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forget 11th Oct 2005 17:52

Bruegeot Atlantic. Remember the one which didn't quite make it over the Black Sheds? Sad.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...867-039378.jpg

This\'ll get you thinking ----


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...tled-39877.jpg

cringe 11th Oct 2005 19:35

NAMC YS-11A........

forget 11th Oct 2005 20:10

Ah so! Spot on Cringe. Sorry about the delay.

cringe 11th Oct 2005 20:23

How about this one:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk2.jpg

Tiger_mate 12th Oct 2005 08:19

I dont know but here are my thoughts in case they prompt anybody else.

Twin engined, likely to be a jet, with Martin Baker ejection seat pins. Why they are stowed rather than in the seat is a bit of a mystery. Pilot tends to keep boots on footwell rather than rudder pedals, may suggest the rear seat of a trainer albeit maybe OCU and therefore twin stick variant of front line.

Cockpit paint (lt grn) often associated with naval aircraft. RAF tend to be black overall, and those rivets would suggest late fifties or early sixties. Just out of picture at the top could be a radar scope which may suggest air defence role, likewise very pale gray (or white) on exterior.

Russian cabs could have those rivets, but they are normally blue inside.

Could be many, but Tiger Mate is baffled with this one. :confused:

foxmoth 12th Oct 2005 08:27

Not an office I know but looks fairly agricultural - "Gannet"?

cringe 12th Oct 2005 08:48

Excellent observations, Tiger_mate. Later than the 60s though.

foxmoth, it may look agricultural, but this type actually saw combat.

forget 12th Oct 2005 09:25

Pucara perchance?

cringe 12th Oct 2005 09:34

Sorry, no. It is named after a bird.

Brain Potter 12th Oct 2005 09:52

Soko J-22 Orao (eagle) ?

BEagle 12th Oct 2005 09:52

'Stormy Petrel on a stick'?

For Python enthusiasts.....

cringe 12th Oct 2005 10:35

Well done Brain Potter, it is the Orao! The photo(by Maciek Stanecki) might be of the trainer version.

Over to you now.

BEagle 12th Oct 2005 10:49

Well done indeed!

The 'bic pen green' colour indicated East European origins, but not Russian as no typical Russian attitude indicator. Obviously a twin-jet, but the Martin Baker seat had me stumped - hence the guess at L-39 Albatross although that seemed unlikely unless the seat used M-B pins!

Onan the Clumsy 12th Oct 2005 12:25

I was going to say something Russian because of the colour. I was basing this on a pic I saw of one of those Russian airliners with the perspex nose that looks a lot like a WWII bomber and had a big downward looking radar.

But anyway, I'm crap at this game (apart from the Japanese flying bomb :ok: )

Brain Potter 12th Oct 2005 13:19

Ok, what's this then?


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...nPotterr/2.jpg

Blimey - didn't realise that posting photos was so tricky!

Gainesy 12th Oct 2005 13:46

Looks like a Northrop F-5G, nee F-20,Tigershark.

Brain Potter 12th Oct 2005 14:47

Nope, but close!

treadigraph 12th Oct 2005 15:14

Can't see the photo, but if Gainesy is close, could it be the Grumman X-29, which I seem to recall used a F-20/F-5 cockpit and forward fuselage?

Gainesy 12th Oct 2005 15:16

Hmm, grumman X-29 then?:suspect:

EdAdd Should have refreshed the page before posting.

Brain Potter 12th Oct 2005 18:59

Yes it's an X-29.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ter-a-X-29.jpg

Once upon a time in a ground cat type interview, I was asked to comment on a model of an A320 which had forward swept wings fitted. The first thing that sprang to mind was - which way is it flying? :D

Over to Treadigraph I think....

treadigraph 12th Oct 2005 22:40

Down to Gainsey I think, without his suggestion I wouldn't have been any the wiser even if I could have seen the pic - which I can now! Complete guess on my part!

Anyway, I bet he's got some intriguing shots up his sleeve!

Gainesy 13th Oct 2005 08:16

Thanks Treaders, that row of switches was nagging me, probably for all the test gear.

I'll find something later if anyone would like to step in meantime?

forget 13th Oct 2005 08:28

Stepping in meantime.............

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...E2BHAWKEYE.jpg

diginagain 13th Oct 2005 08:39

Just a guess - E2B Hawkeye?
Or was I reading the photo properties wrong?

forget 13th Oct 2005 08:41

:\ How'd that happen? You win - for intitiative.

diginagain 13th Oct 2005 09:08

Sorry. I feel a bit of a fraud now.:O
I wish I had a snap to offer, but I'm a helicopter ride & long drive away from my home PC, so back to you guys.

forget 13th Oct 2005 09:23

Don't feel too bad. You spotted my first cock-up of the day.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...led-996854.jpg

Gainesy 13th Oct 2005 09:59

SA Twin Pioneer?

forget 13th Oct 2005 10:02

Not a Twin Pin.

Gainesy 13th Oct 2005 15:08

Handley Page Herald?

forget 13th Oct 2005 15:13

Full marks! Herald it is. Incidentally, the instrument panel is from Handley Page Herald 100 G-APWA, the Museum of Berkshire Aviation- and it looks to be a first class job.

http://aeroflt.users.netlink.co.uk/m...kshireavtn.htm


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/77914.jpg

Gainesy 13th Oct 2005 15:33

Right then, try this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...y/scan0001.jpg

(Sorry, can't place it direct @ moment.)

forget 13th Oct 2005 16:21

Tupolev Tu-142?

Gainesy 13th Oct 2005 16:41

No..................................................

Tarnished 13th Oct 2005 18:22

An 124?


Curtained doorway under centre console makes me suspect a double decker of some sort.

T

Tarnished 13th Oct 2005 19:12

So is gainsey being picky by saying No........................ to Tu 142?

How about a Tu 95?

Tiger_mate 13th Oct 2005 21:01

Looks like a TU142M to me??????????
http://www.spmodelismo.com.br/howto/...alk-007-21.jpg
.........and if it isnt, it is something with an identical cockpit!
http://www.spmodelismo.com.br/howto/...alk-007-29.jpg
No central thottle quadrant is an interesting concept of a 4 engined aircraft. You would need hands like a Russian, but then again................

(Right click & "properties" for credits)

forget 13th Oct 2005 21:45

TU-95 (Quietly)

Tiger_mate 14th Oct 2005 06:26

TU-95s do have a (communal) throttle quadrant in the centre.

Gainesy 14th Oct 2005 08:41

Tarnished takes the trophy, Tu-95.

(Not being pedantic but I have no idea what a Tu-142 cockpit looks like).:)


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