and ibz are vile... mostly... sometimes there ok...
and if they slap yer arse you should be flattered.... only kidding you should ave told the no'1 and captain and had em arrested.... i did it once when some freak pinched my arse... assuming i was gay...
chezch police stations arent nice i dont suppose... he spent the night there tho.... and had to fork out fare on another airline.... oh and his mates too.... cos i made sure they were refused their return flight....
no fun flyin baby... well you didnt obviously fly with me then did ya.... lol
regards
stressed out... under payed... over worked... but generally happy babycrew...
only kiddin
xx
well.....
i also work for said company.....
and this is what i think bout it all!
UNIFORM
the new one aint that bad... what where you expecting? we are low cost airline after all... aren't we? what did you think it was gunna be? gucci suits?
for everyone that hasnt yet heard bout it ...its exactly the same as the bmi mainline one but without the suit jacket....
ROSTERS
well ...yes ...they were crap.... but now there being looked at and there getting better. no ones sayin in aint hard work.... it is...but it is certainly taking a turn for the better
SCREWING... sorry... CREWING
well what can i say... crewing are crewing... there vile to everyone... even mainline... they do need to start treating us as tho were human... if they help us a little then we'll help them when there in a pickle...
NIGHTSTOPS
there aint many now... the odd ones floating bout... but not as much as we used too... yes there used to be loads... but that was mainly when the base was new... and green crew couldn't fly together...
MANAGEMENT
i totally agree with you there... there ****... never there... most of them shouldnt be in the job...
CABIN CREW
yes theres the old school... 3/4 maybe even 5 but how often do we fly with them? theyve been here for years and years and...well... there set in their ways and no one aint gunna change em!
ex bmi crew being bitter about moving to baby? if they hate it so much they should get out oh btw if you could be so kind to pm me some names? im not sure who your talking about? i aint never heard ne one?
and the original babycrew.... well i'm one of them...and i certainly dont wanna run the show... now i know you said some.... not all.... but again i cant think of anyone ?
new crew... well yes there are some that shouldnt be flying... and there are some that are born to fly... there not all as bad as you say...
MONEY
its average... in line with most other low co carriers?
and yes we do get taxi payment... god think of all the money you could have had if you had claimed? if you n/s as much as you said we do?
LSG... hhhmmm...... discrepencies..... lookin at my comission slips....
june - 21 days work - lowest- £100 and highest - £1016 bar takings
discrepencies? 1x 63 p and 1x 15 p?
july - 16 days work - lowest £55 and highest £868
discrepecies? 0 a big fat 0!
other months are similar!
you obviuously weren't checkin the bars.... if WE dont check the bars for mistakes then thats our fault for not checking them!
LSG have HUMANS workin for em... were all human... well maybe... and we all make mistakes....
OTHER STUFF
yes the aircraft are old and yes they are knackered.... i cant argue with that...
engineers... hhhmmm... if problems are THAT OBVIOUS then engineers should spot em.... or they need new glasses.... if yer dont feel safe on the craft then you should ave spoken to management...well if ya can find em that is!
no crew food.... beleive me you aint missing anything... i was at LHR and EMA for mainline and they were vile... we usually ended up bringin our own anyway or eating spare pax ones.... no loss there then!
yes the pax on prg and ibz are vile... mostly... sometimes there ok...
and if they slap yer arse you should be flattered.... only kidding you should ave told the no'1 and captain and had em arrested.... i did it once when some freak pinched my arse... assuming i was gay...
chezch police stations arent nice i dont suppose... he spent the night there tho.... and had to fork out fare on another airline.... oh and his mates too.... cos i made sure they were refused their return flight....
no fun flyin baby... well you didnt obviously fly with me then did ya.... lol
regards
stressed out... under payed... over worked... but generally happy babycrew...
only kiddin
xx
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flyer 2308....... Yes you are lots of fun..lol Not saying i've flown with you though. 
You get alot of discrepencies on the JER bars though because they know you dont have time to thoroughly check the bars, unless you open them on the ground...... which is very naughty indeed if you do
MONEY not really in line with other low cost carriers..EZY get short, medium and long sector payment, at Baby you just get £8 ( £11 if team leader) per sector, regardless of sector length. That's why you get alot of sickness at Baby, Their is no incentive to do a double PRG when you can do a double GLA and get exactly the same sector pay and finish 3 hours earlier!! I suppose you could say you get more commission doing the longer flights, but must of the pax bring pack lunches with them now!! EZY also get a bonus if they dont have any time off sick, another incentive.
ROSTERS They have supposedly been getting looked at for the last couple of months... but still its the same people doing the GLA-AGP and EDI-ALC and its the same people doing a nice little 2 sector CDG.
UNIFORM I did'nt realise we were getting a hat with our new uniform lol
Not saying i've flown with you though. You get alot of discrepencies on the JER bars though because they know you dont have time to thoroughly check the bars, unless you open them on the ground...... which is very naughty indeed if you do
MONEY not really in line with other low cost carriers..EZY get short, medium and long sector payment, at Baby you just get £8 ( £11 if team leader) per sector, regardless of sector length. That's why you get alot of sickness at Baby, Their is no incentive to do a double PRG when you can do a double GLA and get exactly the same sector pay and finish 3 hours earlier!! I suppose you could say you get more commission doing the longer flights, but must of the pax bring pack lunches with them now!! EZY also get a bonus if they dont have any time off sick, another incentive.
ROSTERS They have supposedly been getting looked at for the last couple of months... but still its the same people doing the GLA-AGP and EDI-ALC and its the same people doing a nice little 2 sector CDG.
UNIFORM I did'nt realise we were getting a hat with our new uniform
lol
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pandora
do you work for us?
only you say YOU get a lot of discrepencies on jer bars? and not WE?
MONEY
sector pay...yes this needs to be looked at... which should be done by the union... which are a load of
if you ask me... which is why ive never been in it.
ROSTERS
yes they have been looked at... i have watched JD look at them with my own eyes... if the same people are getting the same gla/agp and edi/alc week after week then they must speak to somone bout this.... again if you can find somone!
UNIFORM
yes we are getting a hat... A BASEBALL HAT!
only kidding
ok so i forgot to say the girlies arent gettin a hat......
sorry
anyway
rgds
xx
do you work for us?
only you say YOU get a lot of discrepencies on jer bars? and not WE?
MONEY
sector pay...yes this needs to be looked at... which should be done by the union... which are a load of
if you ask me... which is why ive never been in it.ROSTERS
yes they have been looked at... i have watched JD look at them with my own eyes... if the same people are getting the same gla/agp and edi/alc week after week then they must speak to somone bout this.... again if you can find somone!
UNIFORM
yes we are getting a hat... A BASEBALL HAT!
only kidding
ok so i forgot to say the girlies arent gettin a hat......
sorry
anyway
rgds
xx
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Sorry, can't resist this. I blame MOL! (only joking). But he does seem to be the butt of most moans.
I'm surprised no one has though. After all wasn't he the first to bring the notion of low cost carriers to us?
I'm surprised no one has though. After all wasn't he the first to bring the notion of low cost carriers to us?
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oh dear
baby poo u are in the downward spiral, yes some things at baby are not 100% but they are not that bad! Changes are being made for the better and as the saying goes 'rome wasn't built in a day', it has been very sucessfull in a very short space of time, I do think you have been alittle unfair
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"EZY get a bonus if they don't have any time off sick..."
Pandora's Box, please elaborate! This one's a new one to me and I've been there three years! It's amazing the rumours that circulate throughout crew rooms about what other airline crews get and don't get!
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I just thought I'd stick my head through the carpet to further mention that the crews at bmibaby are not very happy as a whole, and that quite a few of the points that have been mentioned by people about the airline can be well justified.
With regards to the new uniform, I don't think it's as stunning as some uniforms you get at certain airlines, but I think it's a huge improvement over what we have now. Considering that the original uniforms (I was one of the early "33" to join the company) were designed by regional to give us a "fun and informal" look, instead we look like entertainers from Disneyland Paris, a look which is fine on an AGP, but on a CDG full of biz pax, just makes us look unprofessional. As mentioned, the uniform looks incredibly similar to mainline, and also quite similar to Easy, if you replace orange with blue.
The rostering at baby is crap, but I think that's a deep rooted problem at bmi in general, because I was never that pleased at rostering when I was with British Midland Commuter at EMA. Our biggest problem, is that crews and aircraft are being stretched across so many bases, that it's becoming unmanageable, management have learnt from this mistake, and there are small signs of improvement. The same has to go for the crewing department as a whole, things are getting better, but if you've worked for any airline, you do get treated like little service robots by them. The service is impersonalised and difficult, but improvements are being made.
The nightstops too are slowly beginning to disappear, but again, I think this is going back to the fact that we've got way too many bases, with not enough aircraft or crew in these markets. Things are beginning to improve now management are realising some of the problems with these new bases popping up all the time, and I'm pleased to see I've not had to visit Cardiff in over 12 weeks! (No disrespect to Cardiff, the people are lovely!)
The management team at bmibaby are dreadful. TD does a good job at keeping a very professional front to the public, but I've questioned a number of decisions made by the team.
I don't know whether BHX is a good idea, and I'm certainly doubting the benefits of CWL (routes coming & going all the time) & MAN (planes are full, but lots of people there want mainline, again with routes being swapped between the two companies).
Every airline has the odd dragon-wagon or two or three. It's much worse at mainline, and even worse if you happen to work for a major like Lufthansa or United where the company's full of them (again I love the two before mentioned airlines, but some of the senior crewmembers I encountered whilst at BD I took a sour disliking to).
I agree that there are a number of ex-BD crews who don't like being over here at WW, but for many it was the only option if they wanted to stay. I jumped from Commuter (by then regional) because we were promised that it would be a good move. And there have been many benefits, with many people enjoying the new routes in the first two seasons, but the novelty of new airports has worn off. Again I'm also an original, and no names spring to mind of anyone who tries to run the show. Remembering it when it was just G-ECAS, G-OJTW and the Fokker, I do think of baby as my airline in a way, but that doesn't mean I treat people as "below" me or "Jonny Come Latelys".
By the way, does anyone know why/when we stopped naming aircraft?
Pay is good, pretty similar payment to working at Commuter, and it seems similar to most other no-frills airlines that are out there. But I'm told in terms of conditions, linked with the pay, Easy are a better ship to work for, even though it's no "Good Ship Lollipop"
The aircraft are incredibly old, some of the earlier -300s, and I dislike them. Having flown on the new -700 series on Basiq Air a few months back, there is such an improvement over the -300, and they're nearly as nice as the 320s. -300s always seeming to go tech for one reason or another (especially the two ex-GB ones we took in the spring) and the galleys & lavs are absolutely foul. Secretly, I'm wishing we got some 319s or 320s like Germanwings. Heaven to work on!
Crew meals on any airline is absolutely disgusting, I'm far more happy to bring a packed lunch in my nasty backpack, although I must say that your appetite can be quickly turned off by the foul smells that often come into the rear galley.
In general, there are some plus points, a lot of the newer, inexperienced crew are a breath of fresh air, and the older galley hags are a right laugh as well, but there are also a lot of easily fixible negatives.
Finally, as a point to NEMA. Get more bloody buses!!!! I'm sick of having to fork out for a taxi because the AirLine Shuttle to Loughborough starts too late, or stops too early, and only once an hour! We need a SkyLink type schedule. Maybe they'll read and speak to KinchBus about it!
With regards to the new uniform, I don't think it's as stunning as some uniforms you get at certain airlines, but I think it's a huge improvement over what we have now. Considering that the original uniforms (I was one of the early "33" to join the company) were designed by regional to give us a "fun and informal" look, instead we look like entertainers from Disneyland Paris, a look which is fine on an AGP, but on a CDG full of biz pax, just makes us look unprofessional. As mentioned, the uniform looks incredibly similar to mainline, and also quite similar to Easy, if you replace orange with blue.
The rostering at baby is crap, but I think that's a deep rooted problem at bmi in general, because I was never that pleased at rostering when I was with British Midland Commuter at EMA. Our biggest problem, is that crews and aircraft are being stretched across so many bases, that it's becoming unmanageable, management have learnt from this mistake, and there are small signs of improvement. The same has to go for the crewing department as a whole, things are getting better, but if you've worked for any airline, you do get treated like little service robots by them. The service is impersonalised and difficult, but improvements are being made.
The nightstops too are slowly beginning to disappear, but again, I think this is going back to the fact that we've got way too many bases, with not enough aircraft or crew in these markets. Things are beginning to improve now management are realising some of the problems with these new bases popping up all the time, and I'm pleased to see I've not had to visit Cardiff in over 12 weeks! (No disrespect to Cardiff, the people are lovely!)
The management team at bmibaby are dreadful. TD does a good job at keeping a very professional front to the public, but I've questioned a number of decisions made by the team.
I don't know whether BHX is a good idea, and I'm certainly doubting the benefits of CWL (routes coming & going all the time) & MAN (planes are full, but lots of people there want mainline, again with routes being swapped between the two companies).
Every airline has the odd dragon-wagon or two or three. It's much worse at mainline, and even worse if you happen to work for a major like Lufthansa or United where the company's full of them (again I love the two before mentioned airlines, but some of the senior crewmembers I encountered whilst at BD I took a sour disliking to).
I agree that there are a number of ex-BD crews who don't like being over here at WW, but for many it was the only option if they wanted to stay. I jumped from Commuter (by then regional) because we were promised that it would be a good move. And there have been many benefits, with many people enjoying the new routes in the first two seasons, but the novelty of new airports has worn off. Again I'm also an original, and no names spring to mind of anyone who tries to run the show. Remembering it when it was just G-ECAS, G-OJTW and the Fokker, I do think of baby as my airline in a way, but that doesn't mean I treat people as "below" me or "Jonny Come Latelys".
By the way, does anyone know why/when we stopped naming aircraft?
Pay is good, pretty similar payment to working at Commuter, and it seems similar to most other no-frills airlines that are out there. But I'm told in terms of conditions, linked with the pay, Easy are a better ship to work for, even though it's no "Good Ship Lollipop"
The aircraft are incredibly old, some of the earlier -300s, and I dislike them. Having flown on the new -700 series on Basiq Air a few months back, there is such an improvement over the -300, and they're nearly as nice as the 320s. -300s always seeming to go tech for one reason or another (especially the two ex-GB ones we took in the spring) and the galleys & lavs are absolutely foul. Secretly, I'm wishing we got some 319s or 320s like Germanwings. Heaven to work on!
Crew meals on any airline is absolutely disgusting, I'm far more happy to bring a packed lunch in my nasty backpack, although I must say that your appetite can be quickly turned off by the foul smells that often come into the rear galley.
In general, there are some plus points, a lot of the newer, inexperienced crew are a breath of fresh air, and the older galley hags are a right laugh as well, but there are also a lot of easily fixible negatives.
Finally, as a point to NEMA. Get more bloody buses!!!! I'm sick of having to fork out for a taxi because the AirLine Shuttle to Loughborough starts too late, or stops too early, and only once an hour! We need a SkyLink type schedule. Maybe they'll read and speak to KinchBus about it!
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bmi/bmibaby, basically they are the same s@@t different companies. To sum them up(having worked for one of them and it appears the other is the exactly same), they are a total disgrace to any human. Putting yourself through long days, crap money, totally pathethic management who are a bunch of half witts who can't find their a@@e from their elbow, totally dated crewing system and roters- half of which are still input to the computer manually (please!!!!) and finally a total knob of a owner whos attitude appears to be that we can easily be replaced. He told a crew member donig LHR-PMI-LHR-ABZ-LHR that they need to be working harder and that we should try one of his days!!!! Being driven around in your car with your personalised number plate going to meetings, doing lunch, staying in expensive hotels, establishing ways to increase your (and nobody elses) salary sounds fantastic!! I'd love to. I'd love to see him deal with an aggressice pax. He'd probably be in the toilet!!! Mr Bishop, you should be ashamed of yourself and no wonder your companies have no money and are falling apart. YOUR CREW HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOU and it's obviously reversed. To anybody interested in applying to either bmi or bmi baby I wouldn't even waste my ink!!!
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Hi baby poo,
I laughed so much with your post, thanx!!!
But working for mainline, i know what you mean about crewing, they treat us very badly and there is no fairness in rosters, some are much more better than others, i always seem to get the crap days. I complained to my manager but she didnt care to say the least..
I went to baby crew room at EMA when mainline operated Baby flights. Crew doesnt that friendly. But i guess they were very tired so i dont blame them.
I didnt know we had the same crewing and ops, but as you said, it might change soon.
I laughed so much with your post, thanx!!!
But working for mainline, i know what you mean about crewing, they treat us very badly and there is no fairness in rosters, some are much more better than others, i always seem to get the crap days. I complained to my manager but she didnt care to say the least..
I went to baby crew room at EMA when mainline operated Baby flights. Crew doesnt that friendly. But i guess they were very tired so i dont blame them.
I didnt know we had the same crewing and ops, but as you said, it might change soon.
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Jeez, you are not happy bunnies are ya?
Not going to argue with too many of yr points..
I have also worn the puffa jacket on occasions....hmmm...
bit of a fashion disaster...
Now, Babypoo, you mention the delay line in yr original posting.
I can tell you that the line is updated as and when a delay is going to occur and also when the said delay has increased.
." can crew please call the line again before leaving home in case of any other change to the time of departure to yr flight"
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How do I know this?..Cos I have to do the bleeding thing !!
It's us, over in Ops, that do the line...not crewing..
However, you slate crewing unmercilessly...Would u want to do their job?...Could you do their job?...They are on a permanent hiding to nothing....Did u try to get to have some understanding of their responsibilities to the company.. To crew a flight, legally, and if that means by changing yr duty, or calling you on yr days off/leave...then thats what they have to do....The pressure on them to do so is amazing..
I really hope that you are happier in yr new career...
Not going to argue with too many of yr points..
I have also worn the puffa jacket on occasions....hmmm...
bit of a fashion disaster...
Now, Babypoo, you mention the delay line in yr original posting.
I can tell you that the line is updated as and when a delay is going to occur and also when the said delay has increased.
." can crew please call the line again before leaving home in case of any other change to the time of departure to yr flight"
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How do I know this?..Cos I have to do the bleeding thing !!
It's us, over in Ops, that do the line...not crewing..
However, you slate crewing unmercilessly...Would u want to do their job?...Could you do their job?...They are on a permanent hiding to nothing....Did u try to get to have some understanding of their responsibilities to the company.. To crew a flight, legally, and if that means by changing yr duty, or calling you on yr days off/leave...then thats what they have to do....The pressure on them to do so is amazing..
I really hope that you are happier in yr new career...
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little blue,
thing is with crewing is theres no give or take, there always taking but not giving.
they dont help us out in anyway whatsoever.
perhaps if they were we might sell days off more often or go into discretion or help em out if we could? but we dont......if you ask most crew what they feel bout crewing and you'll get the same answer.....
i wouldnt want their job for any money and agree it is a hard job.
and the delay line...i have been delayed by hours in the past and with nothing on the delay line... i'm not saying always as it has saved me some time sitting in the crew room on occassions. but more often than not... although it is getting better... slowly...
anyway rgds
thing is with crewing is theres no give or take, there always taking but not giving.
they dont help us out in anyway whatsoever.
perhaps if they were we might sell days off more often or go into discretion or help em out if we could? but we dont......if you ask most crew what they feel bout crewing and you'll get the same answer.....
i wouldnt want their job for any money and agree it is a hard job.
and the delay line...i have been delayed by hours in the past and with nothing on the delay line... i'm not saying always as it has saved me some time sitting in the crew room on occassions. but more often than not... although it is getting better... slowly...
anyway rgds
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babypoo......you start by saying "the truth about bmibaby".....is it really the truth?......or is it your opinion? 
Credit to you for leaving rather than continuing in a job that you disliked, but there are many crew who do still enjoy the job. No company is perfect, in fact many airlines (indeed many companies in other industries too) are far from perfect. The personal challenge should be to do your best to make the most of a situation and turn negatives into positives.....certainly helps keep the blood pressure low!
.....oh and "ancient aircraft"????......the oldest I can find is 10 years....sounds pretty young to me! Engineers are all experienced.....but clearly you seem to know better??
You say...."The cabin crew should teach the company a lesson but nobody ever will, you will always have people who will put up with any rubbish thrown at them because their too scared to stick up for themselves".......this is hardly a professional suggestion.....everyone then suffers and more bad feeling is created throughout the company.....and the passengers get cheesed off and go elsewhere.....but then you think the passengers are "vile" anyway so you probably dont care!...but they did pay your wages and commission.
Hope you find something more to your liking!
Credit to you for leaving rather than continuing in a job that you disliked, but there are many crew who do still enjoy the job. No company is perfect, in fact many airlines (indeed many companies in other industries too) are far from perfect. The personal challenge should be to do your best to make the most of a situation and turn negatives into positives.....certainly helps keep the blood pressure low!
.....oh and "ancient aircraft"????......the oldest I can find is 10 years....sounds pretty young to me! Engineers are all experienced.....but clearly you seem to know better??
You say...."The cabin crew should teach the company a lesson but nobody ever will, you will always have people who will put up with any rubbish thrown at them because their too scared to stick up for themselves".......this is hardly a professional suggestion.....everyone then suffers and more bad feeling is created throughout the company.....and the passengers get cheesed off and go elsewhere.....but then you think the passengers are "vile" anyway so you probably dont care!...but they did pay your wages and commission.
Hope you find something more to your liking!
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I gather from this thread that, if you work for bmibaby, you must have to spend your days listening to the same people whingeing about the same old things, all day, every day. Which must get rather wearing!
Sounds like a few of them should have worked harder at school so they could have got jobs that they like!
Sounds like a few of them should have worked harder at school so they could have got jobs that they like!
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max nightstop
Who the hell do you think you are, you come onto the cabin crew forum.... and you are basically implying that all cabin crew are thick and were only doing the job because we did s**t at school!!
Some pilots (and i say SOME) think that cabin crew are just onboard that aircraft to feed and water your a**e.... and from the comments you made in your post, you are obviously one of them, infact with your attitude..... i would be very surprised if you fly for an airline....or are you bitter cause you did'nt make it
Just for the record, I still very much enjoy my career..CAREER... I dont like the company i fly for..... and just because i complain about baby (there is know such word as whingeing!!!) it does not mean that i left school with no qualifications!!
I would think more carefully next time before you post, because that was a very nasty comment you made
Who the hell do you think you are, you come onto the cabin crew forum.... and you are basically implying that all cabin crew are thick and were only doing the job because we did s**t at school!!
Some pilots (and i say SOME) think that cabin crew are just onboard that aircraft to feed and water your a**e.... and from the comments you made in your post, you are obviously one of them, infact with your attitude..... i would be very surprised if you fly for an airline....or are you bitter cause you did'nt make it
Just for the record, I still very much enjoy my career..CAREER... I dont like the company i fly for..... and just because i complain about baby (there is know such word as whingeing!!!) it does not mean that i left school with no qualifications!!
I would think more carefully next time before you post, because that was a very nasty comment you made