PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific (https://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific-90/)
-   -   QF Group possible Redundancy Numbers/Packages (https://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific/633072-qf-group-possible-redundancy-numbers-packages.html)

Green.Dot 14th Nov 2020 06:52


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 10926120)
Exactly Ragnor, and I’ve been hearing VIC and WA residents are planning big catch ups in ADL to circumvent the ridiculous border issues.

FACT CHECK...

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7ea92d079.jpeg
FALSE


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....eba25e1a2.jpeg
FALSE


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....04f50151f.jpeg
TRUE


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d9259229a.jpeg
F##KED

brokenagain 14th Nov 2020 06:53

Why go all the way to SA? There’s nothing stopping thousands of SE Queensland residents driving to Byron Bay each weekend, mingling with no doubt hundreds of people from Sydney who are also visiting for the weekend, and getting back into Queensland no problems at all. Yet Queen P is so concerned about the spread of COVID out of Sydney despite NSW showing so far the most effective track and trace program in the country. It’s all smoke and mirrors.

TimmyTee 14th Nov 2020 07:26

Melbournian here, planning to jet to QLD to see mates within the first week of border opening.
Lol at the nutters protesting an entire state because a demoncratically elected government was elected.
WA has insanely stricter border policies but 1/50 the outcry (also keen to visit mates there when able)

Ragnor 14th Nov 2020 07:56

Timmy the issue, well my issue Queen P is making it purely political there is absolutely no fact base science as to why she won’t fully open to Australia even to VIC. I would be very happy if NSW fully dropped its border to VIC today. QLD ppl did elect her I fully respect that and now they can pay the price as business go bust jobs are lost and ppl are at their knees thinking what went wrong whilst everywhere else in Australia benifits from Queen P hard border closure. Even QLD ppl know Vic and NSW residents make up the majority of their cash revenue.

krismiler 14th Nov 2020 07:56

WA is effectively a separate country with a massive desert forming a natural barrier. It's closer to Singapore than it is to Sydney. Australia means the land east of a line joining Adelaide and Darwin.

Props _are_for_boats 14th Nov 2020 09:41


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10926087)
I won’t support anything QLD don’t care what it is. QLD gave Queen P their blessing they can deal with that aftermath.

..........👍🏻👍🏻

Iron Bar 14th Nov 2020 09:54

“I won’t support anything QLD don’t care what it is. QLD gave Queen P their blessing they can deal with that aftermath.”

+1 for Ragnor, Props and everyone else. Screw em, fly past QLD on the way to NT or drop into Byron. Parochial, jingoistic **** from the Premier deserves nothing less.

dr dre 14th Nov 2020 10:36


Originally Posted by TimmyTee (Post 10926159)
Lol at the nutters protesting an entire state because a demoncratically elected government was elected.
WA has insanely stricter border policies but 1/50 the outcry (also keen to visit mates there when able)

Oh trust me there’s been plenty of vitriol thrown at the WA government throughout this time, similar to that thrown at the Qld government.

Funnily though basically zero hate has been thrown at the governments of SA and Tasmania which, for the most part throughout this 7 month period since April, have had similar border restrictions to Qld and WA. Now, why I wonder have those two governments been ignored while the others attacked, wouldn’t have anything to do with who’s in power in those states???

But could I ask a request. There’s already another thread on this forum where peeps can argue about borders and politics. This thread is about company related issues regarding the pilot group. How about we stick to that?

galdian 14th Nov 2020 10:44


Originally Posted by Iron Bar (Post 10926262)
“I won’t support anything QLD don’t care what it is. QLD gave Queen P their blessing they can deal with that aftermath.”

+1 for Ragnor, Props and everyone else. Screw em, fly past QLD on the way to NT or drop into Byron. Parochial, jingoistic **** from the Premier deserves nothing less.

They have 4 years of Queen P "leadership into the future" to consider the wisdom of re-electing the dear lady.

However that doesn't exonerate the Libs for running a piss poor campaign, after so many years of Queen P/Trad destruction in so many areas the Libs couldn't land a blow?? Amateurs.

So when does Jackie Trad's government job get announced?

Slezy9 14th Nov 2020 18:57


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 10926300)
Funnily though basically zero hate has been thrown at the governments of SA and Tasmania which, for the most part throughout this 7 month period since April, have had similar border restrictions to Qld and WA. Now, why I wonder have those two governments been ignored while the others attacked, wouldn’t have anything to do with who’s in power in those states???

But, but.... That does not fit Murdoch's narrative (and the sheep on here) that Liberal = good and Labor = Bad.

goodonyamate 14th Nov 2020 19:48

Also Tas and Sa applied a commonsense approach...and they are open. Nothing to do with liberal v labor.

besides, if you want to go down that path, NT is labor, and they also applied a common sense approach. Doesn’t really fit your argument does it.

blubak 14th Nov 2020 19:57


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10926049)
QLD perfect example of being petrified and falling for the Queen P propaganda machine. Even the busiest tourist spots in QLD voted for her. Either way QLD can look after QLD as said by Queen P regarding the hospitals, I hope Aussies avoid QLD and prop up TAS, SA, VIC watch all QLD squirm into bankruptcy screaming for any tourist dollar.

I agree with this & i know many dont but thats democracy.
The difference here is that queen p decided to basically ridicule other states & gloat about their failures whereas other premiers did exactly the same thing with borders but got on with the problems in their own states without seeing the need to remind everyone how good they were on a daily basis.

Slezy9 14th Nov 2020 20:32


Originally Posted by goodonyamate (Post 10926649)
Also Tas and Sa applied a commonsense approach...and they are open. Nothing to do with liberal v labor.

besides, if you want to go down that path, NT is labor, and they also applied a common sense approach. Doesn’t really fit your argument does it.

How have TAS and SA borders been different to QLD up until recently?

Ragnor 14th Nov 2020 20:46

Because WA and QLD are not using common sense they’re using political motivation which is having an effect on WA and QLD residents. Good for NSW and SA as those residents flock to ADL and Ballina/Byron we thank those guys for sending money our way creating employment and allowing families to reunite.

TAS needed to wait as they are a smaller island and didn’t have the resources to cope with an outbreak and needed to be sure and in my opinion didn’t make it political.

itsnotthatbloodyhard 14th Nov 2020 21:07


Originally Posted by Slezy9 (Post 10926673)
How have TAS and SA borders been different to QLD up until recently?

As far as I know, they haven’t been happy to make exceptions for sporting teams, movie stars etc due to $$$$$$, while compassionate/medical cases from just across the border get knocked back. Nor have they been indulging in belligerent, childish rhetoric and saying things like ‘We have South Australian hospitals for South Australians’.

Fujiroll76 1st Dec 2020 04:05

Who would’ve thought the doom and gloom of a few months ago would end in some positive news only a short time later.

EOI was sent out to 787 crew this morning for flying in Dec, Jan, Feb.

Great way to end the year. Let’s hope it continues

blubak 1st Dec 2020 06:13


Originally Posted by Fujiroll76 (Post 10937864)
Who would’ve thought the doom and gloom of a few months ago would end in some positive news only a short time later.

EOI was sent out to 787 crew this morning for flying in Dec, Jan, Feb.

Great way to end the year. Let’s hope it continues

I wonder if the 2000+ ground staff who found out via a media post that their jobs no longer existed are thinking its a great way to end the year.
People making comments like this just dont get it.
Oh i forgot,the company statement saying it was a very difficult time for the affected employees & their families shows how much they really care.

Fujiroll76 1st Dec 2020 06:39


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 10937897)
I wonder if the 2000+ ground staff who found out via a media post that their jobs no longer existed are thinking its a great way to end the year.
People making comments like this just dont get it.
Oh i forgot,the company statement saying it was a very difficult time for the affected employees & their families shows how much they really care.

This post was directed at flight crew and being a PILOT forum then yes it is a great way to end the year. Many have not taken a pay check since March - it’s unfortunate what happened to the ground crew but that’s the way it went this time round. Many of us have faced redundancy before, multiple times.

might sound harsh but a job as a baggage handler compared to a career as a pilot is a little different. Many of us didn’t know when we were getting paid next...let alone the next career if this fell through.

good luck to you

Tucknroll 1st Dec 2020 08:23


Originally Posted by Fujiroll76 (Post 10937904)
might sound harsh but a job as a baggage handler compared to a career as a pilot is a little different.

not to the baggage handler.


FightDeck 1st Dec 2020 09:18

Qantas don’t give a **** about staff. Pilots or ground crew.
Got some good advice today from an old TRE.If you can, then get out of flying. Use the time off now to study or do something else. Get a side hustle.Get a solid employment alternate.Don’t ever rely on the job now.No one in Qantas cares about you or your family. Focus on the alternate that is now destination. Might take some time but it is essential.
In the future if you do go back then always remember to put yourself and your family first. Qantas don’t care but you have to.


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:28.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.