Unique Air Swansea

[mikehammer]

No Phil there's a fleet now - look, Mr Harding still has GWWIZ!!:

G-WWIZ Current Reg. Date:17/09/2007Previous ID:G-GAMAFirst Reg. Date:17/09/2007Status:RegisteredDe-Reg. Date:
Manufacturer:BEECH AIRCRAFT CORPORATIONType:BEECH 58Serial No.:TH-429ICAO 24 bit aircraft address:010000000010000111010011 (hex): 4021D3Popular Name:BARONGeneric Name:BE58Aircraft Class:FIXED-WING LANDPLANEEngines:2 - 2 x CONTINENTAL MOTORS CORP IO-520-C

Ownership StatuswnedRegistered Owners:FRANCIS RONALD MARK HARDING
OAKTREE HOUSE
CHURCH LANE, DODDINGHURST
BRENTWOOD
CM15 0NJ
UNITED KINGDOM

MTOW:2450kgTotal Hours: 6598 at 31/12/2004Year Built:1973CofA / PermitASA STANDARD COFAC of A Expiry:05/07/2008

Anybody want a job?!!!!! Canned laughter.

[abovetheclouds]

Phil

Is this a recent email of yours to Unique Air selling your Senecas?
I think you may find there are more Citation 2's to follow.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Phil Brockwell" <phil. [e-mail]>
To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: centre line

Since purchasing and bringing our first jet online, and completing our fifth year of operating Kingair 200's, we have been considering selling our Seneca operation which consists of 3 Seneca's operating daily contracts for 2 different banks. Once you have a license to operate these aircraft I would be happy to send you further details.

[Phil Brockwell]

I fail to see the relevance of your post. If you are trying to show some sort of commercial relationship between our companies I suggest you show the whole chain of emails from July 6th-9th this year.

Phil

[mikehammer]

I fail to see any logic or sequence to many of ATC's posts. In one he claims to be age 36:

No I do not fly besides I only have around 253 hours total including 126 M/E and in December I will be 36 so with getting caught with my ratings issue and low time does anyone think I will get a job...

In another he claims to be of retirement age:

Thanks for making an old pilot happy in retirement you guys. I remember seeing the Viccount also. I believe it was a museum/shop at one stage. Does anyone have any more memories/photos?

ATC

And yet strangely there is some similarity in his posts in other threads to other claims about pilots and licences on this thread.

Not been trolling have we?

[Phil Brockwell]

And he has emails sent to MD and MS.

Every time this thread starts getting boring or looks like the saga is over someone does or says something completely stupid and it all starts again.

[Duck Rogers]

Shakes head in disbelief............


Some people just never know when to quit. Still, makes my job more interesting

[Life's a Beech]

Just when we start to get all the posters through from the CAA, to put up in our local friendly FBOs and handling agents warning people about illegal carriers. They have a bit of a crack down at the moment. Remember to show your passengers your AOCs, chaps, so they know what to look for next time they charter!

[Phil Brockwell]

Somehow I don't see this one being operated illegally. It's one thing to do a few hooky charters on a piston twin out of Swansea, but assuming this 550 is going to be FAB based, it would be pretty conspicuous if it did.

[2old2dieyoung]

Yet nobody at FAB have any info regarding Unique ???? Funny that ?

[Itswindyout]

Post AOC in prominent place

Remmeber when in the gfood old days, the CAA issued a little sticker saying AOC holder.

The MCA (yachties version), issue an annual sticker.

The DVLA, have had plenty of prac tice too.


Just how complex would it be for all national authorities to issue a similar sticker, to be located inside the aircraft, to the left of the main entrance door.

It would solve many "problems".

windy pops

[Gulf4uk]

not AT Fab

This is parked at Bournemouth last week Not G reg NOT AT FAB
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tony.stevenson1/boh.jpg
hope Works ok Server has been on\off all morning

[Red Raven]

Apparently the maintenance base is in Bournemouth, while the operations base is in Farnborough.
How long does it take to convert from LX to G?

[Phil Brockwell]

Reading between the lines from a couple of conversations UAI are entering into a contract to manage this aircraft for an individual owner who is in the process of purchasing the aircraft.

[Eilene-Dover]

wouldn't let unique manage my shopping list let alone an aircraft.

wonder if the owner realises what he/she is getting involved with??

[Phil Brockwell]

I was quite surprised, I was under the impression that there was a pot of gold to buy aircraft with, not simply another management company without an operating licence.

[flynowpaylater]

Phil, am I right in saying that many of these companies that "manage" other peoples private Jets, don't have their own aircraft, maintenance or AOC then ?

I thought the idea was that existing operators incorporated the aircraft within the fleet, and thus spreads the cost of maintenance, crewing, operations etc...with the added benefit of providing charter work to offset some of the capital expenditure.

[Phil Brockwell]

There are 2 types of management, not everyone wants to recoup costs by selling the aircraft out on the market, some people just need the aircraft looked after without the need for AOC sales as well.

[flynowpaylater]

You would think that with this boom in the biz jet, private ownership market, that the CAA would set some sort of regulation / licensing on the management companies. Maybe not to AOC standard, but certainly something that incorporates some sort of accountability.

If I owned an aircraft valued at multi millions, I would like the comfort of knowing that it was managed properly within defined guidelines, notwithstanding any flight safety issues. There seems to be a lot of variation within this market, with very little regulation on the operation. I guess the engineering issues are covered sufficiently under the specific aircraft type's maintenance programme.

Is there any regulation regarding crew hours for example ?

[abovetheclouds]

I think you may find Phil is a little mis-informed the aircraft is owned by a number of parties all involved with the company, as are the other aircraft on order which could be verified if the detectives knew were to look you may also find there is an A.O.C for the aircraft, there are also crew ready to fly the aircraft.

Rgds
ATC

[421]

AOC Number Then?

Hi ATC,

Out of interest what's the AOC number for Unique then? As of 29th November, they don't appear on the CAA list? Or are they piggy-backing off of another?

Regards,

421