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Old 6th Dec 2007, 14:48
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Some sources I have are showing the owner(s) as:

Mr. Mark Sedgley
Northcare Developments, Ltd.
United Kingdom
Office: 44-7701-***-***

No address and just a mobile number! Sold on the 26th November by Boutsen Aviation to Northcare Developments. Previoulsy owned by Luxaviation.
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 15:15
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flynowpaylater,

If you own an aircraft worth millions of dollars, you may look at all aspects of the potential manager's operation, not just the upfront cost. I guess there's a general assumption that if someone is smart enough to earn enough money to buy a private jet, they have enough sense to have it operated sensibly, but it ain't neceessarily so.

For instance, some owners don't seem to inderstand that their safety is related to how well rested the flight crew are. Because the law says that ther are no flight time limitations (as with AOC/Part 135 ops) for private ops, some owners are quite happy to have their crew fly for well in excess of commercial maximums. Personally, I want any crew flying me to be awake. Hopefully they're a little more sensible about their maintainance.

Chips
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 19:58
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one suspects abovetheclouds is the infamous Mark Davies!!!!!!

welcome back Mark.

how's Tesco's?
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 21:21
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Bingo.

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Old 6th Dec 2007, 21:39
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Unless Davies has spent the last few months at Swansea Community College that is not he.

Look, the current Unique vehicle (UAI) has an aircraft, reputedly has more coming, some level of AOC cover is imminent, or why buy the aircraft. This operation moved well beyond MD's aspirations a long while ago.

Maybe the investors are real and they have decided to do it without MD?

There is a chance that Unique MKII is real, and has money, and has shed some excess baggage (if you know what I mean). If this is the case they will employing and training crew (and paying them). And if they owe anyone it is the pilots let down by the previous front end. OK, they are only CE-550's, but you were all willing to fly a Barron a while ago.

Go with your eyes open, but check it out.

Personally I suspect that this operation is being done with the best of intentions as per any start-up. As such it carries the same risk as any start-up.

As long as MD is nowhere near the decision making process and the AOC is in place, and you don't part with any money for a type rating etc, then they owe you a job...go take it!
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 22:24
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Seems like a sudden turnaround Mr Brockwell. Why the suddent defence?

"Reputedly more aircraft coming"!!! Just like he (MD) said he had last year with xnumber of Citations, xnumber of King Airs, xnumber of Barons, xnumber of pilots. Are you on commision or just his new PR gimp?

Having had the unfortunate displeasure of MD's company last year, any of the goings on that he is involved with should be avoided at all costs. All pilots must avoid the b*ll**** that he talks.

One does wonder why he was deported from USA. I'm sure there is another story out there that is yet to come out.

The CAA is fully aware of him and his tactics as is Special Branch. Wonder if Inland Revenue also need a phonecall. :-)

I very much doubt that anything with his name or the unique name on will ever be given an AOC let alone any type of insurance. The brokers won't touch the bloke either. Word spreads quickly in this industry. Surely you, as a legitimate operator, would know that by now Mr Brockwell??

Come on.............
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 22:33
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Unique have had the invitation to set the record straight as Mark has repeatedly written to us claiming to still be in charge. These letters are very recent and he extended an invitation to meet and greet the arriving aircraft.

Without clarification on these issues all news is simply seen as spin and caveat emptor remains the primary response from us.

Rob
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 22:35
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Maybe they do owe us a job, but let's not forget Sedgely was the one who wrote to us in no uncertain terms ordering us to fly the baron which was not on an aoc, claiming that it was, and this despite the fact that there were no current approach plates or charts available.
Job? No thanks!
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 22:37
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Hands up who can afford a moral victory......?

To be honest with you, I can, and to this end I will make up my own mind on this one.

However, this is a Pilot forum, and I have supported the ex-Unique pilots on here as has been pretty damn obvious, both by my recruitment and my comments.

If, and admittedly a fairly BIG if...
Unique have an aircraft.
Unique are willing to offer you a position, and pay you and type rate you.
MD is not associated.
Unique obtain and maintain an AOC

What have you got to loose. Do not miss out on what is morally yours by cutting off your nose...... there are potentially first officer jobs that you are almost entitled to, and as long as you use the education afforded you by MD and do not leave yourself open, you should demand them.

After all, if Unique are to rise from the ashes without a dillusional MD and with pilotless aircraft, you would be very hacked off if someone else logs a few hundred hours of jet time with them, and gets money.
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 22:40
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Towers,

If MD is still the MD, then I agree all bets are off.

Phil
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 22:45
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Fair point but I don't want anything to do with MS either for the reasons outlined above. That and the fact that he is a singularly unpleasant individual who lied about funds and dutch banks. Besides I am happy in my current role as a proper F.O. in a reputable company.
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 22:48
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Numb-Nuts.

I don't care. Whatever happens to Unique it will not affect me. They are a start-up. Over 15 years I have seen dozens. In fact I have employed crew whose first proper job was in the chaos of a start-up.

If you claim the jobs that are rightfully yours. I do not care, but you should. Please do not criticise me over this one, it's just an opinion. An opinion that a lot of you have asked for over the last few months.

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Old 6th Dec 2007, 22:50
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There are three names from Unique 1 that still are apparently involved in the rebirth whether within documented claims, or company and aircraft registrations.

As I've stated in recent weeks it's simple enough for Unique to clarify.

They've written before, back in September, so I'm sure it's not beyond them to do it again.

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Old 6th Dec 2007, 22:51
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Sorry, I type slow.

Mike, you have a flying job, but you know, not everyone does, and even if they do, they might be flying a Seneca to Dublin every night, and it will be 6 months + before they are getting FO time on a jet.

What would you do if you were working the fuel farm?

Phil
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 23:12
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Phil phil phil........come on.

Surely you should not be encouraging newly qualified people to get a flying job with a cowboy operator like Unique?

You are basically telling us all to get a job and to sod the legalities of it all?

You know as well as I do that Unique is a complete and utter disaster on all accounts.

If you had an ounce of integrity you would warn every pilot reading this thread to stay well clear of them and protect their licenses.
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 23:20
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Phil has plenty of integrity and speaks a lot of sense.

If Unique are a totally different outfit from the intial setup AND it is all kosher, then there is no problem flying for them, apart from the usual caveats about new operators.

If they are willing to pay you and give you a type rating, then what's the problem.

However, if they are anything like what has been posted here, then run screaming for the hills. Mind you, I haven't known many Leopards to change their spots in this business.

Be careful, but if it is your first job, then why not?
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 23:25
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Numb-nuts.

Unique are not an operator. An operator has a license. However IF they do become an operator, and you feel morally unable to take their money, then that is your call, I don't care, I have a job. For those of you who don't have a job, then as long as you go in with no financial risk and have your eyes open, then you can make your decision too.

Phil
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 23:25
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I don't think that's what Phil's saying. He's saying IF (BIG BIG IF!!!) they have an AOC and everything is above board, then go for it - but go in with your eyes open.

I have to admit that I am amused that MD/Unique have perpetuated the discussions on here about their company. In this industry reputation is everything and everyone in it only knows about Unique from what they've written here (or what they've told us during the sales visits) - hardly the reputation I'd want to be launching with into the competitive world of Citation II's. The fact that they've written to PPRuNe which, let's face it, is a great read but hardly the most factual of websites, astounds me. He'd be better off spending his time writing to the CAA about how to get his AOC application lodged rather than rubbishing pilots, other operators or, well, anyone, on this public forum. It just keeps the post coming to the top of the pile and gives it oxygen.

I told MD by e-mail a few months ago that we all take everything on here with a pinch of salt and to let it wash over him and not rise to it, but the fact that 4HP keeps telling everyone that MD is registered here and posting under about 10 different names just puts a wry smile on my face. If he thinks defending himself on here is worth the effort then he will love it once the punters start shouting that the food's crap, the aircraft's dirty, the air-con was ****e, the handlers were rubbish, the price is too high, the flight was late etc etc etc!

As with everything caveat emptor, if it's a job in a safe, legal and rewarding environment - take it - a boss is a boss and as long as they don't pressurise you into compromising the law or safety then it's worth a punt. If it's not, well, there must be that job going in Swansea Tesco...

(Phil - didn't find out who's in 114, will go looking tomorrow).
 
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I can't believe my integrity has just been called into question......sheeesh
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Old 6th Dec 2007, 23:34
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Unique will never get a license.........trust me on that.

IF they do become an operator and IF MD is still involved and IF they still treat their staff like total sh*t then I for one will be happy to turn their money down.

I too have a job and don't care.

I fail to see your point other than that you repeatedly want to defend and excuse the actions of one criminal that seems to be making a mockery of our industry.
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