Network EBA
This, from our boss
' Blah, blah...... I know we’re in a place that many of you don’t want to be in. Let me be absolutely clear that this is not where we want to be either.'
She just forgot to paste a hyperlink to the EK recruitment site
' Blah, blah...... I know we’re in a place that many of you don’t want to be in. Let me be absolutely clear that this is not where we want to be either.'
She just forgot to paste a hyperlink to the EK recruitment site
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This is really the best way to force change - supply and demand. IR laws in this country aren’t really designed for radical pro worker changes.
For the NAA guys there’s the JQ operation starting up over the road which I believe is still under crewed. At least you’ll be flying newer aircraft and to some more exotic destinations than some minesite.
For the NAA guys there’s the JQ operation starting up over the road which I believe is still under crewed. At least you’ll be flying newer aircraft and to some more exotic destinations than some minesite.
It is all a bit academic anyway discussing the new Jetstar Perth base as the Network pilots would have to go through the Group process to be able to transfer and I suspect that the permission would not be forth coming.
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So what is the result of the vote?
Sorry if the question sounds silly. When people say they want the same rate as mainline, is that hourly rate or annual total? I haven’t seen any details of the deal, the ask or anything else.
Another victim of PIA
remember the 1700 ground handlers won on the premise QF discriminated against them for the reason of potentially pursuing PIA. If you had your application knocked back from another sub (even one that works the same a/c) I’d call a lawyer
keep fighting lads!
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would you please leave. Constantly called out as a management troll. Nobody cares or listens to your dribble.
VOTE NO. Nothing to lose. IR laws are 180 degrees different to the past.
You have them literally on the ropes. The desperation is hilarious watching from the sidelines.
hopefully LH and SH joining the fight soon. I’ve had enough of the ongoing poo sandwiches.
Who will keep network flying when SH joins the party!
DON’T BE BULLIED.
VOTE NO. Nothing to lose. IR laws are 180 degrees different to the past.
You have them literally on the ropes. The desperation is hilarious watching from the sidelines.
hopefully LH and SH joining the fight soon. I’ve had enough of the ongoing poo sandwiches.
Who will keep network flying when SH joins the party!
DON’T BE BULLIED.
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would you please leave. Constantly called out as a management troll. Nobody cares or listens to your dribble.
VOTE NO. Nothing to lose. IR laws are 180 degrees different to the past.
You have them literally on the ropes. The desperation is hilarious watching from the sidelines.
hopefully LH and SH joining the fight soon. I’ve had enough of the ongoing poo sandwiches.
Who will keep network flying when SH joins the party!
DON’T BE BULLIED.
VOTE NO. Nothing to lose. IR laws are 180 degrees different to the past.
You have them literally on the ropes. The desperation is hilarious watching from the sidelines.
hopefully LH and SH joining the fight soon. I’ve had enough of the ongoing poo sandwiches.
Who will keep network flying when SH joins the party!
DON’T BE BULLIED.
Your post indicates you’re watching from the sidelines and while I understand your position, I have reframed from advising anyone to vote yes or no despite actually being an eligible voter. What gives you the right to push a direction of vote?
Yea I’ve been called out several times for whatever people think I am. Largely in response to posting a view or position that others appear only able to dispute by calling me a management troll. Maybe it should become apparent that doesn’t bother me.
Your post indicates you’re watching from the sidelines and while I understand your position, I have reframed from advising anyone to vote yes or no despite actually being an eligible voter. What gives you the right to push a direction of vote?
Your post indicates you’re watching from the sidelines and while I understand your position, I have reframed from advising anyone to vote yes or no despite actually being an eligible voter. What gives you the right to push a direction of vote?
good people that work hard and have pride in what they do. People that still turn up and do an amazing job after being treated like garbage.
that’s what gives me the right to push my opinion.
years of lies and handshake agreements that are never honoured.
management should be embarrassed and absolutely need a reality check.
Joyce cut and run…the rest of you should have some honour and leave too.
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A SH Capt is on $246k for a minimum 53hrs. But rosters come out about 65-70 hours per BP, sometimes in the last year rosters have been built in the high 70s. There’s no day off or additional payments for SH. Hourly rate is about $350 ph.
So if the new NAA pa is around $230k that’s still well below SH on an hourly rate and with much less incentive to go beyond 65 hours (assuming the new EA has overtime rates the same as the previous one) whereas SH has more incentive to go north of that amount so there are hour chasers (as well as those that give away flying for flexibility).
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20+ years of having our pilot cohort bullied and threatened by a bunch of MBA retards that don’t have the IQ or aptitude to do our jobs.
good people that work hard and have pride in what they do. People that still turn up and do an amazing job after being treated like garbage.
that’s what gives me the right to push my opinion.
years of lies and handshake agreements that are never honoured.
management should be embarrassed and absolutely need a reality check.
Joyce cut and run…the rest of you should have some honour and leave too.
good people that work hard and have pride in what they do. People that still turn up and do an amazing job after being treated like garbage.
that’s what gives me the right to push my opinion.
years of lies and handshake agreements that are never honoured.
management should be embarrassed and absolutely need a reality check.
Joyce cut and run…the rest of you should have some honour and leave too.
Many can probably relate to your experience and sharing that experience is likely going to connect with those people, stir up similar emotions and a vote aligned with that. That’s not everyone though and even if a minority everyone gets to choose which way they vote.
How many of the Network managers have an MBA? I have not see anywhere that any of them claim to have an MBA, I’m not suggesting they don’t though.
Very Qantas-ised MBAs too. If you look at the course content for an MBA you’ll notice the decisions coming from management would suggest they’ve abandoned their profession.
Early data has a NO vote extremely likely. This will test Qantas’ appetite for blind deference to MBAs.
Early data has a NO vote extremely likely. This will test Qantas’ appetite for blind deference to MBAs.
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I would suggest the know everything overlords at Mascot are the source of literally all of the Qantas groups problems.
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Very Qantas-ised MBAs too. If you look at the course content for an MBA you’ll notice the decisions coming from management would suggest they’ve abandoned their profession.
Early data has a NO vote extremely likely. This will test Qantas’ appetite for blind deference to MBAs.
Early data has a NO vote extremely likely. This will test Qantas’ appetite for blind deference to MBAs.
The Network pilots should be extremely proud of the sacrifices they have made and the rest of the group should be eternally grateful given the turning point it will represent Australia wide - perhaps this will put an end to the whole ‘bin chicken’ rubbish permanently.
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Hence their last roll of the dice with forcing financially stressed pilots to a vote. If they were so happy with IB they’d let the process run out
Maybe offering up a cold serving of the EBA that had been voted down was the only move available to them in an effort to avoid the FWC getting involved?
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Was QF able to offer up anything other than the last proposed deal? What I mean by that is that they had applied for IB, if they had then gone ahead and offered an improved draft while the application for IB was in place, would it have voided the application for IB? Would it have signalled that their original application to the FWC was illegitimate or in bad faith?
Maybe offering up a cold serving of the EBA that had been voted down was the only move available to them in an effort to avoid the FWC getting involved?
Maybe offering up a cold serving of the EBA that had been voted down was the only move available to them in an effort to avoid the FWC getting involved?
Regardless I hardly see this move as from a position of strength. If they’re so confident of a favourable IB process they wouldn’t be having another crack. Watch them fold next week as did Chevron and VA.
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