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Auxtank 4th Mar 2020 18:01

Looks like a BL.10 to me by Gerard Lantrés.




dook 4th Mar 2020 18:05

BL10.

Robbed !

Auxtank 4th Mar 2020 18:27


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10702728)
BL10.

Robbed !

Almost right, I'd say; Mugged ! :cool:

Interesting craft - ALL wooden, no canvas. Only 2.4M long. Must have flown like a house brick.

Auxtank 4th Mar 2020 20:24


Originally Posted by fauteuil volant (Post 10702721)
Ah, but there was more than one of them! Thus a little more precision, please, as to the type designation of that in the image posted.

Precision done, and 24 HRS passed - can you declare the winner please...

fauteuil volant 4th Mar 2020 21:25

Gentlemen, you must decide amongst yourselves who is the winner. The identity of the machine in my image is the Bouffort et Lantrès BL.10, which employed the Elytroplan design of the Vicomte Charles de Rougé. For those who read French, you'll find more about it at Charles de Rougé et les Elytroplans, where there is also an article which describes the flight principles of the Elytroplan. For my part, I doubt that I'll have any further involvement with this thread. Sadly the moderation is too heavy handed for my taste. But I wish you good sport in the future. Au revoir.

Auxtank 6th Mar 2020 19:46

Fly this...and stay fashionable...

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....466d4f35eb.png

Self loading bear 6th Mar 2020 20:07

The exact type number will be difficult!

Auxtank 6th Mar 2020 20:31

Bear - I'll accept the Country, designer name and what was the massive achievement he created in terms of the aircraft pictured.

Self loading bear 6th Mar 2020 21:38


Originally Posted by Auxtank (Post 10705277)
Pourquoi, mon amis?

(I didn't say it would be easy - look at what you're looking at)
Easy to take a rocket in to the stratosphere at 15,000 FPM - the rest of us have had to make do with other craft...

Perhaps because you beat Dook in the last round by naming the model number?

By the way, I think you should insist on 2 Countries to be mentioned.

Auxtank 6th Mar 2020 21:50

I will accept Country of origin, Designer and mechanical concept that revolutionised FLIGHT.

Auxtank 6th Mar 2020 22:42


Originally Posted by Auxtank (Post 10705306)
I will accept Country of origin, Designer and mechanical concept that revolutionised FLIGHT.

But for now; Auxtank retires for the night.
Sleep on it chaps - we'll hear ourselves again in't morning.

MReyn24050 6th Mar 2020 22:54

Possibly the Pescara Model 3 which was the first of several coaxial helicopter designs by Raúl Pateras Pescara to demonstrate sustained controlled helicopter flight

dook 7th Mar 2020 08:21

Was it not first helicopter to demonstrate sustained flight using cyclic pitch control ?

Auxtank 7th Mar 2020 19:56

Good shot MReyn,
You got it. Argentinian Marquis de Pateras Pescara produced several Helicopters - this one being Model 3 - that had the contra-rotating 'biplane' rotors.

Honourable mention to dook who nailed the fact that this was the first to successfully demonstrate true cyclic pitch control.

Note the Batman wings over the cockpit to prevent rotor ingress to pilot head in the event of break up.
Bloody brave souls.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0b0b29fd2e.jpg

MReyn24050 7th Mar 2020 21:15

Thank you Auxrank. Tracking on that beast would have been a nightmare. Not like the simple days tracking the main rotor on the Bell 47, i.e. broom stick rubber pad and china-graph pencil.

Here is the next:-

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2485ddab2d.jpg
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Auxtank 7th Mar 2020 22:17

Is it just the photo or are those some odd wing tips there?
Fuel tanks?

MReyn24050 7th Mar 2020 22:37


Originally Posted by Auxtank (Post 10706268)
Is it just the photo or are those some odd wing tips there?
Fuel tanks?

They are reported to be tip tanks.

sycamore 8th Mar 2020 15:42

They look like c310 tip tanks...is it an early 152/172...?

MReyn24050 8th Mar 2020 20:10


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 10706846)
They look like c310 tip tanks...is it an early 152/172...?

Sorry for the delay no not an early 152/172

dook 8th Mar 2020 20:12

American ?


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