The lack of controls and the lack of instruments suggests it could be a glider of some sort.....
... but there I run out of ideas. A'B |
aerobelly - I think that there is a fuel system, given the copper piping and the plunger, plus the levers on the port side look as if they could be throttle & mixture controls...
At least I would be worried if they were my trimmer and airbrakes on a glider! Also it looks as if there WERE some more instruments - there's at least a couple of likely-looking holes in the "panel". Is it in the UK? One of Short Bros? |
Well I'd speculate that the piping is from the pitot, and that the plunger/pump (is that a pressure gauge next to it?) is for the u/c. Assume that the missing instuments are airspeed and attitude (could just be turn and bank), and that's about what you'd need for a non-soaring glider. Controls? Stick, rudder, release tow, drop u/c, either flaps or air-brake. That matches what we can see.
It's what we can't see that shoots my theory down. A'B. |
Well.I think it`s something pre-`14-18 war,judging by the air-ventilated seat, probable fuel tank pressurisation pump and two levers for air and fuel, probably rotary, and as they disappear upwards, likely to be a pusher (cables-not push-pull-rods). Which may make it a `Longhorn` or a Vickers `Gunbus`, or something of that era,,,or maybe not!!!!!!
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Thought we had a bunch of modern fliers here, and a lack of real stiknruda men. :) Take away all that glass and replace it with a bare bones plane and no-more "it's an ATR-42B with widget spong attachment." No!
Well, that's not really fair as it is a toughy. :p Some answers containing some clues: MrG. - neither Sanders Roe (it's too early) nor Italian. Bus429. - Tsk, tsk. The Blackburn B-2 is famously an 'all metal' (apart from the fabric wing covering :} ) design, so as it's a wooden a/c, no. Also the B-2 is a lot later. Mike J. - No, completely wrong, but good logic. One of your thoughts is correct, but not the location or the aircraft, so you must have the type right. PruneRadar - see the other answers and you haven't hit the right country yet. Aerobelly - Not a glider, unles the engine fails. Saab Dastard's work is right, up to the point where we guess at the country and maker, both of which are wrong. :p So aerobelly's next post is founded on a couple of incorrect premises, one it's a glider (it aint) and the second that it might have a retractable undercarriage. Aircraft of this period are famous for their non-retractable undercarriages, and lack of brakes, and this one doesn't have wheels either, because it don't need 'em. (Nor a skid.) Sycamore's doing as well, but it's not a rotary, it is a pusher, but it's not British and it's not a pre-War example as it's in military colours. Syks other guesses are bang on. Clues. It's in Europe, not Germany, nor France, Britain or Italy. It's a biplane, no wheels, no skid. It did have instruments (now missing). It's got rudder stripes for its country's air force of the period, one colour being black. :E |
So, is it a seaplane, once in service with the Belgian military?
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'Kin hell .. that was hard.
Schreck FBA.H in the Belgique Musée Royal de l'Armée et d'Histoire Militaire. :) |
There is a gorgeous wooden flying boat of a similar (or earlier?) vintage in (I think) the RAF museum at Hendon - anyone jog my memory for the name?
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It might be their Supermarine Southampton. Fuselage only, no wings or engines.
Hendon Guess we can't use this one in the competition now ;) Southampton cockpit Hopefully not quite as tricky as the last one !!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Flying/b29.jpg |
From a purely ergonomic viewpoint, it must surely be British, what with having a really good layout.:ok:
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sorry
Me410, ex St Athan, now Cosford. |
Jahwohl JDK !!! :)
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PPruneRadar is Correk, with an able assist by diginagain.
Well done chaps. And there's a lot harder in the Museum - I coul'dve been eaven meaner! This is wot it looks like: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/Hydro1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/Hydro2.jpg Goody. My go! OK, lotsa dials for the bus driver brigade. As I\'ve fiercely cropped the pic, there\'s a clue in that it\'s a twin and dual control type. Off we go! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...2/Mystery4.jpg |
An HP product? Perhaps a Herald?
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Hi Bus,
Saucy! No. :D |
I've never seen one, but how about a Mossie, and what's the U/c seen through the windsreen ???
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Possibly a Dove??
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Jinda, if it was a Dove, wouldn't we be able to hear the belching and wheezing of the brake system???
VT |
Pembroke/Sea Prince?
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Freddy Laker's Aviation Trader's Accountant.......
................and the U/C through the window - Piston Provost. |
diginagain is correct!
The interior of Air Atlantique Classic Flight's machine (which you can go for a flight in too...) This type has a different undercarriage setup to 'normal' - anyone? The undercarriage through the window, not surprisingly for the grass at AA Coventry, features a Dak (for shame misidentifiers) which is cropped so, because its the example with the huge radar bulge on the underside - a unique machine and a dead givaway. Digin's call. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...2/JDKPe001.jpg |
Regrets........
.........but since I'm (supposedly) at work, resources are a little thin on the ground.
If someone else has a suitable picture, I promise not to play for at least 12 hours - I'm just going off watch! BTW, great thread. keep it up. dig. |
OK, here's one to be getting along with, then I too will duck out for a while!
A real aryplane, passangers, red, open cockpit, pleasure flights available... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...2/Mystery8.jpg |
Is it a Super Waco?
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MJ - I'm pretty sure the Pitts has an enclosed cockpit with a canopy.
I'm sure Cringe is right - that bevelled panel is a giveaway! |
looks like a stearman to me but for the front screen.
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Cringe is close, but I'm looking for letters - and it's not registered as a Waco.
It's a three seater: 'passengers' is a clue. You can have a go if you like though! |
YMF-F5C ?
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It's Cringe's. :)
Manufacturer: CLASSIC AIRCRAFT CORP Model: YMF Reg: VH-MLX |
This is only a test. (Don't blame me for the image - it's an original brochure shot)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/barit1/p51agd.jpg |
Looks like one of Gerry Anderson's creations :D
Stingray? ;) |
I'll let another guess or two fall off the edge before I tell you the background view - which may be a clue.
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Looks very DeHavilland to me.
DH 95 Flamingo? |
The background is Chicago Midway Field c.1940. Right outside the final assembly hangar.
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A Stinson Trimotor, or is 1940 a tad late for one of those ?
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Cooo. I admit to being baffled, even with the clue. I'd go for US (I'd have said 1930s, so later than I thought) single engined (not enough widgets for multiple) radial, (cos they din't do anything else really)... But then the brane stop.
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Lockheed Vega perhaps?
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It's one of these:http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...t1/thext-1.jpg
(Not too many across the pond!) Another clue (from spotter's corner): There was once a Bendix Trophy racer who flew halfway across the US with flaps 15 (takeoff position) - and won in spite of it! |
Still looks like a Vega to me.
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OK - just so you don't lose any more sleep: It's the Howard DGA-15. Derived from Benny Howard's "Mister Mulligan" (DGA-6) racer, which is the only airplane in racing history to take first place in both the Bendix (cross-country) and Thompson (closed-course) races. And did both in the same year - 1935.
Extra points if you know what DGA stands for. (You'll find it in JB) |
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