Jetstar - Wannabes & Recruitment II
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Wow I would have jumped at the chance to attend a Virgin Blue day in Dubai! Having just returnedto Aus and now and am not flying (I'm in banking of all things!) It would have been really intersting to see how many turned up. Lots I immagine. JQI if they were willing to spend a $ or two would also have some luck I'm sure. Last year whilst with EK I flew back to Australia no less than TWICE on trips to Interview for them. After going DXB-SIN-BNE, I think went standby BNE-SYD-MEL-HBA-SYD for an interview (HBA to get my suit) then the mext time on DXB- MELto SYD return for a final interview. I was lucky enought to be offered the job but in the end and prob $600 later (including medicals ) had to decline the offer as there were no suitible start dates. Rumour has it now that all JQ and JQI teams are converting to some ****ty contract where staff travel in non existent and pull out payments, live days etc are all scrapped. Can anyone confirm?! I'd still be interested in the HBA base domestic but have been warned by fiiends...
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ShesGreatInTheGalley, why must you lump ALL new, fresh out of ground school crew in the same boat like that?
It sounds like you are infact the whingey one going by that post. I personally have been nothing but enthusiastic and hard-working since I was checked to line a couple of months ago, and a lot of my ground school mates talk about how hard they're working just to avoid the kind of reputation you're talking about, ie. lazy, whingey, etc.
I have not heard any negative comments from any CMs about my particular ground school and most have commented on how well prepared and knowledgeable we have been compared to SOME ground schools of the past. I know my SOPs and EPs as well as any other crew member, and in some cases probably moreso because I've had them taught to me and drilled into me quite recently. I don't however go around pretending like I know everything in front of the experienced crew because I know how cocky and arrogant that would look. I also realise that I probably still have a lot to learn about the job, which will come with time.
And it's really disheartening to hear someone like you who will just brandish all new people as dumb and lazy. As for the example you gave about someone not knowing how to arm a door... Well if I was confronted with someone like that I personally would almost want to shoot them, because that procedure is drilled into us so much during ground school, I find it hard to believe anyone would actually have a problem with performing that.
I actually think that the morale at Jetstar could actually do with a bit of a boost from a lot of fresh, new faces like us who are still very excited to have got the job and still quite enthusiastic (however naieve you might think that is). I've even had some crew of about 3 or 4 years experience comment on how nice it is to see so many excited new crew out on line and that it reminds them of how they felt when they first started.
Ugghh! Sorry if I just got HUGELY defensive, but I can't stand people who generalise and take the actions of a few new people and talk about how all newbies are the same, when there are some of us who are putting in a hard effort to stay on everyone's good sides and positively work together with the existing crew.
It sounds like you are infact the whingey one going by that post. I personally have been nothing but enthusiastic and hard-working since I was checked to line a couple of months ago, and a lot of my ground school mates talk about how hard they're working just to avoid the kind of reputation you're talking about, ie. lazy, whingey, etc.
I have not heard any negative comments from any CMs about my particular ground school and most have commented on how well prepared and knowledgeable we have been compared to SOME ground schools of the past. I know my SOPs and EPs as well as any other crew member, and in some cases probably moreso because I've had them taught to me and drilled into me quite recently. I don't however go around pretending like I know everything in front of the experienced crew because I know how cocky and arrogant that would look. I also realise that I probably still have a lot to learn about the job, which will come with time.
And it's really disheartening to hear someone like you who will just brandish all new people as dumb and lazy. As for the example you gave about someone not knowing how to arm a door... Well if I was confronted with someone like that I personally would almost want to shoot them, because that procedure is drilled into us so much during ground school, I find it hard to believe anyone would actually have a problem with performing that.
I actually think that the morale at Jetstar could actually do with a bit of a boost from a lot of fresh, new faces like us who are still very excited to have got the job and still quite enthusiastic (however naieve you might think that is). I've even had some crew of about 3 or 4 years experience comment on how nice it is to see so many excited new crew out on line and that it reminds them of how they felt when they first started.
Ugghh! Sorry if I just got HUGELY defensive, but I can't stand people who generalise and take the actions of a few new people and talk about how all newbies are the same, when there are some of us who are putting in a hard effort to stay on everyone's good sides and positively work together with the existing crew.
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I have no idea about the current conditions they don't mention them at all at the assessment days but do mention that things like days off are not guaranteed....what does that mean? Sounds ominous.
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ShesGreatInTheGalley, why must you lump ALL new, fresh out of ground school crew in the same boat like that?
It sounds like you are infact the whingey one going by that post. I personally have been nothing but enthusiastic and hard-working since I was checked to line a couple of months ago, and a lot of my ground school mates talk about how hard they're working just to avoid the kind of reputation you're talking about, ie. lazy, whingey, etc.
I have not heard any negative comments from any CMs about my particular ground school and most have commented on how well prepared and knowledgeable we have been compared to SOME ground schools of the past. I know my SOPs and EPs as well as any other crew member, and in some cases probably moreso because I've had them taught to me and drilled into me quite recently. I don't however go around pretending like I know everything in front of the experienced crew because I know how cocky and arrogant that would look. I also realise that I probably still have a lot to learn about the job, which will come with time.
And it's really disheartening to hear someone like you who will just brandish all new people as dumb and lazy. As for the example you gave about someone not knowing how to arm a door... Well if I was confronted with someone like that I personally would almost want to shoot them, because that procedure is drilled into us so much during ground school, I find it hard to believe anyone would actually have a problem with performing that.
I actually think that the morale at Jetstar could actually do with a bit of a boost from a lot of fresh, new faces like us who are still very excited to have got the job and still quite enthusiastic (however naieve you might think that is). I've even had some crew of about 3 or 4 years experience comment on how nice it is to see so many excited new crew out on line and that it reminds them of how they felt when they first started.
Ugghh! Sorry if I just got HUGELY defensive, but I can't stand people who generalise and take the actions of a few new people and talk about how all newbies are the same, when there are some of us who are putting in a hard effort to stay on everyone's good sides and positively work together with the existing crew.
It sounds like you are infact the whingey one going by that post. I personally have been nothing but enthusiastic and hard-working since I was checked to line a couple of months ago, and a lot of my ground school mates talk about how hard they're working just to avoid the kind of reputation you're talking about, ie. lazy, whingey, etc.
I have not heard any negative comments from any CMs about my particular ground school and most have commented on how well prepared and knowledgeable we have been compared to SOME ground schools of the past. I know my SOPs and EPs as well as any other crew member, and in some cases probably moreso because I've had them taught to me and drilled into me quite recently. I don't however go around pretending like I know everything in front of the experienced crew because I know how cocky and arrogant that would look. I also realise that I probably still have a lot to learn about the job, which will come with time.
And it's really disheartening to hear someone like you who will just brandish all new people as dumb and lazy. As for the example you gave about someone not knowing how to arm a door... Well if I was confronted with someone like that I personally would almost want to shoot them, because that procedure is drilled into us so much during ground school, I find it hard to believe anyone would actually have a problem with performing that.
I actually think that the morale at Jetstar could actually do with a bit of a boost from a lot of fresh, new faces like us who are still very excited to have got the job and still quite enthusiastic (however naieve you might think that is). I've even had some crew of about 3 or 4 years experience comment on how nice it is to see so many excited new crew out on line and that it reminds them of how they felt when they first started.
Ugghh! Sorry if I just got HUGELY defensive, but I can't stand people who generalise and take the actions of a few new people and talk about how all newbies are the same, when there are some of us who are putting in a hard effort to stay on everyone's good sides and positively work together with the existing crew.
I am most certainly not against having new crew - far from it! every new crew member soon becomes an old one and if you work with them from the same base, a good friend and colleague. So, fresh blood into a company is a great thing - of which i have never doubted.
Now i dont know how old you are, or what your previous experience is prior to flying, and its none of my business. My post was directed mainly at those who are fresh out of high school - little if no full time work experience - who think that this job is a walk in the park and they can sit around and dream all day.
And this is obviously not you - so dont be offended at my post as i wasnt directing it at you!
If you are one of the younger ones straight from school - then good on you for having the balls to even visit this forum and post a reply - it obviously shows you love your job and are committed to it - and from your post, that you work hard and are not 'lazy' etc The people i refer to (and sadly whether you believe it or not.. there are a few in every ground school) are not the type to even know of this forums existance - they are too busy out partying to be home on the internet.
Every time they do a ground school they seem to (and this is a rumor - its been years since mine so i have no idea) 'train' the new employees into thinking that those of us who are still here (pre-JQ) are wingey, lazy, negative, hating the company all that and that its only the fresh crew that keep the motivation going - who love their work.
I wouldnt still be here, loving my job three or so years on (from JQ startup) if i was of that frame of mind. Many have taken the opportunity to leave. There isnt much incentive wise to keep those here who really hate this kind of work, so its fair to say that those of us who have been here since before JQ actually take pride in our jobs and enjoy coming to work and meeting new, positive and energetic crew who want to do the right thing. And yes, it still ****S me that i meet reguarly crew who are new (under 12 mths) who prefer to sit in the galley and complain... or who are always invisible in the cabin when needed etc
You are obviously new enough not to notice this yet.. but its there.. and its happening - and they dont stay longer than 12 months really because they realise that its a very lifestyle consuming job and that they are expected to work. Please post back in 12 months and let me know if you still believe my post was totally out of order - you will notice it yourself.
* and yes- i was having a big winge in that post - which is why i called it 'rant'.
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Thanks, I appreciate you explaining your 'rant' a little bit more fairly. Glad that I didn't have my head chomped off for speaking up a bit. 
I realise this is a forum where people are perfectly allowed to vent frustrations about the job and talk about things that really tick them off, and I'm sure you're not the sort to carry that attitude on at work! Infact I haven't met anyone at JQ that has made me feel unwelcome or that has shunned me out of a group conversation or anything because I'm new. And from what I'm learning about the morale/culture issue thus far, it seems that people who don't genuinely enjoy the job and who whinge and don't put in the effort generally just drop off and leave after a while.
And I do understand what you mean about the fresh out of high school type of new crew and their serious misconceptions and inaccurate expectations of the job they're entering into. I guess I could think of one or two from my ground school who mayyy fall into that category, but I haven't heard any directly negative things about them thus far. I did however work with someone from the ground school after me just the other day and was quite frustrated by how much of her job I was having to do for her and just how little she was willing to be proactive about certain things and not using any intiative whatsoever. So I do see where you're coming from.
Your first rant just seemed to come off as a bit of a generalisation. Thank you for clarifying...
I realise this is a forum where people are perfectly allowed to vent frustrations about the job and talk about things that really tick them off, and I'm sure you're not the sort to carry that attitude on at work! Infact I haven't met anyone at JQ that has made me feel unwelcome or that has shunned me out of a group conversation or anything because I'm new. And from what I'm learning about the morale/culture issue thus far, it seems that people who don't genuinely enjoy the job and who whinge and don't put in the effort generally just drop off and leave after a while.
And I do understand what you mean about the fresh out of high school type of new crew and their serious misconceptions and inaccurate expectations of the job they're entering into. I guess I could think of one or two from my ground school who mayyy fall into that category, but I haven't heard any directly negative things about them thus far. I did however work with someone from the ground school after me just the other day and was quite frustrated by how much of her job I was having to do for her and just how little she was willing to be proactive about certain things and not using any intiative whatsoever. So I do see where you're coming from.
Your first rant just seemed to come off as a bit of a generalisation. Thank you for clarifying...
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Hey guys..
I have to be honest, Im about to be one of the new kids on the block with my first flight next week.. Yes another newbie..
I understand that high turn over rates and rapid growth in a company can be quite the pain in the bum.. Ive been there and experienced it myself..
THATS why im so terrified of my first flight, especially after reading these forums. Ive been on here for some time now.. long before I even applied for the position..
Im one of the eldest in mt ground school - but still not all that old.
I understand what it meant when its said that many are quite young with little or no life experience or full time work experience, I have been fortunate to have all of the above.
I worked hard at uni to get my nursing degree and I worked hard as a nurse amoungst other positions previously held..
Im a bloody hard worker (and no im not blowing my own trumpet) and Im proactive.. BUT im terrified I wont be good enough and that ill be one of the crap ones when it comes to line training..
I certainly never want anyone to feel as though they have to do my work for me, that would kill me knowing that someone feels that way..
Im terrified.. any hints?
Ps. Bullsh*t someone didnt know how to arm/disarm doors.. Its drilled into us for about a week - we eat breath and sleep with those thing being drilled into us!!
I have to be honest, Im about to be one of the new kids on the block with my first flight next week.. Yes another newbie..
I understand that high turn over rates and rapid growth in a company can be quite the pain in the bum.. Ive been there and experienced it myself..
THATS why im so terrified of my first flight, especially after reading these forums. Ive been on here for some time now.. long before I even applied for the position..
Im one of the eldest in mt ground school - but still not all that old.
I understand what it meant when its said that many are quite young with little or no life experience or full time work experience, I have been fortunate to have all of the above.
I worked hard at uni to get my nursing degree and I worked hard as a nurse amoungst other positions previously held..
Im a bloody hard worker (and no im not blowing my own trumpet) and Im proactive.. BUT im terrified I wont be good enough and that ill be one of the crap ones when it comes to line training..
I certainly never want anyone to feel as though they have to do my work for me, that would kill me knowing that someone feels that way..
Im terrified.. any hints?
Ps. Bullsh*t someone didnt know how to arm/disarm doors.. Its drilled into us for about a week - we eat breath and sleep with those thing being drilled into us!!
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Hopeful CC -
at the end of the day its all about attitude - we know that its daunting straight from GS and that you cant pick up EVERYTHING in the first day or two - no one expects you to. The only thing crew will expect of you, is that you come to work on time, are positive and a hard worker, helpful and if your not sure of something, ask! People dont expect miracles from new crew - we just expect some kind of positivity towards the job, you know, looking like your enjoying it, not rolling your eyes at passengers etc haha
Just that, and get out in the cabin as much as possible are the only things to keep in mind.. the rest will be a piece of cake and you will be fine!
at the end of the day its all about attitude - we know that its daunting straight from GS and that you cant pick up EVERYTHING in the first day or two - no one expects you to. The only thing crew will expect of you, is that you come to work on time, are positive and a hard worker, helpful and if your not sure of something, ask! People dont expect miracles from new crew - we just expect some kind of positivity towards the job, you know, looking like your enjoying it, not rolling your eyes at passengers etc haha
Just that, and get out in the cabin as much as possible are the only things to keep in mind.. the rest will be a piece of cake and you will be fine!
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possible PER base???
hi all, quick question for the current jetstar crew. i ave a mate in hthe mel base and she was sayin they are going to open up a Perth base? can anyone comment on this rumour, i currently work in the UAE and am starting to look for jobs to come home? as im from perth i was wondering how true this rumour may or may not be??? cheers!!!
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JET STAR questions
HI All,been out of the loop for a while,started with Easyjet back in Oct 06,came over from Aus,thinking of going back home soon,want to still fly,can anyone give me an idea of the net wages you good people get,if that's ok
Also do u know if Aus airlines do recruitment drives in U.K and how do I obtain Senior first aid certificate and alcohol certifcate,do I need these before I can apply.
Finally,what do u think my chances are of getting a job with Jetstar,do they look at age for example,as Iam 37
Sorry for the thousand questions but if anyone can help please reply or pm me.
Thanks
Also do u know if Aus airlines do recruitment drives in U.K and how do I obtain Senior first aid certificate and alcohol certifcate,do I need these before I can apply.
Finally,what do u think my chances are of getting a job with Jetstar,do they look at age for example,as Iam 37
Sorry for the thousand questions but if anyone can help please reply or pm me.
Thanks
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Early Feb Recruitment
Did anyone attend the recruitment days at the start of Feb? Have you heard anything? I was asked to do a medical on the 20th and have heard nothing since Has anyone had a start date? Has anyone had a no e-mail? Some personal stories would be appreciated so I know I'm not alone!! Summa101...any news?
Has anyone had a start date? Has anyone had a no e-mail? Some personal stories would be appreciated so I know I'm not alone!! Summa101...any news?
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Hey Auspomme! Under the new Team Jetstar agreement you would receive a base salary of $33,479 (rising 3% annually), and after the $11.70/block hour flying allowance, you would stand to earn anywhere between $44-47,000 over a year.
As for Australian airlines conducting recruitment drives in the UK, from my knowledge no they don't - except for Qantas LHR base of course.
I'm not sure whether a senior first aid certificate and responsible service of alcohol obtained in the UK (or the equivalent of those) would be acceptable for Jetstar or the other carriers here. If not, then if you at least show them a receipt at your recruitment day which confirms you are booked in to a course in the coming weeks then that's normally accepted.
And as for your age, forget about worrying!! Because crew of ALL ages are being recruited at Jetstar and Virgin Blue at the moment. There was a 45 year old woman in my ground school, two people aged in their early 40s in the school after me, and a man in his early 40s I spotted in the Virgin Blue ground school that was using the Qantas training facility at the same time I was there. So as long you fit the bill in their other criteria, age is not a factor!
Good luck getting in back here at home!
It's a great time to be trying, with so much recruitment going on at all 3 airlines.
As for Australian airlines conducting recruitment drives in the UK, from my knowledge no they don't - except for Qantas LHR base of course.
I'm not sure whether a senior first aid certificate and responsible service of alcohol obtained in the UK (or the equivalent of those) would be acceptable for Jetstar or the other carriers here. If not, then if you at least show them a receipt at your recruitment day which confirms you are booked in to a course in the coming weeks then that's normally accepted.
And as for your age, forget about worrying!! Because crew of ALL ages are being recruited at Jetstar and Virgin Blue at the moment. There was a 45 year old woman in my ground school, two people aged in their early 40s in the school after me, and a man in his early 40s I spotted in the Virgin Blue ground school that was using the Qantas training facility at the same time I was there. So as long you fit the bill in their other criteria, age is not a factor!
Good luck getting in back here at home!
It's a great time to be trying, with so much recruitment going on at all 3 airlines.
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Hey bbear75, I went to the Dec 13 2007 assessment day for Melbourne base LHCC and got through the 2nd interview the following day. Then emailed me the medical, ASIC/CHC the day after. I had my Medical, submitted my CHC etc the following week. Then a month later Jan 15 08 to be exact they emailed me a confirmation that my application has been successful and was put on the active hold list. I waited another month before the next email which was Feb 21 2008 basically saying exactly the same thing, I'm on the active hold list. Now I'm still waiting for my Ground school date, and hoping and praying that I will get that phone call soon. It's really a long wait so be patient, it's been 3 months now since my interview. Stay positive it will happen sooon before you know it. I hope that helps and will put your mind at ease.
PS: If anyone here can give me some idea when is the next GS for melbourne base LHCC please reply, I would appreciate it.
Cheers
PS: If anyone here can give me some idea when is the next GS for melbourne base LHCC please reply, I would appreciate it.
Cheers
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Thestarcrew,
Thanks for the info. I'm okay with the waiting, it just seems as though the Sydney recruitment never took place! No one seems to be in, out or waiting. You compare this post to the QCCA one and it's very quiet. I don't know about L/H GS for Melbourne. I think S/H Sydney is supposed to start at the beginning of April. At least you know you're in!
Thanks for the info. I'm okay with the waiting, it just seems as though the Sydney recruitment never took place! No one seems to be in, out or waiting. You compare this post to the QCCA one and it's very quiet. I don't know about L/H GS for Melbourne. I think S/H Sydney is supposed to start at the beginning of April. At least you know you're in!
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Hey guys,
I too was in the december 13th interview for LHCC, however I went straight thru to grouns school and after working my butt off for the last 6 weeks, graduate tomoro and start flying on Wednesday.
I have heard rumours that MEL LHCC GS wont be going ahead for some time yet as they have enough but syd and cns are in need of crew so maybe if u call or email them they may be able to swap u in ur willing to move!!
Wishing u all the best!
EKYLE - why would u say such a thing? What on earth do u have to bitch about when it comes to TJQ??
I get it - u probably bitched about any new crew members when they started cos they were new and u felt that u had the right to do so.
But news flash - u dont!! We have the EXACT same training as JQ, We work the same hours for LESS money - u were no smarter than us when u guys first started.. Just because we have TEAM infront of our name.. does that HONESTLY give u some advantage over us??
Get a grip!!! I can say these things as I previously worked for JQ under JQ not TJQ - and there is NO difference except for a lower pay rate.
Not that Im generally an eye for an eye kind of person, but I do hope that you feel what its like to be on our end when u make the transition..
How can justify you action just because we come under a newer name?
BBEAR75 - Im with u all the way!
I too was in the december 13th interview for LHCC, however I went straight thru to grouns school and after working my butt off for the last 6 weeks, graduate tomoro and start flying on Wednesday.
I have heard rumours that MEL LHCC GS wont be going ahead for some time yet as they have enough but syd and cns are in need of crew so maybe if u call or email them they may be able to swap u in ur willing to move!!
Wishing u all the best!
EKYLE - why would u say such a thing? What on earth do u have to bitch about when it comes to TJQ??
I get it - u probably bitched about any new crew members when they started cos they were new and u felt that u had the right to do so.
But news flash - u dont!! We have the EXACT same training as JQ, We work the same hours for LESS money - u were no smarter than us when u guys first started.. Just because we have TEAM infront of our name.. does that HONESTLY give u some advantage over us??
Get a grip!!! I can say these things as I previously worked for JQ under JQ not TJQ - and there is NO difference except for a lower pay rate.
Not that Im generally an eye for an eye kind of person, but I do hope that you feel what its like to be on our end when u make the transition..
How can justify you action just because we come under a newer name?
BBEAR75 - Im with u all the way!
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EKYLE
Explain the differences.. please! Id love to know how u think u differ so bloody much to TJQ as domestic crew..
Its a well known fact u get paid more that TJQ - whats ur point??
Do u think that gives u a right to bitch about people who are doing JUST as much as u and getting paid less? Think of yourself as lucky and get over the subsidurised company.. have u nothing else in life to worry about?
Im TJQ international and I have mates that are JQ international the ONLY difference is they are paid more than I am for the same amount of work.. who cares - no big deal.. NOTHING to bitch about on their behalf!!!
With an attitude like yours - id love to be a fly on the wall in your new job when u walk in thinking you are better than the rest!
Explain the differences.. please! Id love to know how u think u differ so bloody much to TJQ as domestic crew..
Its a well known fact u get paid more that TJQ - whats ur point??
Do u think that gives u a right to bitch about people who are doing JUST as much as u and getting paid less? Think of yourself as lucky and get over the subsidurised company.. have u nothing else in life to worry about?
Im TJQ international and I have mates that are JQ international the ONLY difference is they are paid more than I am for the same amount of work.. who cares - no big deal.. NOTHING to bitch about on their behalf!!!
With an attitude like yours - id love to be a fly on the wall in your new job when u walk in thinking you are better than the rest!
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I Am Sorry!
LOOK I AM SORRY! I guess I am no better for accepting lesser conditions at QCCA. I was just so annoyed with the company...and some of the new crew...they gave me the ****s: all excited, without realising how bad it really is! 
BTW I have deleted the posts - OK! HAPPY NOW!
BTW I have deleted the posts - OK! HAPPY NOW!
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Apology accepted EKYLE!! There are always going to be bad eggs wherever you work. There are always going to be people that don't pull their weight. It's the way life is. If you can finish your shift and know you worked the best that you could, then nothing and nobody else matters. Of course the new crew are excited ( I am going to be wetting myself with excitement if I ever get the call!) , but don't turn it into a JQ v TJQ thing. Good luck with Qantas...I hope all the things that made you unhappy at JQ don't rear their ugly head at QF. Sometimes the grass isn't greener, but I hope it is for you
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G'day AUSPOMME,
I paid around $80.00 for my RSA, you can book/pay it online. No sure about the first aid certificate, I didn't have to get one since I'm also an ICU Registered Nurse, with Advance Cardiac Life Support training. Hope that helps.
Cheers Mate
I paid around $80.00 for my RSA, you can book/pay it online. No sure about the first aid certificate, I didn't have to get one since I'm also an ICU Registered Nurse, with Advance Cardiac Life Support training. Hope that helps.
Cheers Mate