In an interview about job losses recently, Alan told the interviewer he felt a particularly personal loss as he had known many of these redundant staff for 20 years or more. Remind again how long you've been overseeing this adversarial relationship between staff and management Alan…...

There were a number of people flying QFs aircraft who had law degrees. One was concurrently teaching law at one of the universities. Another completed his flying career, retired, and went on to be a barrister.

Great idea to have another degree or skill.There are a few practicing barristers as you rightly mention.
I know there are a few conveyancing solicitors that used to do work on the side that are now full time given that Qantas has cast them aside on long term stand down.Those that had a plan b did not get caught out.A stark warning for the future for those reliant only on flying.
It is a great opportunity with years off on unpaid stand down to get another string to the bow.
Given Qantas care so little for those stood down I think it is not only wise for the future but essential now.You can’t pay your mortgage on Jobkeeper and that is from the government not Qantas.Qantas are not paying anyone a cent.Glad to hear Joyce got $9 million dollars in share options.
All the executives are now back on full time pay doing their bit to help out.

Oh yeh,theyre doing a great job too,at least they wont be shy on telling you that.

that reminds me, i better thank them again next dial in

Why would you bother to listen to a dial in?All bull**** from managers and executives that are all on full pay and don’t know anything anyway.
Until borders open nothing is happening Internationally.Domestic is close to back to normal.Apart from that who gives a toss.
If your stood down you are not getting paid.Go do something useful like read the paper on the crapper if you are bored.

...How else will Management feed the gullible their narrative so that Pilots can continually kick own goals in Public Forums....
FUD

They may have been on full pay, if management were paid any bonuses they will have to pay JK back, audit announced on large companies which received job keeper payments.

Yep, read that this morning.

A quick read of certain public companies reports can shed the appropriate light. Probably needs it’s own thread?

Can you share the link?

100% this. You need to understand the mechanisms that the company use to slowly erode staff resistance to otherwise BS ideas..

Sorry, tried and failed. Story is in SMH today.

Is this it?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...12-p56my4.html

Yes but Alan got 1,700,000 share options. So it’s not a “bonus” but It’s an awful lot of awarded shares.
must be worth at today’s value? 9 million?

December 8 article about vaccine rollout in the UK;

“Chris Hopson, chief executive of NHS Providers, said: "I don't think people should expect anything over the next few days because the reality is, as I said, that for the vast, vast, vast majority of people this will be done in January, February, March.”

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...e-order-uk-evg

So if the ‘vast’ bulk of the UK is vaccinated by March and I’m assuming the reproduction number and active case would be significantly reduced by then what is stopping QF reactivating PER-LHR after that time?

Mark McGowan :hmm:

Classic!😂

Actually if he does object then I hope QF do LHR-DRW with connections to other states.

More direct route for east coast pax.

It's actually a really interesting question.

It's become apparent Australia's politicians won't accept any cases of community transmission. If Australia's vaccine of choice (Oxford/ Astra Zeneca) is 70-90% effective, seemingly dependent upon the final dosage regime, some might get sick, some might die if they come in to contact with a COVID case.

The politicians are still going to have to make some decisions around the risk they're willing to accept and how that's going to translate when it comes to opening up the international borders.

There's significant information suggesting that the vaccine does not stop you spreading the virus - rather it stops you getting sick.

In that light, don't expect borders to open quickly until most o the population has received the vaccine.

By the time everyone is vaccinated in overseas destinations and here at home,I think it is fair to assume there will not be significant International travel until start of 2022 at the earliest.With the exemption of a very small number of travel bubbles.
The Government is not going to risk a domestic consumer boom given no COVID cases.Shopping centres are packed.Restaurants full.
2021 will be closed off whilst until vaccinations take place.They have said late 2021 but I think start 2022 or mid 2022 is realistic.