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Old 18th Jul 2022, 06:52
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Jayne and Alan are going to merge Qantas and Virgin, to take it up to Rex on regional routes?

There will be a combined seniority list for both entities, everything will be outsourced to Swissport to run.

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Old 18th Jul 2022, 10:04
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Apparently,and most likely, a slight rebrand to match Virgin Atlantic and America…red cowls and tails,white Virgin logo,coloured nose art chicky,no more purple.
Other unlikely crew room goss is wide bodies,dogs on board,diversity stuff,60 odd ex Southwest 700s on the way…blah blah.
Who knows?
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Old 18th Jul 2022, 10:59
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Found a leak, first 737 just painted up in Townsville. I’ve still got a lanyard if anyone needs one for the dinner party.

Bain Capital kicks off Virgin Australia rebranding exercise with new livery
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Old 18th Jul 2022, 11:15
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
Found a leak, first 737 just painted up in Townsville. I’ve still got a lanyard if anyone needs one for the dinner party.

Bain Capital kicks off Virgin Australia rebranding exercise with new livery
Hahahahahahahaha, love it PJ
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Old 19th Jul 2022, 03:05
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Originally Posted by Renton Field
Other unlikely crew room goss is wide bodies,dogs on board,diversity stuff,60 odd ex Southwest 700s on the way…blah blah.
Who knows?
I've heard of the rumours of the 700s coming from Southwest before, but 60 looks way unlikely.

I'd say they are likely to be the ex-KLM all-Y 700s.
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Old 19th Jul 2022, 06:40
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In the Weekend Australian they (the paper) claimed the event was to launch VA's new "customer value proposition..."
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 11:11
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Any idea what the announcement on Friday is for?
Cancelled!!!
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 20:09
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Cancelled!!!
VA embracing the woke agenda with this event (this is the second time right?), cancel culture all the way
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Old 22nd Jul 2022, 04:58
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Originally Posted by Renton Field
Apparently,and most likely, a slight rebrand to match Virgin Atlantic and America…red cowls and tails,white Virgin logo,coloured nose art chicky,no more purple.
Other unlikely crew room goss is wide bodies,dogs on board,diversity stuff,60 odd ex Southwest 700s on the way…blah blah.
Who knows?
Looks like you were right! New logo now live on the website & socials.
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Old 22nd Jul 2022, 07:46
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You would have to be brain dead crazy to launch a ‘Customer Value Proposition’ at the moment. The two big players at this present time are in the dog house on customer front. I mean the Virgin boss was in the Royal box at Wimbledon while 20% of her passengers got cancelled.

Come back next year. I doubt September holidays will be much different. Gotta cycle through a whole heap of chaos, Feb onwards next year we might get some stability with people more worried about (trying to..) paying the house off vs touring the country.
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Old 23rd Jul 2022, 07:44
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Any guess when virgin will start hiring flight crew again? Are there many ex tiger crew still waiting for a return?
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Old 23rd Jul 2022, 08:42
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Originally Posted by noclue
Any guess when virgin will start hiring flight crew again? Are there many ex tiger crew still waiting for a return?
With a large intake in the last month of around 90, it bypassed a lot of senior ex Tiger folks. Along side this lots of EX VANS crew still haven't come across the pond . But with such a long due date of expiry its anyones guess how long until they recruit externally. If all decided to return it would be around 300 plus.
But if wide bodies came to town, could be sooner.

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Old 23rd Jul 2022, 08:58
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Thanks for that, sounds like a while then.
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Old 23rd Jul 2022, 09:16
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Alot of guys that have been bypassed are trying their hand at another gig e.g USA aviation. Some are being the stay at home dad or letting their partners pursue their careers.
Some wont come back but i get the feeling within the last 24 months of recall expiry (April 2026) alot will take any seat back at VA to secure their seniority. Tiger guys taking spots or VANZ captains taking a right seat for a short term until the left opens up
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Old 23rd Jul 2022, 09:37
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Any guess when virgin will start hiring flight crew again? Are there many ex tiger crew still waiting for a return?
End of year potentially from reliable source
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Old 25th Jul 2022, 22:35
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Does anyone have the new conditions under Bain?
I just wondering why so many people haven’t put a bid in to return?
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 00:58
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Originally Posted by Bumble_Pilot
Does anyone have the new conditions under Bain?
I just wondering why so many people haven’t put a bid in to return?
They’re terrible. 130k for an FO and 200k for a Captain. Throw in the lack of support staff and all the other issues the airline is facing, people are frustrated and leaving (or not prepared to rejoin). Additionally the conditions on offer overseas are luring a lot of crew away.

The conditions are insulting considering the struggle involved with getting to a major airline in Australia. You’re better off becoming a tradie, train/bus driver or working at the mines. You’ll earn just as much (without a 100k debt) and also have a lot more certainty in life. You also have a lower chance of losing your job in a black swan event unlike aviation.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 03:53
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Originally Posted by Bumble_Pilot
Does anyone have the new conditions under Bain?
I just wondering why so many people haven’t put a bid in to return?
I know of a few people who didnt have bids in not thinking it would get so far down the list this quickly, or they had a bid but only for BNE base, and hence have been skipped in the process.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 04:45
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Originally Posted by Bumble_Pilot
Does anyone have the new conditions under Bain?
I just wondering why so many people haven’t put a bid in to return?
Have a look at "Front of house" on the TV some nights.....No doubt its worse behind the scenes where the TV cameras cant see. Virgin always was bordering on catastrophic even on a good day.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 08:45
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Originally Posted by Red69
They’re terrible. 130k for an FO and 200k for a Captain. Throw in the lack of support staff and all the other issues the airline is facing, people are frustrated and leaving (or not prepared to rejoin). Additionally the conditions on offer overseas are luring a lot of crew away.

The conditions are insulting considering the struggle involved with getting to a major airline in Australia. You’re better off becoming a tradie, train/bus driver or working at the mines. You’ll earn just as much (without a 100k debt) and also have a lot more certainty in life. You also have a lower chance of losing your job in a black swan event unlike aviation.

Isn't that just the base salary?



Having been in said construction earning 100k plus for a year whilst trying to claw back into Aviation, I know which I would prefer.



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