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MReyn24050 3rd Jan 2006 09:20

Re: What Cockpit ?
 
Northrop N9M Flying Wing perhaps.

Genghis the Engineer 3rd Jan 2006 09:43

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The N9M is a delta!

G

MReyn24050 3rd Jan 2006 10:06

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Genghis
Must disageee with you there Genghis. It is not a true delta, more like two swept wings joined at the centre line. I will give you the Chord at the centre is boarder than at the tips but in comparison to the Vulcan and Javelin I would not call it a delta.

From Wikipedia

"The delta-wing is a wing planform in the form of a triangle, named after the Greek uppercase delta (letter) which is a triangle (Δ). Its use in the so called "tailless delta", i.e. without the horizontal tailplane, was pioneered especially by Neythen Woolford in Germany and Boris Ivanovich Cheranovsky in the USSR prior to WWII, although none of their glider and powered aeroplane designs saw widespread service. Among the first engineers to use delta wings in their projects was the 17th century Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth inventor, Kazimierz Siemienowicz."


Mel

cringe 3rd Jan 2006 10:40

Re: What Cockpit ?
 
No, not the N9M and not American.

MReyn24050 3rd Jan 2006 11:32

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Perhaps the Horton HO IX/Gotha GO229?

cringe 3rd Jan 2006 12:03

Re: What Cockpit ?
 
It wasn't a flying wing design. The programme ended when the only example crashed after less than 10 flights.

Genghis the Engineer 3rd Jan 2006 13:05

Re: What Cockpit ?
 

Originally Posted by cringe
It wasn't a flying wing design. The programme ended when the only example crashed after less than 10 flights.

A better score than some flying wings !

It's a moot point as to whether a non-straight trailing edge stops an aircraft being a (tailless) delta, but this probably isn't the place to debate it. I'd just say that in my experience the aerodynamics are pretty much the same.


Back to the question - bit of a longshot, but is it possibly a Jurca prototype?

G

MReyn24050 3rd Jan 2006 13:27

Re: What Cockpit ?
 
Just another stab in the dark - Avrocar? Canada's attempt to build a flying saucer

jabberwok 3rd Jan 2006 13:38

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Puzzling..

So,

1. It's not British or American
2. It was experimental,a one off job, and lasted less than 10 flights.
3. It had a special wing but this was not a flying wing.
4. It was from the early 1960's era.
5. Looking at the cockpit it was quite small.

Was it French?

cringe 3rd Jan 2006 13:55

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Yup, French. It should be easier now. :)

Genghis the Engineer 3rd Jan 2006 14:26

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I was thinking Dassault Balzac, but that's a Delta (plus that cockpit looks far too ergonomic to be a Mirage variant).

So, SNECMA C.450-01 Coléoptère with an annular wing perchance?

http://www.unrealaircraft.com/gravit...s/snecma1.jpeg

G

cringe 3rd Jan 2006 15:06

Re: What Cockpit ?
 
Yes, it was the odd-looking Coléoptère. :ok: Your turn, Genghis.

Cockpit photo from:
http://modelbox.free.fr/photoscopes/Coleo_Phot

Genghis the Engineer 3rd Jan 2006 15:20

Re: What Cockpit ?
 
Haha, thank you- although don't think any of us would ever have got their without the clues. However, best somebody else has a go, I'm waiting for my scanner to come back from being repaired.

G

Mr_Grubby 3rd Jan 2006 16:44

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Not too difficult I think.

Clint.



http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gur.../cockpit-4.jpg

jabberwok 3rd Jan 2006 17:32

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Well done Ghengis - I thought it was that brute but I was still digging through my books to find the name..

Mr Grubby - a guess but maybe a Storch or the Morane version?

Genghis the Engineer 3rd Jan 2006 17:36

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I'd say Russian, fixed wing piston-prop trainer, 2 or 4 seats, probably aerobatic.

Not the mythical and long-lost Yak-20 is it? (I'm probably wrong, Yak don't usually use green paint in the cockpit).

G

Mr_Grubby 3rd Jan 2006 17:38

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jabberwok,
nope, sorry.

Genghis,
No.

185skywagon 3rd Jan 2006 21:29

Re: What Cockpit ?
 
Is it a PZL Wilga??

Mr_Grubby 3rd Jan 2006 23:57

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185skywagon.

Correct Sir !
Over to you.


Clint.

185skywagon 4th Jan 2006 00:13

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Wahoo.
this is a boring cessna one, but which model.
http://www.skywagons.org/gallery/alb...0468.sized.jpg


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