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Old 3rd Nov 2022, 11:39
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Interesting! Following up the Aeromod Loadstar Model 100 led to the Miller Bipe C which sorta looks similar, but with Pitts-style struts and different back windows. Hmmmm...

While you are all mulling that over, here's another "what is it?"; quite by chance I happened on this image I thought lost for all time on an old memory card just now. I took it at Paul Nalson's aircraft scrapyard by the North Downs Way nearly 20 years ago. Somebody on PPRuNe had seen it and asked if anybody knew what it was, so I trudged up for a squizz on an October Saturday afternoon and took the pic. Again, I've no idea and I don't think we found the solution back then. Anybody?


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Old 3rd Nov 2022, 15:29
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Almost looks a little early Firecracker - ish Treadi
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Old 5th Nov 2022, 18:18
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Image seems to have disappeared??
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Old 5th Nov 2022, 23:07
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Still on my screen!
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I understand that there were about 18 submissions for the Air Staff Target 412, which led to the purchase of the Tucano, Was this possibly one of them?
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Old 6th Nov 2022, 07:44
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Maybe the Turbo Firecracker?

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Old 6th Nov 2022, 07:53
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Definitely not the Firecracker! My guess is a homebuilt one-off design. There is something familiar about it. I vaguely recall a last letter registration "Q" being visible on the rear fuselage. Possibly a US or French design imported into the UK which didn't meet PFA/CAA permit requirements...?
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
Definitely not the Firecracker! My guess is a homebuilt one-off design. There is something familiar about it. I vaguely recall a last letter registration "Q" being visible on the rear fuselage. Possibly a US or French design imported into the UK which didn't meet PFA/CAA permit requirements...?
Maybe an early Glasair? Or a Valmet L70?

I did think Zlin but can;t get a decent match
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Old 8th Nov 2022, 20:44
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
Definitely not the Firecracker! My guess is a homebuilt one-off design. There is something familiar about it. I vaguely recall a last letter registration "Q" being visible on the rear fuselage. Possibly a US or French design imported into the UK which didn't meet PFA/CAA permit requirements...?
Surely far too complex for a homebuilt?
Those l/e wing fillets, never seen on a homebuilt. The wing ribs in the wing are 3d pressed, never home-made. The canopy is far too complex.
That's an industrially produced aircraft or I'm a Dutchman!
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Old 8th Nov 2022, 21:11
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It was the wing fillets and canopy that prompted me to say 'Early Firecracker - ish '
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Old 9th Nov 2022, 09:07
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The fillets are quite narrow, only a foot or two, the Firecracker's are rather wider like a Cherokee. It's got elements of lots of the suggestions but nothing gels! I know Paul Nalson supplies aircraft for films and I did wonder if it is a "bitsa" put together for something but it does look to sophisticated. The Ryson Cloudster crossed my mind but nope, nothing like really, plus only one was built.

Perhaps I should email him and see if he would be kind enough to supply the solution!
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Can we consider this challenge parked along with this monstrosity that Bear found but no-one, not even him could ID
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Old 13th Nov 2022, 16:12
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Absolutely, I had meant to post something to that effect and have been distracted. Still may send Paul an email. Actually only about a mile from his premises right now.
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Old 14th Nov 2022, 08:31
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Thanks - I've put in my "unknown" folder - in teh hope that one day.....

lets try this to restart normal ops


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Old 15th Nov 2022, 14:39
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Did Bear ever get an answer from Sisteron about F-WLDE?
I contacted Hirth yesterday in the hope they might know but they said they'd put it around but no-one recognised it.
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Old 15th Nov 2022, 16:57
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Don't think so - he'd have told us for sure
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Old 15th Nov 2022, 17:19
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Sisteron was not willing to help because of privacy reasons.
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Old 16th Nov 2022, 07:22
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Originally Posted by Self loading bear
Sisteron was not willing to help because of privacy reasons.
the standard response which means "I can't be bothered to help you mate - here's a ready made excuse" - clearly not a Total Aviation Person

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Old 16th Nov 2022, 11:45
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I'm convinced that's an attempt at a homebuilt glider tug. The cabin doesn't look big enough for two, there appears to be a rope attached to the tail - and what else would you want 130 - 200BHP for in a tiny aircraft like that? I'd be surprised if it ever got certificated with unfeathering props, as someone observed earlier with an engine failure it's be on its back as quick as a dockyard tart.
Someone in the gliding world must know...do they have a good forum? I haven't found one yet.
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well we thrashed it to death originally and never go there - back to a known (if obscure ) aircraft




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