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Seems TT are marking their territory down in Tassie, with the new additions of a an extra 3daily services to HBA ex MEL and an extra service to LST ex Mel also...
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Unless thay start flying into BNE and SYD and therefore fly more of the trunk routes I wonder how they can survive?
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Tiger Territory is down South
The Tier model is to operate the southern part of Oz first.
They plan to expand into QLD next year,then the capital cities after that. They are not rushing or is it crawlling before you walk. Tiger is a very low cost,no huge costs, just look at the others-$50 mil just to overnight crew- yes you need alot of SYD/MEL to pay for that. Tigers motto-The cheapest seats-The safest Airline-And the Happiest Staff The new CEO FOR OZ is the greatest thing to happen to TIGER and SIA are very happy with the operation-- with 70 A320s on order- Just wait & watch !! |
Maybe Tiger is doing exactly that, crawl-walk-run, get a foothold on minor routes, work your stuff out, then enter the squable over mel-syd-bris well prepared and experienced in the local market.
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if they keep losing a million per week they won't be around for very long..
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Singapore with deep pockets and backed by the Ryan's? I think so.......
Just as Qantas with Jetstar Asia its Singapore's turn to go Tiger in Australia |
Didn't tiger make $30m profit last FY?
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Tiger singapore did. Whole company. Tiger Oz made approx. 10 mil loss.
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ADL CC base?
Hi guys,
is there any concrete word on an ADL CC base? If so, does anyone have any info or timings of when the base will open? Cheers, WG |
Can anyone actually post here what the terms and conditions are at Tiger. They are advertising for pilots but I can't find any info about pay. And before anyone says to do a search, I have and have just found lots of posts about how bad it is to pay for training and having to hand write flight plans etc...... Any actual Tiger pilots out there that could PM me some terms and conditions would be appreciated.
Cheers A.H. |
Hi guys, is there any concrete word on an ADL CC base? If so, does anyone have any info or timings of when the base will open? Cheers, WG Between 12 Feb-1 March, the 1xA319 will be doing ADL-MEL sectors. Then the ADL-HBA,OOL,ASP,PER begins on 1st March 2009 |
Sunstar320
Sunstar,
outstanding! Thankyou very much for your quick reply. Fly safe! |
I imagine further routes from Adelaide to be announced soon?
A little birdie also told me that due to maintenance scheduling, rather than having all A319s in ADL and A320s in MEL, the reality is that they are likely to be shared across both bases (though not yet confirmed). The extra flexibility does make sense to match capacity with demand as needed. |
I herd from certian adelaide people that Tiger have already began negotiating new routes, however are going to "wait and see" how the currently announced routes go first.....
Should be interesting... |
My Initial prediction for the Adelaide base is the scaling back to 3weekly of ADL-HBA. Just my thought, feel free to disagree...
No birdy told me this, but I have a feeling we will see Tiger enter the Cairns market very soon. Setting up a base there would also be good. Didn't Jetstar close down a base there? or was that someone else? Townsville also has good potential ex MEL, they would do well out of this Sydney and Brisbane will come guys, might just be 10 years away, thats all:ok: |
you've pretty well hit the nail on the head with the Cairns base,
Apparantly the hope is to get a base open there, and they are looking into Adelaide-Cairns daily or every second day... but thats pure speculation, just rumors floating around.... |
Jetstar seems to be doing excellent on MEL-CNS as well as Qantas. Tiger would do quite well out of Cairns as they are usually about 30/40% cheaper than there rivals. I would certainly use them for this service.
They seem keen on all this "overseas routing, using Australian Based Crew" idea though, which would suit Cairns, as well as Melbourne.... But, as Tiger are great at never letting details emerge, who knows when we will find out whats going on with this airline.......:suspect: |
Ages ago, wasn't QF running 742's out of MEL & SYD to CNS>?
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Let me just clarify a couple of things here.
Tiger doesn't need to open a base in CNS to operate there. However, I agree with Sunstar 320, CNS is probably on the radar for destinations in the very near future. No one. Not even the managing director, knows where the next base will be. That won't be known until they've run all the numbers. And who knows when that'll be 'cause they are certainly in no hurry. Based on the numbers, for all we know, base 3 could be Perth. They will go were the best deal is offered. We can speculate all we like about this mob but there track record so far is to keep everyone guessing. And QANTAS and Virgin can't stand it. :* |
'bogan',
Although they dont have to open a base there, you have to admit, it has a great potential to become a fantastic operating base, aswell as perth... Yes other places have potential but I strongly belive that CNS would be a prime location for them |
Me too. I've searched to no avail. If anyone has any factual information please post it up or PM me. Thanks |
Yep, CNS would be a logical base to open up. They could jump off there into the pacific and s/e asia for the international ops they aspire to.
I also believe that because the incheon start up has been delayed indefinately, 5 a/c need to be re assigned elsewhere. A 3rd base could be opened sooner than we think. |
Worse than Jetstar? |
Just dont stand too close to a heat source in the 'provided' uniform lest it become permanent. The cost of a uniform becomes almost academic after forking out 30+K for a type rating, $600 for Jepps etc as most have.
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Can anyone actually post here what the terms and conditions are at Tiger |
'Bogan'
I herd something hovering around 3 weeks before offer of employment transfers to pilots, CC, etc and actual date somewhere before December... but pure speculation... have you herd anything along those lines? |
STHAUSSIE,
Sorry, i really know nothing about what these guys are planning. Just guessing like everyone else. There ad in last Fridays Australian was promising though. |
"Bogan"
Cheers, I'm very curious to see where they are going to tread next...:ok: |
The are not many Tiger pilots mabye, they onyl have 4 A320's.....
Mabye they are all just not members.. |
If i recall correctly, Tiger F/Os are on $75,000 base + $32 per flying hour. Tiger pilots can do 1000 hrs per year. Thus max pay $107,000 for F/Os.
Very Close to the mark |
What are the skippers actually on????? Whats the base salary, and what is/not included..( ie what are the things you have to pay for )carparking, jepss etc etc????
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Pig, you pay for everything except the a/c leasing costs and the fuel.............I think :cool:
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Does anyone know if TT are as yet making money?
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I have heard recently, that no, not yet making money. But they are moving along better today than they were 6months ago. They might need some revenue boosters, ie Brisbane? Mabye Sydney? Cairns?
They need to get their brand out there. |
Has anyone been contacted by Tiger re interviews for their coming expansion?
Must be soon!!!!!: |
maryparlalis,
I found this thread which is actually discussing Tiger's expansion and Employment. This thread has many good details. Worth a look:) http://www.pprune.org/cabin-crew-wan...irways-oz.html |
Thanks Sunstar320
But I was refering to Tech crew positions. Are they accepting DEC? |
from the SMH
TIGER AIRWAYS has missed a second deadline to lodge its full-year accounts, fuelling speculation that the Singapore Airlines-backed budget airline has failed to reveal the extent of its financial woes. The airline has declined to explain why its holding company, Tiger Aviation, has not lodged its accounts for the year to March 31, after already obtaining a three-month extension from Singapore's Accounting & Corporate Regulatory Authority in July. The delay comes as the airline told the Herald it could postpone the delivery of a fifth Airbus A320 aircraft to Australia by two months. Although it said last week that bookings remained strong, it declined to provide any indication of when it planned to lodge its accounts. A Tiger spokesman, Matt Hobbs, denied the airline was in trouble. "Tiger is very happy with how things are going, and we continue to fill planes in Australia and Asia," he said. There are suspicions Tiger's 11-month foray in Australia is still losing it millions of dollars each month. Since the Herald reported in August that its Australian operations could have lost $S28 million ($29 million) in the four months to March 31, the airline has still failed to confirm or deny the figures. The estimated loss was arrived at by reconciling the $S37.8 million profit reported by Tiger's Singaporean operations in the year to March 31 and comments made by the chief executive of Singapore Airlines, Chew Choon Seng. He told an analyst briefing earlier this year that Tiger Aviation's profit for the year was close to $S10 million. If so, Tiger Australia - Tiger's only operation outside Singapore - would have lost about $S28 million for the period. But given the rise in fuel prices since March 31, economic slowdown in Australia and recession in Singapore, the losses could have worsened. Tiger did not say why the introduction of two Airbus A319s to its Australian fleet of four Airbus A320s had been pushed back to January. In March the airline's chief executive, Tony Davis, said they would be delivered in November. The airline also confirmed it could delay the delivery of an extra A320 to Australia next month to January, and would focus instead on developing new routes from Singapore into Malaysia. Qantas's part-owned Jetstar Asia has also failed to lodge its accounts. It was given a three-month extension to lodge its full-year accounts by Singapore authorities on September 29. What on earth are they doing wrong?? Is it High Oil, Unstatainable Fares?? |
Who said they are doing anything wrong? Read the last para of your post.
Qantas' Jetstar Asia ALSO failed to submit its accounts. Sounds more like a Singaporean accounting issue than a real issue. Tried to get a seat on Tiger in Oz lately. Loads seem very full. |
Jetstar Asia's financial situation is not all that fantastic either.
Good news for TR is as the AUD plummets to parity/below parity with the Singapore Dollar, their losses in SGD terms will be about 30% less than what it would have been 6 months ago. Bad news for Jetstar Asia is that their losses in AUD terms are now about 30% higher than they would have been 6 months ago. |
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