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Jhieminga 6th Apr 2020 16:46


dook 6th Apr 2020 17:39

Thank you MReyn.

It's not often a challenge stands for a week.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bab5753b90.png

Archer4 8th Apr 2020 11:49

Hmm, also looks familiar.

My guess is the Otto - Doppeldecker

dook 8th Apr 2020 11:59

You're in the right country but this was a monoplane.

Jhieminga 10th Apr 2020 12:00


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10741687)
It's not often a challenge stands for a week.

But this one is heading in that same direction....
Focke-Wulf?

dook 10th Apr 2020 12:08

Not an Fw - this first flew in 1920.

Would you like a photographic clue ?

MReyn24050 10th Apr 2020 12:25


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10741687)
Thank you MReyn.

It's not often a challenge stands for a week.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bab5753b90.png

Judging by the modern instruments fitted then this aircraft is either a flyable vintage aircraft or it is a replica of it's type.Is it not?

dook 10th Apr 2020 12:43

First of all my apologies for the above date - it first flew in 1910

There has been one flying replica but I don't know if it is still airworthy.

The image is from a museum replica.

nvubu 10th Apr 2020 15:51

I'll have a guess at Etrich Taube

dook 10th Apr 2020 16:04

And a very good guess it is.

Your stage. :ok:

nvubu 10th Apr 2020 16:08

Way to go ... only my second cockpit guess !!!! Although your 1910 clue was the give away.

As it happens I do have one lined up :ok: - what else is there to do under lock down.

https://l6jt9q.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

Jhieminga 10th Apr 2020 17:08

Hurel-Dubois HD-34 I guess....

nvubu 10th Apr 2020 17:25

Bugger - I thought this one might be a stayer - Jhieminga has it with Hurel-Dubois HD-34

I'll retreat to the Aerodrome thread :}

https://zyu8og.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://zyu8og.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

https://qc3gug.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none

Jhieminga 11th Apr 2020 09:32

I saw the real thing at La Ferté Alais many years ago, but that strange contraption is hard to forget! ;)

Anyway, on to a new challenge:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d231806d0d.jpg

ea200 11th Apr 2020 10:00

The xpdr code suggests US (or at least operated there). Experimental?

Jhieminga 11th Apr 2020 19:05

Good question, but I’m going to play it safe and say: yes and no.

India Four Two 11th Apr 2020 21:27

ea200,

A minor observation. In the Great White North, we also use 1200 as the VFR code. We also use inches of mercury for pressure settings, but we differ from the US in many other respects, including putting leading zeros on runway numbers less than 10. :)

ea200 11th Apr 2020 23:15


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 10747091)
ea200,

A minor observation. In the Great White North, we also use 1200 as the VFR code. We also use inches of mercury for pressure settings, but we differ from the US in many other respects, including putting leading zeros on runway numbers less than 10. :)

Yes, I knew that you use 1200 but the code is 1204 which AFAIK is not used in the same way as it is in the US. Quite prepared to accept I might be wrong though. More research needed to
find the cockpit. Maybe tomorrow.

MReyn24050 12th Apr 2020 09:56

Has this aircraft a French Connection?. The yoke is very similar to that fitted to the Potez 63

Cubs2jets 12th Apr 2020 13:47

https://www.barnstormers.com/listing...php?id=1245455

I bow to MReyn24050

C2j

MReyn24050 12th Apr 2020 14:02


Originally Posted by Cubs2jets (Post 10747723)

Your show C2j, I only identified the type of control yoke.

Cubs2jets 12th Apr 2020 14:42

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2dff2e8cf8.jpg


Let's start with this.

C2j

Jhieminga 12th Apr 2020 16:40

I was still trying to come up with a suitably vague answer to your question Mreyn, but C2j found the subject aircraft.

Cubs2jets 13th Apr 2020 22:17

I guess you gents are all on the right side of the pond? While equipped slightly differently, the above panel is a distinct part of the cockpit.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....389de24e28.jpg

For the first 4 years of production, these instruments were additional cost upgrades. The panel they sit in could be blank, one hole in the center or two holes. The compass cost 15.63 and the airspeed 20.00. Oh, yes, an appropriate panel cost .37.

C2j

sycamore 13th Apr 2020 22:20

Could be a Cub....?

Cubs2jets 14th Apr 2020 02:21

Could be...

If so, which one?

Cub Coupe
Cub Cruiser
Cub Sport
Cub Trainer
J2
J3
J4
J5

C2j

Loose rivets 15th Apr 2020 01:59

Flight deck not so hard to recognise, but the mods. Surprising device.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....39a39d217f.jpg

Self loading bear 16th Apr 2020 23:33


Originally Posted by Cubs2jets (Post 10749230)
Could be...

If so, which one?

Cub Coupe
Cub Cruiser
Cub Sport
Cub Trainer
J2
J3
J4
J5

C2j

I think the Cub J3 comes closest



Originally Posted by Loose rivets (Post 10750300)
Flight deck not so hard to recognise, but the mods. Surprising device.

Loose rivets,
I cannot see any post in which the Cub challenge is awarded to you, but you have most certainly posted an interesting Cessna 172 cockpit.
I am not sure where you are after but I think it is an F-model.

Cubs2jets 17th Apr 2020 01:46

SLB you're smarter than the average bear. The 1937 -1940 J3 Cub.

You have control.

C2j

Self loading bear 17th Apr 2020 18:37

Thanks CtJ,

Perhaps we will receive closure from Loose Rivets later but we can continue with this challenge:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9e8a6dbd9.jpeg

Loose rivets 17th Apr 2020 22:23

Oh my goodness!!!!! That control grip. I bought one of those brand new in Lisle St with the intention of putting in my Jag which already had several mods - like pressing the gas down into the carpet kicked out the overdrive. There is no doubt, it's the exact one. 7/6, IIRC.




The cockpit mods are in a 172 https://www.pprune.org/aviation-hist...l#post10750300 operated by Col Carl Crane, and instrument flying pioneer. He lectured at eh USAF advanced instrument flying school - just telling the stories about the old days. They were jaw-dropping.

The brass cross was a patented device called 'The Nose Knows.' If you pinned the cross on a point on the runway, you'd arrive there.

The black box was a prototype blind landing system. As an invited tester, I did one blind landing after another over some weeks of early morning stints. Before San Antonio Tx became busy with the days traffic.


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Jhieminga 18th Apr 2020 09:18

Fokker S.14 Machtrainer, I’m guessing PH-XIV.

Self loading bear 18th Apr 2020 10:15

I already expected The quickest answer from your corner!
Fokker S14

All yours

Jhieminga 18th Apr 2020 15:29

Thanks!
S14Machtrainer_PHXIV_02092019 by Jelle Hieminga, on Flickr

And a new challenge, apologies for the small size of this image.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....56e29156f3.jpg

MReyn24050 18th Apr 2020 18:27

Looking at those control columns begs the question is this a rotary machine?

Jhieminga 19th Apr 2020 08:17

No, not a rotorcraft.

Self loading bear 22nd Apr 2020 18:54

Dashboard layout is a bit like Ryan SC-W but looks more modern.
Is it American?

Jhieminga 22nd Apr 2020 20:18

No, wrong side of the Atlantic.

mcdhu 23rd Apr 2020 08:27

Experimental aeroplane?

Jhieminga 23rd Apr 2020 19:46

No, not built for testing or as an experimental type.


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