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Originally Posted by maggot
(Post 10115359)
Completely disagree on all counts.
My recent experiences of the long haul training system has been very very good. A great bunch of trainers. I’ve never experienced the SH training system in Qantas, but I think you would struggle to find a better training environment than the current LH system. |
Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere
(Post 10115318)
That's not fair. I have paxed on the flight deck once or twice.
I was fortunate enough to take my first promotion in QF after 18 months when such a thing was possible. As an F/O I am tired, however, of hearing Captains, who were widebody Captains in their late 20s or early 30s, lecture 40 y/o S/Os about why they're living their lives all wrong from an exalted seniority position some 1700 numbers above. One of these Captains recently had the audacity to pull out his iPad and start showing his S/O photos of the multi-million dollar holiday shack he was building and then wondered why they weren't interested. These S/Os have children in their teens, well established in schools, and wives who work and have careers of their own and Captain X thinks they should up sticks and move to become an F/O, work more and take a pay cut. These guys are utterly tone deaf to think that such advice is warranted or welcome. They have no idea what the world looks like from a S/O spot after the lost decade and should be sensible enough to keep their thoughts and ideas to themselves or maybe, having seen the consequences of the RIN first hand, I'm just a little more empathetic than others. Apologies for the thread drift. |
Originally Posted by Transition Layer
(Post 10115791)
For new hires or those with young kids, the lifestyle and job satisfaction on the 737 is surely better than the S/O gig. Sounds like your circumstances are a bit different though and I totally understand why some guys aren’t interested in the 737 after many cushy years in the back seat.
Perth is horrible. Sharks in the water. $20 pints of beer. Commuting a nightmare! Don’t come haha 🤣 |
Hi, anyone having gone through/going through the QF mainline recruitment process care to shed some light on the process and what prep sites to use. Feel free to pm. Thanks to those who take the time. Cheers.
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Direct Anywhere is spot on. In my time as an S/O at QF, before losing my medical and flying status, I got sick of pontificating fat tools telling me, at 36, how I should structure my career, ie how HE did. I was perfectly capable of making my own decisions in concert with my wife about where we lived, how we paid our mortgage and what lifestyle we wanted. Just wanted to say stick you 36ft cruiser up your date
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Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere
(Post 10115318)
having seen the consequences of the RIN first hand, I'm just a little more empathetic than others.
Apologies for the thread drift. |
Originally Posted by Flydawg
(Post 10126385)
Sorry but would someone be able to tell me what RIN stands for....
In recent times it has meant remaining in rank but moving to another, lower hourly rate type if you were lucky, or being demoted from Captain to F/O or F/O to S/O - sometimes with a fleet change as well (eg: 767 to anything, A380 to A330 or 744…..) |
Originally Posted by C441
(Post 10126415)
Reduction In Numbers.
In recent times it has meant remaining in rank but moving to another, lower hourly rate type if you were lucky, or being demoted from Captain to F/O or F/O to S/O - sometimes with a fleet change as well (eg: 767 to anything, A380 to A330 or 744…..) |
Originally Posted by rodney rude
(Post 10126360)
Direct Anywhere is spot on. In my time as an S/O at QF, before losing my medical and flying status, I got sick of pontificating fat tools telling me, at 36, how I should structure my career, ie how HE did. I was perfectly capable of making my own decisions in concert with my wife about where we lived, how we paid our mortgage and what lifestyle we wanted. Just wanted to say stick you 36ft cruiser up your date
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Any updates on where they are at with internal/external applications?
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I second startno1, has anybody heard when people internal/external may expect some news?
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Originally Posted by MICHELINSMOKE
(Post 10129369)
I second startno1, has anybody heard when people internal/external may expect some news?
Only thing I hear is va777s/os and cathay crew enmasse |
Hi Guys, Got the email saying i am thru to stage 3 and asked to pick a date for assessment centre in Sydney. This was 3 weeks ago and haven't heard anything since. Anyone else on the same boat waiting ? Getting a bit worried as the email said limited positions for each date and no response after 3 weeks, and they don't respond to your email for confirmation.
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Any updates for internals?? |
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Hi yotobeats, are you internal or external? Have any external applicants heard anything yet? |
Originally Posted by normanton
(Post 10136656)
The reality is that they initially opened applications in OCT 2016. A year and a half down the track, and I know people who have been on hold for over 10 months! A couple of internals who interviewed in FEB 2017 have only just received start dates for a mid-year course, it will be around the 17-month mark from interview date... |
Originally Posted by ufford
(Post 10136661)
My view, Qantas doesn’t want any pilots from here... they are waiting for everyone else to take them then recruit from overseas. Make it look like they want locals, then drag their feet forever and wait to the end and the pool is all but dry, throw their hands in the air and get the taxpayer to build their flight school complete with a new fleet of DA40s. Mainlin pilot recruitment and the Group Pilot Acadmey project are completely separate beings. (Whether they remain that way in the future is a discussion for another time but people aren’t even thinking about that yet). There is lots of stuff happening behind the scenes. Wouldn’t surprise me if people start hearing soon about online assessment and subsequent testing. Good luck to all. |
Originally Posted by ufford
(Post 10136940)
I hope you’re right but it all seems a bit suss to me.. they’re pushing for overseas pilots and I’m not sure they would take any locals if they had a cheaper option that had to do exactly as ordered with sponsorship revoking being held over them.. I’ve seen it before outside of aviation and not convinced this is not the master plan to take control |
Originally Posted by Jetdream
(Post 10136634)
Hi yotobeats, are you internal or external? Have any external applicants heard anything yet? |
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