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Here is a read only link to the Aerodrome Database - WhichAerodrome.xlsx. Up to date as of 1/5/2019. Catching up slowly - up to May 2019 now (Mar 2020).

Here are some "rules" for Which Aerodrome. These are based upon the original suggestions from the very first thread, and have a few additions. Also please be patient as when you are active others may be asleep.
  • A historic picture of an aerodrome will be posted. Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.
  • The person who correctly identifies it will be declared the 'winner' by the original poster.
  • That winner shall either post another challenge or declare the floor open. Anyone may then post the next challenge.
  • If the winner of the challenge does not respond to the notification of their success within 48 hours, an Open house can be declared when there is consensus between multiple other posters which are on line.
  • When the poster of a challenge does not respond within 48 hours of a posted answer, this poster can be declared winner if the answer is considered correct in a consensus of multiple other posters.
  • If Open House is declared, regular posters should not jump in immediately, but time should be given for those who are not great at naming the correct location as they may have some good images.
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  • Try to post images that are not already present on internet, as Google Image Search will find them if they are.
  • Personal photos are acceptable as they show the aerodrome as it is now.
  • When confirming the correct location, the location and winner should be stated to negate any deletion of posts.
  • Please don't delete your posts, let everyone see your successes, failures and challenges.
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 18:13
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Trust you Ted to sneak one in while I was sleeping! I would have recognized Point Cook (or to acknowledge your point, half of RAAF Williams) instantly. Does this count?
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Yes. You can have the next 'OPEN HOUSE'.
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Thanks, that was an interesting search. It was a bit of luck that Point Cook is the first named airfield on the Aus government page here. We were at Werribee a few pages back as well, so I'd looked at the area in general.

My next offering is a real Which Aerodrome as I don't know where it is, but thought it was worth posting as it's another huge panorama and time for some sleuthing, and hopefully we'll come to a consensus.



Here's the full sized image

There is a copyright symbol bottom left - Huddleston Photo Co Los Angeles Cal. The source document captions this "6 military blimps with crews", but they are observation balloons rather than blimps.

I've done some research on possible locations, but I'd like to read other opinions.


Edit to add: I now do think I know where it is

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I found this photo with a little searching on 'US military balloons', and getting past the early days of civil war stuff.


The buildings in the background seem to match,



so I'll go for the Arcadia Balloon School at Ross Field.

Opened in 1918, the Arcadia Balloon School was built to train U.S. Army balloon observation troops for World War I. Before any graduates arrived in Europe, the war ended.

In November 1918, the base was renamed Ross Field, honoring Lt. Cleo J. Ross of the U.S. Army 8th Balloon Company, killed in action in France.

U.S. Army balloon operations continued at Ross Field for a few years, but by the mid-1920s, the base was closed
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That's the one.


I found part of my photo on the "Water and Power Associates" website - and what an interesting page that turned out to be, and once you know where it is, the Abandoned & Little known airfields has more info here


Over to you.
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Thank you. That was an interesting bit of history.

Do you ever feel like being a (not so modern) major-general?
Here is the field manual for operating military balloons.
http://www.tommy1418.com/uploads/1/2...s-usa-1917.pdf
MILITARY OBSERVATION BALLOONS (CAPTIVE AND FREE)
A COMPLETE TREATISE ON THEIR MANUFACTURE, EQUIPMENT, INSPECTION, AND HANDLING, WITH SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS
FOR THE TRAINING OF A FIELD BALLOON COMPANY
Nothing handy right now, so I''l declare 'OPEN HOUSE'

(so Dora-9 can get his prize for knowing all about RAAF Williams. )
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Old 20th Dec 2016, 12:42
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Interesting book - also great list of books to read at the end of the document. Ones I checked are still available.

Looking forward to Dora-9's submission
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Sorry team, it will have to be OPEN HOUSE for me (trying to land me in it, Ted?)
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Here's an easy one that might keep things going until the solstice*:



* 10:44 UTC on Wednesday - the days will be getting longer again.

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Looks N American to me?
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Looks N American to me?
That's because it is!
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 16:44
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Boundary Bar in Vancouver has a similar look & feel, so in Canada?
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Yes, in Canada.

That BCATP double-runway triangular layout is very distinctive.
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nvubu,

I don't want you to get eyestrain, poring over GE, so I should tell you that this aerodrome is almost unrecognisable today.
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Been out this evening. Was checking Saskatchewan earlier, lots of similar looking aerodromes, but all seemed to have 6 hangers. Will carry on in the morning - unless someone else gets it first.
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Thanks for the BCATP clue....
I have found only...
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... to check. Simples!

(and that is before I get into the specialist lists).

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Terry,

I wouldn't want to make it too easy for an expert like you!

I thought I had already given away too much.

As a favour to you, I'll tell you there is no need to look at the specialist lists.
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Is this the #3 Service training school south of Calgary?
Long-time "lurker", but this is my first post...!
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No. 3 Service Flying Training School and No. 10 Repair Depot, Calgary. I think called RCAF Station Lincoln Park?
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That's it, well done!

http://www.bombercommandmuseum.ca/bcatpcalgary.html

The picture is looking towards the SE, with Glenmore Reservoir in the background. On GE, the only evidence left is the smallest of the five hangars in the row, plus the one at an angle behind that. The main ramp is also still extant. If you go back to the 2008 imagery, you can see all the hangars.

The base closed in the sixties, but my gliding club operated there for a while after that. On the left edge of the photo is Currie Barracks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Currie). It was closed in 1998 as part of budget cutbacks. There is now no regular army presence in Calgary.

The airfield is now the home of Mount Royal University and all the open ground in the photo is now covered in houses. The reservoir is about 3 nm from downtown. The edge of the city is now 12 nm out!

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