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Old 8th Oct 2010, 15:14
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Before I go home, was the famous aircraft an AVRO?
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Is it from CAC in OZ, Purveyors of a/c like the Mustang,Sabre etc; The other well known one would be DC-3....
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SORRY :

Neither Spanish nor British .
Not CAC too .

btw ,what means " OZ " ??

The licence built aircraft was neither American nor British
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I think we are becoming confused between the company and the very famous aircraft.

Bradenav said:

It's not American at all ...
OZ is Australia.
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Was the challenge a/c manufactured in a country that subsequently ended up to the east side of the iron curtain?
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It was on both sides of the iron curtain ...
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...among them one of the best known type ( if not the best known ) in the world ...
As I understand it, this aeroplane NOT THE CHALLENGE is not:

British
Russian
American

It therefore has to be German.

I do not believe that "possibly the best known aircraft in the world" comes from countries outside this group.

Please remove the confusion........
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Hello
The challenge plane is german ,and built in a big factory ,which a little later built under licence a large number of a very well known german aircraft.

Good luck

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So, it is one of the BFW M Series planes, do not know which yet.


EDIT:
Edit: Correction BFW M 27

And the licensed plane was Messerschmitt 109

(For a while I thought that for Bradenav the best known would have been Bleriot )

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Old 8th Oct 2010, 17:28
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"possibly the best known aircraft in the world"

German? I can't believe that........no way......

The best known aircraft in the world of that era are either British or American!

Lancaster
B17
B29
Spitfire
Hurricane
Me109

Bon nuit.
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Regdep : it's not any BFW or Messerschmitt aircraft .
LM : The licence built acft was Me/Bf 109

Now ,only the ID of the challenge airplane left .
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Good evening Richard,

I think it may be the Erla 6A ? it has a high aspect-ratio, single strutted wing and I think I can make out out the flat twin engine in your image.

Erla made about 9000 Bf 109 so they would qualify.

I discounted the BFW M series because I believe they're all low wing types

I have been working late and have to go now, so please declare Open House if correct.
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TC you must right, although the concept of "under license" is not very clear to me in this case. I think (without knowing too much) that where 109 was manufactured was based on allocation from either Speer's planning office or somewhere else and not by negotiated licensing arrangements.... .

I would handle Erla's factory in Leipzig as a 109 production site/facility.

But the challenge was good, and the a/c in web, so everybody is happy .
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CONGRATULATION SincoTC

It's the ERLA 6


Erla 6A


OPEN HOUSE says SincoTC
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You may be ( or are ) right : however ,I think that some money get back to BFW ...I believe (but I'am not sure) ,ERLA built Bf 109 even before the war ...

I got it : "Wurden zur erweiterung der Produktion Lizenzauträge hereingeholt.
..........1936/45 12000 Me 109 ......."

from Kens/Nowarra "Deutschen Flugzeuge 1933/1946"
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Yes, they built over 11,000 between 1937 and 1945, about one third of the total Bf 109 production. The biggest "series" was 8,298 units.

And they produced Arado Ar 65, Heinkel He 51 and Gotha Go 145 under license before Bf 109.

So all is fine, one learns something every day.

EDIT: I believe you. My source was Dr. Robert Kluge Freier Journalist Luftfahrt

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from Kens/Nowarra "Deutschen Flugzeuge 1933/1946"
G'day from "OZ" Richard!

I remember being 18 years old and buying that book from an odd "Planes, Trains and Automobiles" bookshop that had a curtained-off porno section in Pitt St, Sydney. I flew up to Sydney for an engine mechanic apprenticeship interview with TAA.
The bookshop owner (he looked like that long-haired dude from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show") asked me if I spoke German. I replied "nein!". He didn't find that funny....memories...

Anyway, this won't be difficult Richard as it's on the opposite page to the history of Erla...

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Morning Graeme....been away?

I replied "nein!".
....so he made you buy all 9....cunning people these Australian book sellers!

Whoops, almost forgot...the Dornier P256 I believe?

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Old 8th Oct 2010, 22:33
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......bookshop that had a curtained-off porno section in Pitt St, Sydney.....
How many d'ya buy and have you still got them hidden?
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Shoot! Took me so long to find Dornier Do P 256 and it has been all over for almost an hour...

Dornier Do P.256 Luft '46 entry

Nite. Should have gone long ago. See ya .

Edit: Why cannot I make a difference between next an opposite . Of course D for Dornier is on opposite page of E for Erla .
sneef

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