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Matthew 7.7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye. shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
My first thought was the Ikarus Orkan, but I continued to knock on airwar.ru and now possibly the Nuri Demirag NuD-38? They list it under WWII military transport.
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Now 24 hours is up, I can confirm that Noyade is correct with the Nuri Demirag Nu D-38. The first Turkish passenger carrying aircraft built in the early 1940's. Four passengers. Effectively killed off by WW2, not least because it used Siemens engines.
Noyade has control.
Noyade has control.
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Came across a pic of a mildly crashed Italian cabin biplane (?) in a 35 year old copy of Pilot the other day. Editorial staff (probably the late Mike Jerram) didn't know what it was and neither do I. When I get an opportunity and am at home long enough, I'll snap it and stick it on here, see if anyone has a clue.
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OK, this is described as a biplane, though it's hard to be certain, it nosed over after making a forced landing in the Dolomites, probably winter 1986/87. Pic appeared in the May 1987 Pilot. I've no idea... anybody?
Later that summer various Cubs and Tiger Moths visited the UK for the Tiger Club airshow at Redhill and I vaguely recall at least one of the Cubs may have had a similar colour scheme. I think they had something to with a mountain flying club?
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I was thinking along the lines of the humble high wing Piper (Caribbean?) with some optical illusions happening? Lower fuselage shadows mimicking a wing? Collapsed nose wheel and undercart? The back part of the 'N' strut could be artwork on the fuselage forward of the registration? And similar angles in the rear cabin glass.
Just random thoughts
I was thinking along the lines of the humble high wing Piper (Caribbean?) with some optical illusions happening? Lower fuselage shadows mimicking a wing? Collapsed nose wheel and undercart? The back part of the 'N' strut could be artwork on the fuselage forward of the registration? And similar angles in the rear cabin glass.
Just random thoughts
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A Pacer or even a Maule M4 was one of my thoughts but it does appear significantly different - back of the right hand rear window appears to curve similar to a Cub's (left side is hidden by strut), rear of middle window appears to lean forward, fin is squatter - though granted it may have been remodelled by the inversion! Pretty sure that is an "N" strut and presumably James Gilbert and Mike Jerram had a better quality pic to squint at, rather than off-set litho grey scale patterns! 
Apparently it was circling a skiing world championship giant slalom race when the engine failed, possibly carb icing?
Apparently it was circling a skiing world championship giant slalom race when the engine failed, possibly carb icing?
Any idea on the Operator?
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The following link, https://www.aerodata.it/air_crashes.htm, list aircraft crashes in Italy around 1987. At the head of the list for 1987 is a Piper PA19/L-22. Looking at the photograph above I am sure that is a tailwheel at the rear of the aircraft.
think you are correct MR
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Definitely a tailwheel but not an L-18. Assuming it was Italian registered - the reg may have been touched out, but why not the titles? - but it may well be from somewhere else, possibly an American 3" reg which were still evident on some light aircraft some years after the 12" requirement was reinstated.
I found a pic of the Italian Cubs I mentioned being at Redhill in 1987, their schemes were quite different!
My feeling is it's a one off homebuilt, possibly a write off despite the damage appearing to be modest.
I found a pic of the Italian Cubs I mentioned being at Redhill in 1987, their schemes were quite different!
My feeling is it's a one off homebuilt, possibly a write off despite the damage appearing to be modest.
There was at least one biplane/sesquiplane cub conversion available as an STC in the states.
But it retained the normal wing struts, which are not visible in Treadi's pic and I do not know if any made their way to Europe or if anybody else carried out a similar conversion
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But it retained the normal wing struts, which are not visible in Treadi's pic and I do not know if any made their way to Europe or if anybody else carried out a similar conversion
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