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Here is a read only link to the Aerodrome Database - WhichAerodrome.xlsx. Up to date as of 1/5/2019. Catching up slowly - up to May 2019 now (Mar 2020).

Here are some "rules" for Which Aerodrome. These are based upon the original suggestions from the very first thread, and have a few additions. Also please be patient as when you are active others may be asleep.
  • A historic picture of an aerodrome will be posted. Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.
  • The person who correctly identifies it will be declared the 'winner' by the original poster.
  • That winner shall either post another challenge or declare the floor open. Anyone may then post the next challenge.
  • If the winner of the challenge does not respond to the notification of their success within 48 hours, an Open house can be declared when there is consensus between multiple other posters which are on line.
  • When the poster of a challenge does not respond within 48 hours of a posted answer, this poster can be declared winner if the answer is considered correct in a consensus of multiple other posters.
  • If Open House is declared, regular posters should not jump in immediately, but time should be given for those who are not great at naming the correct location as they may have some good images.
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  • Try to post images that are not already present on internet, as Google Image Search will find them if they are.
  • Personal photos are acceptable as they show the aerodrome as it is now.
  • When confirming the correct location, the location and winner should be stated to negate any deletion of posts.
  • Please don't delete your posts, let everyone see your successes, failures and challenges.
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 09:12
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The first Calgary Municipal Airport, in Renfrew.

I am trying to find anything that matches to the above photo - as "several of the hangars still exist and are in use today, even though the area has been converted to a residential neighbourhood" - have found the Rutledge Hangar.

Just realised the swimming pool isn't

Just found this aerial on Flickr - and there's another of Rutledge hangar - clicky



You might be interested in this about Calgary - also other Pathe News (without the music)

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nvubu, very well done.

I was confused by your swimming pool reference, until I realized you were referring to my obfuscation.



I found the photo when I was researching Lincoln Park for my previous post. I was vaguely aware that there used to be an airport in the Renfrew Area, but I was stunned to discover that the hangar still existed. Since the Flickr photos in your post were taken, it has been nicely restored and is used by the Boys and Girls Club.





The Rutledge Hangar is listed in the Historic Places of Canada:

Heritage Value

The heritage value of the Rutledge Hangar lies in its representation of early twentieth century construction techniques for airplane hangars. Secondary value lies in its association with the establishment of commercial aviation in Calgary.

Calgary's Rutledge Hangar embodies a common construction method for early twentieth century airport hangars in Canada. The building is defined by its 80 foot span "Lamella Arch" composed of dimensioned Douglas fir planks arranged in a pattern of diamond-shaped frames. This framing system rests upon a reinforced concrete foundation and is laterally strengthened by exterior concrete buttresses. The simplicity of the design and the basic building materials made construction relatively easy: erecting the hangar took only three weeks and was completed without any sophisticated machinery. Though lightweight, the "Lamella Arch" was provided with robust stability through the reinforcing concrete elements. The current appearance of the hangar includes several more recent additions, including the two structures located at the east and west ends of the original building. The Rutledge Hangar is the last known extant example of this method of hangar construction in Alberta.
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I hadn't heard of the Lamella Arch before. It's a beautiful, elegant design. This photo is not of the Rutledge Hangar, but it shows the simplicity of the construction:



I hadn't seen your image before. Where did you find it? The viewpoint is equivalent to a two-mile final for 35L at the International Airport. Nose Creek, in the foreground, has been "canalized" and today, runs in a straight channel, parallel to the railway, in order to make room for the Deerfoot Trail freeway, which now occupies the rest of the valley floor.

How on earth did you find this aerodrome so quickly?

Thanks for the video links. Very nostalgic for me - about the time I first came to Calgary. Trolley buses and DC-8s. That takes me back!

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Old 27th Dec 2016, 13:32
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How on earth did you find this aerodrome so quickly?
Bit of luck really, i first started searching for 1920s canada airfield - bur couldn't find any with a swimming pool Then I remembered this from your previous aerodrome
I thought my location would have been a give away!
So I thought to search (using Bing as I avoid Google if possible) in Calgary again and on the YYC Histoy page there is this
YYC Calgary International Airport has come a long way since its inception in 1914. Situated in Bowness, 10 kilometres from the city, the original airfield was comprised of a grass airstrip and a ramshackle hut, which served as both hangar and terminal building.

The Calgary Municipal Airport at Renfrew was established in 1928. Several of the hangars still exist and are in use today, even though the area has been converted to a residential neighbourhood. In 1938, the facility moved to its present location in Calgary's northeast and was christened McCall Field, in honour of Captain Fred McCall, a World War I flying ace and one of Calgary's pioneer aviators.
I couldn't find any likely images of Bowness, but the ramshakle hut didn't inspire confidence, then I looked for Calgary Municipal Airport - nothing, added Renfrew, and bingo, second image.
I followed this image down to the cbc website and subsequently tried to find the "several of the hangers still exist" hence the initial request for orientation.

Finally, I managed to notice the first image in the bing list - leads to a flickr site - it's the image before the link to the hangar.
There's an image of Bowness on the cbc website.

I also found the following images

Society of Alberta - click on the links of the left for more images
Post No 7 here pointed me towards the Glenbow Museum - but the images in the links had gone
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May I present the next challenge:


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I normally haven't a clue as to where these aerodromes are. And, this is no exception - other than I have an inkling that it might be a French Air Force field somewhere in the North East of France at about the time of The 1st. world war. Other than that, I'm stumped.
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Welcome to the party kcockayne.

2 things correct
In France
1st World War

2 things incorrect
Not in NE France
Not French


I hadn't a clue when I first started on these. Still haven't on some.
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Colombey les Belles - too far east, correct force though.
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I did think this challenge would last a little longer, so extremely well done Jenkins - Issoudun Aerodrome - home of the 3rd Air Instructional Center - it is. I'm going to create a separate thread about it as if I post extra historical photos here, some may have a bit of a moan.

At one point this was the largest aerodrome in the world, and today there is nothing left at all to indicate that flying took place at all - apart from this memorial on the D960 to the NW of the town:




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Re the Issoudun photos. Checking my TAP credentials.

Mainly Nieuport 12s with an 11 at the gas pump?
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won't last long.....

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In the UK? ......
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This Sceptered isle indeed....................
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Bodmin, I think?
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Indeed - although Ryanair refer to it as Bristol SW or Boston E.....................

Over to Cows..................
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Thank you. How about this cheeky little number? The runway orientation is roughly East/West.

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I thought it might be Inisheer but it's not quite right................
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I'll throw caution to the wind & reveal my ignorance - La Gomera.
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No, not La Gomera but you are in the correct ocean.
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I reckon it's in Ireland or Scotland
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Inis Meain.

Chiarain.
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