EDIT: redsnail was faster! G'day! :D

You are supposed to reach the airport terminal within 60 minutes of travel time. Practically, it is not all that important if you are able to catch the requested airline - the travel distance/time is fully on you. It may become relevant, when you live several hours from your gateway airport and are put on standby duty at home. From activation, the company expects you to leave your house in 45 minutes or less, then travel max 60 minutes to the airport for a 60 minute airline show time. I always take a long distance, highspeed train to the airport and every now and then I need to travel to the airport the night before and sleep there at our contracted hotel (at own cost) to avoid getting up at 2am, because of bad train connections. We have colleagues who live 3 or 4 hours away from their gateways and they almost always have to travel the night before and stay at hotels or relatives'/friends' places - but this is their own choice. The company may ask you to report an address within 60 minutes travelling time to the airport. Maybe you have a relative or a friend who lives in such a place and you can use their address, for this purpose.

As you can see, there is an element of flexibility, but crew have to be able to reach their airlines on day 1. On the other hand, should your airline arrive very late on the last day of tour and you feel exhausted, the company will provide you with a hotel at your gateway. Just ask for it and give some reasons.

EDIT 2: redsnail mentioned LEPA: Palma is one of our seasonal summer gateways: in summer you can request to temporarily change your gateway to LEPA, no problem at all. Otherwise it would work as redsnail mentioned. You can even ask for day 1 if starting tour at another airport is possible - as long as the cost is equal or less, no issues - normally.

Thanks! Basically you resumed everything what I was thinking about, I know it’s risky. Also I didn’t know you could ‘ask for a different airport’ for the last day of repositioning, so that’s also a plus. Thank you.

Hi EMS!
Yes, my situation would be something like that: 50 min flight from my city, prices are not that high but I know there would be a extra cost for hotel overnights and also the flight ticket. I know it’s risky and also more expensive but at least it’s possible. I didn’t know either as the other colleague said that you can ask for a different airport for the first and last day or repositioning (as long as the prices or duty time are the same)
I am also impressed that you can ask for a hotel at your gateway city (in some specific occasions as you said)

Thanks to both of you redsnail EatMyShorts! All my questions were answered and some extra information was given too! Very useful :)

Hi everyone,

I'll do the HR interview (stage 2) on Tuesday.

It's unrelated, but I wondered if NJE considers body height as a factor when assigning an aircraft to a successful candidate.

Coming from A320 so was never a question until now :)

Cheers

Is it common for people to use the temporary gateway option as their de facto gateway and how happy the company is for that?

If they need crew on the Phenom, they will try to put everyone on that type. If you are tall, they might get you measured by a company appointed MD and you may end up on an XLS.

someone told me that for 9 months nje uses temporary gateway which are spread out in europe and then for the 3 months of the "hard" winter season the gateways become in a lower number. anybody knows if this temporary gateway includes some airports in italy like MXP or OLB? because is not mentioned in the kura website.
thanks in advance

No, this is not accurate.

We have a given set of official gateway airports. Crew members must choose one of them as a permanent gateway. During the summer season, e.g. from June until September (occasionally they get extended through October), a small number of summer gateways can be used during this timeframe only. This year our summer gateways are Palma (LEPA), Athens (LGAV) and Faro (LPFR). They can be used if you want to place your family at or near these summer gateways during your kids' summer vacation and you start and end your tours there to spend as much time with them as possible, while not having to take vacation days.

The official list of permanent gateway airports can be found in the FAQ document at KURA: https://kuraairlineresourcing.co.uk/...024/07/FAQ.pdf

Yes, and no problem from the companies side.

thanks a lot! that's clear

anybody did the interview with kura for the stage 3? any tips?

I'm surprised that a couple of respected contributors liked this comment. I think the response given is wrong and could lead to real problems down the road. If you intend to use a temporary gateway as your de facto permanent gateway then please get it in writing from the company that they are ok with it. I think you won't get that statement. They know that social security needs to be paid in the country where a crew member regularly starts and finishes their duty. If the temporary and permanent gateways are in the same country then this should not be a problem, If they are not then this could become very problematic at some point. The term gateway is not legally defined but the term homebase is:

“home base” means the location, assigned by the operator to the crew member, from where the crew member normally starts and ends a duty period or a series of duty periods and where, under normal circumstances, the operator is not responsible for the accommodation of the crew member concerned;

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...X%3A32014R0083

https://www.eurocockpit.eu/news/new-...w-does-it-work

Well, it depends on the context. Obviously there are certain rules for how many days you have to use your permanent gateway. We only count the off-days that need to be calculated/assumed to having been at your permanent gateway, so it is not a big problem to spend a few tours at another gateway per year, keeping it all legal. If it's within the same country, it is even easier as it won't have an impact. Our colleagues who live in Ibiza and Mallorca come to my mind, who need to use Barcelona as their permanent gateway. So far, Catalunya is part of Spain, so no problems.

i haven't

No debate about same country. That's not the issue. But if one starts and ends more tours at their "temporary" gateway in another county than at their permanent one then problems must be expected down the road. The home base is where a crew member normally (i.e. most times) starts and ends their duty and where the operator is not responsible for accommodation. If that's not in the country of your permanent gateway then social security might become an issue at some point.

Correctly, it might become an issue, but so far - from what I gathered after talking to colleagues - it seems to be limited to Scandinavia. And you are right that the use of temporary gateways in countries different from one's permanent gateway needs to be limited. The office has all the details, they don't belong here, I guess.

If you make it to the assessment and don’t make it then just ask Kura, you will absolutely get it. With the online interview you may not but you can still ask Kura. It won’t be offered unless you ask for it.

if you don’t get as far as an interview I doubt you’ll get feedback but chances are it was an issue with experience or preparation.

Hi all

do netjets have any part time contracts? I’m currently 75 ish percent with my airline and thinking of a move but part time opportunities are something that I’d be looking at

U already have a job , don't take someone else 's job !

Full time jobs only. You may be able to reduce to 80% or less after some time in the company. But you can never ever work as a commercial pilot somewhere else while employed by Netjets Europe.

wow. That’s entitled. Obviously i won’t have 2 jobs so someone can have mine!

thanks. I wouldn’t want to work elsewhere. Just to spend more time at home.

Depends if you view the 6/5 roster as part time already. I do compared to some airline patterns. that's 4 days away from home. I don't class day 1 or 6 as away fully.

Hi everyone,

I had my interview with 2 Kura senior recruiters.

First of all, I had chosen an earlier date but due to a last-minute roster change, I had to reschedule. I was a little bit concerned about the image that such a move would reflect but in fact, I quickly received a rescheduling confirmation. They seem to be very supportive.

One of the recruiters will conduct the interview, asking questions, while the second will turn off his camera/mic and note your answers.

About the atmosphere: very nice individuals who genuinely would like to know more about you. No need to pretend, just be comfortable with yourself.

Competency-based interview so you can expect scenario questions to evaluate your CRM and what you know/expect of NETJETS and the corporate job.

I suggest to not be afraid to speak too much (giving extra details) rather than too little.

If you are not familiar with the STAR (situation - task - action - result) technique, I suggest that you take some time to tailor your answers accordingly.

The interview will last about 45-50min and they will offer you some time to ask questions.

Feedback expected within 2-5 days.

Recruitment seems to lean on the EMB505 fleet, of course, depending on NJE needs at the time.

Overall, I had a great time with very kind interviewers.

Best of luck to you!

hello, anybody knows how to get a social security number in your gateway country without being resident? if i chose zurich as my gateway how can i get it?
thanks

That's not a question for this forum/topic. It will be down to individual circumstances on whether you are actually entitled to a social security number. You're better off using google.

The experience you had does not surprise me. I love working here. There’s always rooms for improvement and there are negotiations currently underway. But hopefully it will work out and this will be a a genuinely awesome place to see out your career.

The question was is this possible and does the company allow it.
And the answer to both is yes.
I and many with me have been doing it non-stop or at least prolonged periods with full knowledge/approval of the company.
Wether or not it is actually legal in the long run (see Scandis using CPH but living in ARN), is another matter.
But even there, the company still allows these crew members their ARN base/gateway now.
Because they know if they touch it, **** will hit the proverbial fan.

Someone going to phase 3 (October?) PM me. Are all the one from earlier this year active flying or still waiting for start dates etc? Thanks in advance

Hi Griego,

I'll be there, pm'd you ;)

Has anyone got any feedback on phase 3 of the assessment? Would appreciate any info. PM me if you can. Thanks in advance!

following

is someone already did the stage 3?

any idea how many courses they'll run next year and how many usually are on each course??

No idea re numbers of courses to be run yet. Course numbers are usually around 20. But this can vary of course.

Hello, I just came back from the selection in Farnbourough and did the full 2 days. They try to comfort you but in all still a stressful experience. If you need info PM me. Best regards.

Hey Vanni, I PM'd you. If anyone else has any feedback, I'd appreciate it. Thanks

Hi Vanni, I dropped a DM for you as well!

Vanni your inbox is full! thanks

Has anyone that was successful with the assessment had a job offer yet?