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Old 15th Nov 2007, 09:49
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Runway,

Occams Razor mate:

Smiling can use tricky words like wheelbarrow, marmalade and precis. The sackee couldn't.

Certificate reissue due to, say, change of address. That would be an ATP to be a Continental pilot wouldn't it? Basic FAA law and on their database. Go look for yourself.

Do try to keep up - you're spoiling skeptics' reputations everywhere.
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I see what you mean about the spelling and grammar Rob....................
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 10:06
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Carbon.

Yes LOADS of mud on this thread (and in the industry). Can't imagine MD ever running a company again.

However the comment about the clerk was referring to a message from Rob and was intended as a joke.....which seems to have backfired.

Why would the newco keep an associated name....ask them! I didn't but maybe the next interviewees should?

I asked a direct question, they gave a direct answer. I asked why Rebellious1 not paid and you know the answer. I asked others and got direct answer.
I don't see what they had to gain by not giving direct answers. The fact they did was more satisfactory than if they skirted around it.
You know which one I am asking. Funny enough it is not being answered.

What has kept me coming back is that whenever I ask something that goes against the grain then people seem not to want to discuss it but lambast.

Sure it appears MD and Unique were odd to say the least....

PPRune Towers.......I introduced my German colleague to the site yesterday (waiting around) and his first comments was that he thought US licences are renewed every 2 years..maybe that is why "Captain" Davies has a 2005 licence...however surely it would only be an ATP if a PIC????????? If he was an FO/SO he would not, would he? Trainee Skeptic!!!!

You know a lot has been made about the press article.....well British Airways used "The worlds most favourite Airline" and did everyone believe that? No but good spin. Maybe he is a better spin doc than owner?
Do you see the point?
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 10:17
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Your defending nothing and what am I supposed to know, I dont know any of these people personally except what I have posted on here as I can testify to a charter flight conducted back in August last year as I have posted so if there is something you wish to bring to light, be my guest.
As I have said you appear to have a lot more info hence why everyone here thinks your MD, Thats it really, defender of the indefensible!!
All you do, and I have to say is thank you is keeping this idiot and his associates in headlights. If you wish me to post more details about the flight ill be happy to do so, plane, where parked etc not a problem, but if you can be bothered to go back through the thread you will find all relevant info.


ps I thought licences were re-validated every 2 years not a new licence
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 10:36
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If you actually have more info - Publish and be damned!
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 10:37
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Devil thread

So where is the problem it seems to have gone from the company to the person the company as I understand was owned by more than 1 person, the money came from outside parties, now it appears to be focused on MD I believe you don't have be a taxi driver to own a taxi company you don't have to be a baker to own a bakers, it seems that you need to be a top rated pilot to own or start a charter company, surely if it was that easy everyone of us would do it. Why work for someone else when you can work for yourself?

Runway wide hasn't taken the job but was given answers to the questions asked, he asked instead of reading rumor the focus has gone from the company to the person. What are the terrible things this company has done as far as I can see not pay crew, there are 2 sides to every story, Runway has some answers the other posters don't like it.

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IF an Illegal flight took place the CAA would have certainly slammed any idiot into the ground....yes?
I presume that you have reported it to the CAA, as I would.

If you have, what was the outcome?

If you haven't then do it now rather than playing with it on this site.

The CAA should be involved.

I am not defending the indefensible............but I am not believing all that has been put on this thread either!!!!!!!!!!

Looking on other threads just about every company has been lambasted some by rumour, some true and some false.

What I find interesting on this thread is that ANYONE who has an opposite opinion or even DARE to ask a relevant questions is lambasted (look it up MD) or even accused of being MD.

Yes I have read the thread....and yes there are a lot of accusations.....but not by as many as it appears.

I made the mistake of coming on here with a comment. All hell broke out and that sort of tells me that there is something more to this than meets the eye.
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 11:51
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Grrr

OK
you dare to ask about the rumours which you have been given answers to, the article about how he lied about being a 777 pilot, about not paying people you said you know and info which has been published about the flight before, and yes reported to the CAA
The outcome I dont know I am not party to privaliged info, thought as you say your professional you would no that, surely
Nobody is saying not have an opinion but you constantly defend it, for what reason after you have had the info (which you say you havn't) is right in front of you we dont know.
By people speaking out against such a character and company (name) you expect us as the wounded party to say nothing, then all i can say is, stop posting if you dont like it, simple for you, give up, the opinion of defending such people and or company is not worth the time effort and integrity of the people involved in this, you also have resounding evidence from the towers yet you ignore again.
So dont discuss it you wont get the answers you dont want


ps all proven remember
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 11:56
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over and over

The same thing is being said here over and over, arguing the same point, someone says a good thing and the same posts from months ago come back up say a bad thing and the same posts come up. is there really any point to all this. Rebellious 1 didn't have a valid I.R MEP he lied about it then shot his mouth off for not getting paid see link at the top of page what people think of covering up, Runway asked a question and gets shot down, Carbon seems to have a grudge for what ever reason.

Whatever is said there is truth in the matter unique is there and having aircraft under new management or not. MD may be in the background, does anyone really care. As far as I can see if aircraft are flying, pilots get paid through an agency or the company, the aircraft are on an AOC and controlled by the CAA regulations where is the problem.

Carbon and runway just enjoy a cat fight play nice girls, in the playground
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 12:11
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"IF an Illegal flight took place the CAA would have certainly slammed any idiot into the ground....yes?
I presume that you have reported it to the CAA, as I would.

If you have, what was the outcome?"


I think I'd like to add to the debate here if I may. I was working at a brokerage where one of the more inexperienced brokers approach MD for a quote (after he had on many occasions asked us to source aircraft for him). The price was good and naturally my colleague wanted to offer it to his client. I made him stop until we saw a copy of the AOC and some details of the aircraft itself. MD would (could) not send us the AOC, and tried every trick you can imagine just to prevent him giving us the registration. Eventually he admitted that it was a "N" reg machine and that's when we walked away. It wasn't on an AOC at all, but that didn't stop him wanting our money and wanting to do the flight for us (not a charity flight either)!

So, the reason some of these flights haven't been reported is simply because there are people out there being vigilant against the MD's of this world, and if something isn't stacking up properly, then walk away.
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 12:13
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What is your grudge or are you just along for the ride you Know everything and have all the info are you MD.

I still don't get the focus on MD should it not be the company the focus is on or is everyone here above the CAA.

Where are the aircraft that the new company has, any info on that

Again monkey the past not really relevent,

Was MD trying to broker the flight out somewhere else we don,t really know do we
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 12:13
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RHS.

You seem to think Unique have an aircraft, and pay their crews. I am not aware that either of these assumptions are true.

I am glad that they now have an AOC to work on, have you seen the document?

For any pilots who are thinking of working for this operation, do yourselves a favor and check the AOC paperwork, if it is being operated by a third party, check that the operation of the aircraft is covered in the AOC and the insurance documents, there have been claims that an AOC was in place before, but this was not true.

I wouldn't get too excited about these guys until an aircraft actually turns up, until then it's all a bit pie in the sky.

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Old 15th Nov 2007, 12:21
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I really do find it fascinating that a thread which by all rights should have gone the way of the dodo, filed in the dustier recesses of the Towers springs back into life with such regularity.

It's equally interesting that the embers are constantly poked by new sign ups all hammering away at a single point? Why would this be? Why do they persevere when it tells the pros here more about Unique 1's operational integrity and record keeping/checking than it appears they could ever guess.

We have a letter from Unique 2 clearly stating they were only housewives during the war and wash their hands entirely of the the previous operation.

So, in the great scheme of things this really is a minor and nonsensical bit of fluff - a Walter Mitty unmasked. However, what makes it run and run is emails to us from MD inside the last 24 hours assuring us he is still the hand that rocks the cradle, operating from a distance through a trusted team and inviting us at the Towers to the celebrations for his new aircraft arriving.

I'm sure Unique 2 will write again to clarify the situation.

Soap Opera - trivial but nevertheless fascination lies within.
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 12:32
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some sense at last you are right, wait and see what transpires, if there is an AOC then problem over, why keep going over the past, wait and see if any aircraft arrive then is the time to see what happens. Until that point, its just a big cat fight, no purpose just something to do when bored, have a chuckle.
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 12:48
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Why would it be a criminal offence not to have ratings current? That is a bizarre idea. The only allegations here that could be criminal are those about Unique. OK it would be a major issue if someone went for the job without ever holding the ratings, but I don't think that is the issue, and even that wouldn't be a criminal matter unless the person actually flew with no rating.

As for disclosure, that would probably be a sacking offence if the person had been asked at interview and lied. Different matter entirely. The fact that it is a rating is irrelevant, any material untruth would be the same, but again not a criminal issue. However you only have company word that the person ever claimed to have current ratings. I don't know why anyone going for a public-transport job would lie about that, as they would have to do an LPC anyway.

I would not want anyone who lied about any of his professional qualifications or experience flying for me. However before anyone flew for me I would have copies of licences, certificates and medical and have looked at the logbook. I would also ensure ratings are current by the mandatory LPC. All that is to comply with my obligations for our AOC. The currency of ratings for applicants is not at issue, I have taken on pilots with no current MEP or no current IR.

The only reason that the rating currency could be an issue to Unique is if they were operating illegally, or if they wanted pilots for private flights.
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Old 15th Nov 2007, 12:57
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For the soap fans out there I'd just like to point out that our recent and deeply worthwhile signups are posting from the same computer connection:

Step forward those stars of shared modern communications saving the environment:

righthandseat1
spunkbubble
and fix it

There's even an old timer - Above the Clouds elbowing his way through the throng.

You might dial back a page and, upon reflection, suggest they possibly have an overall shared viewpoint - I couldn't possibly comment.
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What

righthandseat1, pilotmike, fix it, bfato, 421, kevair, Mike Echo, gra war, FeatherTheProps, 0815pilot, The Oxygen Boys, Awesome_Welles, TurnAroundWingsLevel, J32/41

Are you trying to say that I have 2 computers running the same time just to post here, as above, both online the same time

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Are you daft? How about just having different windows open all on Pprune, all with different log ins.

I think I'd believe the admins from this board more than you........
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Well

I guess I must be didn't Know you could do that I will give it a go later, see if it works
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With two browsers open yes,

I do it all the time as PPRuNe is rendered differently between browsers and operating systems. We also encourage our mods to do the same as we like them to have a 'work' name in isolation. Some PC firefox users find our reply box disappears which doesn't seem to have affected the users I've mentioned. There are also spybots that automatically report joint IP'ed posting but I'm very, very old and simply smell it happening.

All part of the service freely given and with a lot of experience in these things.

But it's the content that's of interest to readers and they can judge perfectly well themselves.

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