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Gas Chamber 22nd Mar 2024 04:15


Originally Posted by ExtraShot (Post 11621121)
This is verified by discussion with other managers at the time. It was no idle threat. Two asx releases were ready to go. The one we saw, and the other one announcing a new subsidiary. In spite of any legal challenges or whatever else that may have arisen to try and fight it, Alan Joyce was not bluffing. The international/widebody version of network/njs was on the cards.

Just as everyone was being stood down… no chance of effective PIA to fight it, no likelihood of sympathy from courts and governments who were wrapped up in other business at the time.

Many say they can’t believe qantas proceeded with the vote at the time. I reckon management couldn’t believe their luck! They certainly wouldn’t get away with it now.

that’s crap. They couldn’t do it. Absolutely against the law.
just sewing doubt in pilot's minds for future votes.
there is very specific rules against this sort of business behaviour, and was absolutely in place at the time.

ExtraShot 22nd Mar 2024 05:02


Originally Posted by Gas Chamber (Post 11621144)
that’s crap. They couldn’t do it. Absolutely against the law.
just sewing doubt in pilot's minds for future votes.
there is very specific rules against this sort of business behaviour, and was absolutely in place at the time.


Unfortunately not crap at all.

Sunrise , as proposed, was not ‘existing business’…. Some may remember One senior manager being reigned in and ‘disappeared’ rather quickly after he had suggested the 350 was also a potential 380 replacement…

they already had experience with Jetconnect, network, njs gaining work , uniforms, products, etc qantas had for years. There was obviously advice they’d get away with it.

Ofcourse if it’s ‘crap’ you can quote said law, and any case that had set a precedent to support the fight?

And suppose you wanted to fight it, good luck taking that through the courts at that time.


Beer Baron 22nd Mar 2024 05:27


Originally Posted by Gas Chamber (Post 11621140)
COVID hadn’t kicked off for that vote. Just selfish pilots looking after themselves. B scale is a disgrace.

Utter garbage.
19 March 2020: Alan Joyce announced they would stand down 20,000 staff.
20 March 2020: LHEA voting opens
21 March 2020: Received Stand Down notification

Good luck holding PIA when you don’t have a job to attend.

As for your suggestion of legal protections, equally fanciful.

maggot 22nd Mar 2024 05:38

Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant 😂

dejapoo 22nd Mar 2024 05:47


Originally Posted by Beer Baron (Post 11621160)
Utter garbage.
19 March 2020: Alan Joyce announced they would stand down 20,000 staff.
20 March 2020: LHEA voting opens
21 March 2020: Received Stand Down notification

Good luck holding PIA when you don’t have a job to attend.

As for your suggestion of legal protections, equally fanciful.

You must be jet lagged or have sleep induced dementia. Please see your DAME before climbing into the jet.

Beer Baron 22nd Mar 2024 07:11


Originally Posted by dejapoo (Post 11621163)
You must be jet lagged or have sleep induced dementia. Please see your DAME before climbing into the jet.

What part are you struggling with smart guy?
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....573cf0e5b.jpeg

dejapoo 22nd Mar 2024 12:31

Apologies. Thought you initially said February.

Sugref 24th Mar 2024 02:03

Has anyone completed the internal interview this month? Would love some intel on the ‘scenario’
thanks

Swept-Wing 24th Mar 2024 17:37

Pinstripe Solutions had all the ‘intel’ you need.

Climb150 24th Mar 2024 19:59


Originally Posted by Swept-Wing (Post 11622695)
Pinstripe Solutions had all the ‘intel’ you need.

You mean the company that wants over $300 to help you with your Resume and $250 for interview coaching?

I actually did an interview recently and I was asked which prep service I used. I replied that I hadn't used any. I then asked why and they wanted to know and they said "we know which questions each prep company uses so we ask different ones".

Now I don't know anything about Pinstripe but 95% of people I know who used a prep company for Resume or Interview help said it was a complete waste of money.
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Stretch06 24th Mar 2024 22:25


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 11622757)
You mean the company that wants over $300 to help you with your Resume and $250 for interview coaching?

I actually did an interview recently and I was asked which prep service I used. I replied that I hadn't used any. I then asked why and they wanted to know and they said "we know which questions each prep company uses so we ask different ones".

Now I don't know anything about Pinstripe but 95% of people I know who used a prep company for Resume or Interview help said it was a complete waste of money.
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after sitting on the ‘interviewer’ side of the desk for a number of years, I can confidently say that you can tell straight away who has and who hasn’t ’had coaching’ for the interview. Some of those people didn’t score as well as they would want to believe.

transition_alt 24th Mar 2024 22:31


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 11622757)
You mean the company that wants over $300 to help you with your Resume and $250 for interview coaching?

I actually did an interview recently and I was asked which prep service I used. I replied that I hadn't used any. I then asked why and they wanted to know and they said "we know which questions each prep company uses so we ask different ones".

Now I don't know anything about Pinstripe but 95% of people I know who used a prep company for Resume or Interview help said it was a complete waste of money.
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I can assure you Pinstripe wasn’t/isn’t a waste of money.

Yes, I feel the prices are getting a bit greedy. But it’s supply and demand so probably justifiable.
They actually do a good job and get you where you need and how to articulate a model answer.

Recruiters know and appreciate this and can see the effort you’ve put in to get the job. Much better than struggling through a response.

What I don’t agree with is them selling your interview questions to people without giving you a small discount on their services in return.

FFG 02 25th Mar 2024 08:03

I've used Pinstripe a couple of times. I don't know of any others.

A good pilot should be prepared and I see interview coaching as helping you out with strategies to deal with what can be an uncomfortable/stressful situation. You don't do job interviews very often (hopefully) so you want to bring out your best. Would you do a practice in a sim before a sim assessment? What is the difference?

And FYI each time I got the job I was going for!

Ollie Onion 26th Mar 2024 00:47


Originally Posted by FFG 02 (Post 11622940)
I've used Pinstripe a couple of times. I don't know of any others.

A good pilot should be prepared and I see interview coaching as helping you out with strategies to deal with what can be an uncomfortable/stressful situation. You don't do job interviews very often (hopefully) so you want to bring out your best. Would you do a practice in a sim before a sim assessment? What is the difference?

And FYI each time I got the job I was going for!

I have never used any sort of interview prep and likewise have got every flying job I have ever interviewed for. It is horses for courses, all the info is out there and you certainly don't need to pay anyone to find it, but each to their own.

VH-RME 26th Mar 2024 00:49

Would love to know how many posters have financial affiliations with these companies

skypilot646 27th Mar 2024 01:05

Anyone know a rough time to command for someone starting this year?

A320 Flyer 27th Mar 2024 01:12


Originally Posted by skypilot646 (Post 11624278)
Anyone know a rough time to command for someone starting this year?

you’re a funny guy

Going Nowhere 27th Mar 2024 01:15


Originally Posted by skypilot646 (Post 11624278)
Anyone know a rough time to command for someone starting this year?

Rough?

You might get one before you retire..

cxflog 27th Mar 2024 01:31


Originally Posted by Going Nowhere (Post 11624280)
Rough?

You might get one before you retire..

Emphasis on might…

dr dre 27th Mar 2024 01:45


Originally Posted by skypilot646 (Post 11624278)
Anyone know a rough time to command for someone starting this year?

Currently it's 16 years as last command awarded was an 08 start.

Couple of things to note. Recruiting in that era stopped in early 2009, and didn't restart until mid 2016. As the indications for next training year will be as big as the current one all those who started in 08/09 will have a chance to bid for a command next TY, so likely that some 2016/17 starts will get a command slot next TY to start their command sometime in 2025. So time to command should drop to about 8-9 years.

As for the time to command for someone starting this year? That's variable, and as you know the industry has ups and downs meaning it can be many years depending on where you fall as the wave ends. Currently forecasts with retirements and new aircraft into the fleet show the number of Captains needed overall to increase by 200. Half of all current Captains will hit retirement by decade's end.


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