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Tiger_mate 27th Dec 2005 17:05

The control column looks like those used by Boscombe Down to record stick forces when an internal load is booted out during flight.

I remember on the "Test Pilot" TV series a C130 deploying a JCB and the pilot had to use full right turn before re-centreing to maintain "level" flight.

Saab Dastard 27th Dec 2005 17:46

Well Harrier, it aint!

Go on, John gis a clue ;)

John Farley 27th Dec 2005 18:41

cringe never needs a clue so I propose to give her incredible abilities a chance to put us all to shame first....

FJJP 27th Dec 2005 20:34

It looks like a hotch-pot of bits and pieces added here and there. I'm wondering if it is a cockpit development rig - obviously spaces for glass cockpit components, but the bits on the control yoke look like add-ons to test-try positions for the various buttons needed for minute-to-minute use [radio, autopilot cut-out, etc].

Possibly for the Airbus?

Tiger_mate 27th Dec 2005 21:05

There is little thought gone into streamlining of the window frames, so I would say fifties / early sixties. Had the side window had bars on it I would have said the Tay Viscount, either way a prototype or evaluation aircraft is most likely. 2 engines, and my gut feeling now is that they are props. Most civilian aircraft even then had a yoke protruding from the consol rather than a joystick, so it may well be a military test aeroplane. The seat even look they could be a bang seat with the yellow pin stowage up by the window.

After some absence, its nice to come back to a real challenge. Reckon the picture originates from a very old slide, and the nearest guess at this time is a Jetstream prototype.

Saab Dastard 27th Dec 2005 22:20

Yes, but just look at the STATE of the windscreen! It's an absolute disgrace! You pilots are all the same - leave it to the next person to clean it up! ;)

cringe 28th Dec 2005 07:56

Is it a variant of CASA CN-235 ?

John Farley 28th Dec 2005 10:00

Very well done madam.

I knew I could rely on you! How did you sus it?

The cockpit pic and the one below were taken in 1992 at Surabya. The aircraft reg was PK-MNJ. As Tiger suggested the wheel and orange wiring stuff was fitted for some particular flight trials where we needed to measure control forces. The aircraft was quite an early one from the IPTN line (about No 6 I think) and the definitive cockpit layout for the Merpati batch had not quite settled down then.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ley/CN2353.jpg

cringe 28th Dec 2005 10:49

Well, initially the CN-235 seemed too new, so I first learned what the mystery cockpit wasn't. :)

Please, someone else have the next go.

Mr_Grubby 28th Dec 2005 16:59

Shorts SC 5 Belfast


Clint.

Mr_Grubby 28th Dec 2005 17:41

It's G-HLFT of Heavylift, taken at Hamburg, July 12th 2002.


Clint.

Mr_Grubby 29th Dec 2005 08:09

I am away for the next few days so somebody else please take my turn.


Clint.

Genghis the Engineer 29th Dec 2005 11:01

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The general type is easy, but the hardened identifier should get registration, configuration, and for a bonus virtual mars-bar, which PPruner (not me) was the project test pilot.


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Genghis the Engineer 29th Dec 2005 11:17

Oh blast, both my usual repositories of photos seem to have modified things so that you have to be a member to read them.

Try this.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...Prototype2.jpg

Or larger photo...

http://photobucket.com/albums/c49/Ge...=Prototype.jpg

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Genghis the Engineer 29th Dec 2005 11:36

Not even warm Mike.

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forget 29th Dec 2005 12:39

Just a rough guess on the run. Thruster T600.

Genghis the Engineer 29th Dec 2005 12:57

Well done, that's the generic type.

Configuration and registration anybody?

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forget 29th Dec 2005 13:04

Genghis, I have to tell you that, until 20 minutes ago, I wouldn't know a Thruster T600 from a slap on the back of the head. I'm soooooo chuffed with my detective work.:p

Genghis the Engineer 29th Dec 2005 13:21

Still a little out Mike - the photo is of a prototype with some fascinating pecularities that you CAN see in the cockpit, but (to date) haven't appeared on any production aeroplanes. However, it's been seen around airshows and had magazine articles written about it, so I'm not being particularly unfair (I think).

Incidentally, there are several flavours of T600 - the one you've posted is a T600N Sprint - N because it has a nosewheel (T is taildragger) and Sprint because it has an enclosed back end - unlike the one below which is a plain T600T (.

http://www.aardvark-aviation.com/g-mzkt.jpg

So, configuration, registration and pilot anybody?

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forget 29th Dec 2005 13:46

While we're looking for Ghengis' configuration,
registration and pilot, I'm claiming the cigar.

This ought to see us into 2006, unless cringe is lurking around.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/96857.jpg


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