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longer ron 28th Feb 2020 10:57

My other half is very cross with you Dook - she spent a couple of hours this morning trying to ID this cute little aeroplane,and now she has to go shopping in the rain (she shoulda gone earlier when it was dry :) )

Anyway just to add to my earlier post - there is a nice pic of the designer here ....

Abandoned & Little-Known Airfields: Northeastern Nebraska

https://i.imgur.com/MmXEG1u.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Pio8et8.jpg

dook 28th Feb 2020 12:55

Nice shooting longer ron.

Apologies to your 'uvver 'aff.

Your thread.

longer ron 28th Feb 2020 13:16

Sorry guys it will have to be OH.

PDR1 28th Feb 2020 20:15

May I offer this one:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....255664d454.jpg

PDR

MReyn24050 29th Feb 2020 14:37

Hawker F.20/27 perhaps.

PDR1 29th Feb 2020 23:24


Originally Posted by MReyn24050 (Post 10699049)
Hawker F.20/27 perhaps.

I'd hoped it would be harder that that, but you got it right - the Hawker F20/27 which was the Jupiter-powered precursor to the Fury family
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6be1c92817.jpg

As it happens I have an original print of this photo which I rescued when BAe Kingston closed its technical library in 1991.

MReyn24050 has the batton...

PDR

MReyn24050 1st Mar 2020 09:38

Thanks PDR1, I found an almost identical.photograph in Francis K Mason's book Hawker Aircraft since 1920.
Here is the next;-

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e55c74fd83.jpg

Auxtank 1st Mar 2020 19:44

Mercedes-Benz powered?


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....899c5f56b2.png

MReyn24050 1st Mar 2020 21:12

Not powered by a Mercedes-Benz.

Auxtank 1st Mar 2020 21:19

Are you sure about that - because that is a very obvious Mercedes-Benz - or Daimler-Benz three pointer on the tail...complete with shadowing in the right place, etc...

Auxtank is always prepared to be proved wrong...:)

Was this like - a one off? Noted; the lack of a King Post - did the aircraft fold up on the first flight and was never seen flying again?

Would anyone have heard of this - if they hadn't read a particular book - of which only 200 copies were printed?

dook 1st Mar 2020 21:37

I agree.

May this be found on the web ?

If not, most people have no chance.

MReyn24050 1st Mar 2020 22:43


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10700141)
I agree.

May this be found on the web ?

If not, most people have no chance.

There are photograph of this aircraft on the web not necessarily exactly as published above but certainty in the role depicted.. It certainly didn't fold up on it's first flight in fact it broke a few records in it's time.

MReyn24050 2nd Mar 2020 09:19


Originally Posted by Auxtank (Post 10700060)

I owe you an apology whilst I said that the engine was not a Mercedes-Benz there is a link as I am sure you know:-
The Mercedes-Benz brand was born under a lucky star: the current trademark comprising a three-pointed star in a laurel wreath was created in 1925 – in time for the merger between Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft (DMG) and Benz & Cie., which together became Daimler-Benz AG, in summer 1926.
A Daimler link.
Please accept my apologies.

dook 2nd Mar 2020 09:43

Prolly a German floatplane then ?

MReyn24050 2nd Mar 2020 10:15


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10700441)
Prolly a German floatplane then ?

You may well be correct. I am surprised you haven't identified it as appeared in "What silhouette" several years ago

dook 2nd Mar 2020 10:32

I can't remember that far back. :uhoh:

dook 2nd Mar 2020 15:17

Is it the Daimler Klemm L15 ?

MReyn24050 2nd Mar 2020 15:54

Flying Machine Thread
 

Originally Posted by dook (Post 10700694)
Is it the Daimler Klemm L15 ?

Wait Our..

Auxtank 2nd Mar 2020 17:49


Originally Posted by MReyn24050 (Post 10700422)
I owe you an apology whilst I said that the engine was not a Mercedes-Benz there is a link as I am sure you know:-
The Mercedes-Benz brand was born under a lucky star: the current trademark comprising a three-pointed star in a laurel wreath was created in 1925 – in time for the merger between Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft (DMG) and Benz & Cie., which together became Daimler-Benz AG, in summer 1926.
A Daimler link.
Please accept my apologies.

Of course.
Although you're almost right.
The star was born in 1909 when Daimler’s sons Paul and Adolf recalled an 1872 picture postcard sent by their father to their mother with a three-pointed star marking the location of his house in Germany with the explanation that one day the star would shine over his factory and bring prosperity. DMG took the star as the company’s logo, trademarking three- and four-pointed stars but only using the three-pointed one; to depict Daimler's involvement in providing engines for Land, Sea and Air. The logo began with a blue color but was changed to its signature silver after its involvement in the first Grand Prix at the Nürburgring in 1934.

MReyn24050 2nd Mar 2020 19:03


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10700694)
Is it the Daimler Klemm L15 ?

Yes the aircraft was the Daimler-Klemm L15W. You have control. More information on the aircraft here:-

https://hannsklemm.wordpress.com/modelle-2/l15/


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