Originally Posted by LivingtheDream46 (Post 11608464)

A Network FO gets $107k no allowances, FDP, no overtime (for anyone wanting to compare with the worst f**'ing job in the Qantas group).

Originally Posted by engine out (Post 11613804)

Don’t know about start dates. Talking to the recruiters recently and told still 30 on hold file from last round of recruitment. Interviews from this round will go on 3-4 days a week until December, possibly longer. New courses every two to four weeks. Interestingly despite the hype of Atlas and other U.S freight carriers over 100 applicants from them.

Originally Posted by dr dre;[url=tel:11615307

11615307[/url]]Not surprised. FedEx asking their pilots to go fly CRJs for regional airlines, UPS offering VR, the Covid freight boom ended once all the spare freight capacity in passenger aircraft that hadn't been flying during Covid returned. Any chance of a quick 747 command looks bleak. Plus Atlas's rosters seem horrific, 2+ weeks away with multiple short slips and BoC multi sector nights. And that's without even factoring the commuting in if you don't want to live in places like Cincinnati Ohio.

QF LH is a dream by comparison. The only real down side is time to LH F/O and command, but at least LH F/O is coming quicker these days.

Originally Posted by abaderrr (Post 11615314)

No job is perfect but I don’t think anyone who isn't at QF trying to justify their existence, would look at it as “a dream”.

Originally Posted by morno (Post 11615318)

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Having worked overseas, I can tell you now, if it weren’t for my individual circumstances, I’d be over there! Australia is rubbish

Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11615333)

Why then is QF (the topic of this thread btw) always massively oversubscribed for recruitment? By a ratio of 4-5x as many positions as required? And it is uncommon to hear of mainline pilots resigning for other work.

Let me be clear, I mean mainline only, not the other outfits which have obviously inferior conditions. The benefits of overseas vs subsidiaries is apparent. Apparently according to Crikey news 5 NAA pilots resigned just this week. That’s almost unheard of in mainline despit

Originally Posted by MartyMcflyface (Post 11615343)

Perhaps because it is the only job to aspire to in the country. But if you set foot outside the Australian aviation bubble, you will see that it is not that great and there are many excellent opportunities to be found overseas.

Originally Posted by Big Silver Spoon (Post 11615344)

However, if the ones who stepped out of the Australian bubble were lucky enough to get a white hat, they wouldn’t be in the queue to take the excellent opportunities overseas.

Originally Posted by soseg (Post 11615360)

Plenty of pilots on the hold file, or others who already had started have left to go overseas. I personally have four close friends who gave up their seniority or hold file to work overseas, and have heard of many more.

Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11615333)

Why then is QF (the topic of this thread btw) always massively oversubscribed for recruitment? By a ratio of 4-5x as many positions as required? And it is uncommon to hear of mainline pilots resigning for other work.

Let me be clear, I mean mainline only, not the other outfits which have obviously inferior conditions. The benefits of overseas vs subsidiaries is apparent. Apparently according to Crikey news 5 NAA pilots resigned just this week. That’s almost unheard of in mainline despite being much larger.

Originally Posted by ebarw (Post 11616869)

Had an interview last year aug and was put on hold sept 2023, any idea on how many people are on hold or how recruitment is going? I’m a qgpa grad so any news on qlink or Jetstar courses going out?

Originally Posted by chuq (Post 11616958)

Just out of interest did you come straight out of QGPA to an interview with low hours or have you been flying for a bit to build time.

Looking to potentially head there next year so trying to gauge where some past graduates are these days.

Originally Posted by ebarw (Post 11616961)

I graduated in early 2022 and have been working to build hours since then. Have heard of a lot of low hour guys getting through straight away though