Virgin Australia - Phoenix Rising from the Ashes?
I don’t understand why Virgin people are so disparaging of their company. Not much more than a year ago it was looking like Ansett… most ex Ansett people I know would have given their all to get a white knight saviour.
Don’t mean to offend, but it almost seems like that is forgotten and people are actively working against the business.
Do people want to see it fall or feel like it can’t fail again?
Don’t mean to offend, but it almost seems like that is forgotten and people are actively working against the business.
Do people want to see it fall or feel like it can’t fail again?
People simply want to be treated fairly. There are now plenty of pilot jobs out there and people are voting with their feet. The employees have taken a big hit during COVID and unfortunately airline employees have taken massive cuts while most industries have had significant pay raises over the last 2 years. If the airline can't provide suitable conditions and pay market rates, people will keep leaving. There is no incentive to sit in the RHS for 15 years waiting for a command when that can be achieved elsewhere at a much faster rate. It's not about wanting VA to fail, it's about them trying to squeeze their staff while the exco bask in large bonuses.
I don’t understand why Virgin people are so disparaging of their company. Not much more than a year ago it was looking like Ansett… most ex Ansett people I know would have given their all to get a white knight saviour.
Don’t mean to offend, but it almost seems like that is forgotten and people are actively working against the business.
Do people want to see it fall or feel like it can’t fail again?
Don’t mean to offend, but it almost seems like that is forgotten and people are actively working against the business.
Do people want to see it fall or feel like it can’t fail again?
The other thing is that Staff at most of the airlines are not scared for their jobs anymore. Too much scaremongering from management about what could happen, when in reality we all know the industry is booming. So a lot of feeling from staff that if they want to keep pushing the whole doom and gloom, fine, let it fail, someone else will buy the company and do better by everyone. The two way street has become so one way now that staff have given up giving back and just working the day and forgetting about any extra miles as it's not recognised by anyone, its the same for all airlines in Australia at the moment.
The baggage handlers claims sum it up, they feel overworked, underpaid and undervalued, and they know they don't have many other people wanting to do the job. Which is a problem across the board in aviation now, so many other jobs that are easier with less commute that pay similar or more with far less hassels, security, rules etc.
The baggage handlers claims sum it up, they feel overworked, underpaid and undervalued, and they know they don't have many other people wanting to do the job. Which is a problem across the board in aviation now, so many other jobs that are easier with less commute that pay similar or more with far less hassels, security, rules etc.
Could anyone shed some light on what a current roster is like. Days a week/overnights etc
Number of overnights is one thing that pilots have influence if not control over at the roster bidding stage. Pilots who desire day trips get them, pilots preferring longer trips probably get 2 hotel nights per week.
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Shortly we will open expressions of interest for external applicants to join Virgin Australia as B737 First Officers.
The process for awarding First Officer positions will adhere to the following priority:
Note:
The process for awarding First Officer positions will adhere to the following priority:
- Unfrozen Inactive Pilots awardedin accordance with the terms of the Re-employment Policy;
- Frozen Inactive Pilots will be awarded.
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- Pilots must update their bids to include positions that they are willing and able to accept. The next bid import will occur on Monday 5th September 2022 @ 0700 AEST.
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- The 2 week consideration period (as outlined in the Re-employment policy) will not be available. Pilots that are uncontactable or do not accept the awarded position within 24 hours will be bypassed.
- Training courses may occur within 4 weeks of assignment.
- Frozen Pilots that decline the offered position will have their administrative freeze reset.
- Surplus positions will be offered to external applicants.
Can anyone give a realistic time frame from external application to start date?
My guess is 12 months given the training backlog and inactive pilots bidding in the next bid import, but thought someone in the know might have more info……
My guess is 12 months given the training backlog and inactive pilots bidding in the next bid import, but thought someone in the know might have more info……
Two months for some. People aren't coming back, that's why they are putting out for externals. Talking to a mate who is coming back and was awarded recently, they are having lots of issues filling courses.
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I am not 'in the know', however I would say less than 6mths given how many inactive pilots are turning down their bids
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I am not in the know..... but if you press start application the following comes up- so personally I would restart the process just to be sure.
Existing applicants:If you have previously applied for a position with us, please use the same e-mail address as your previous application.
This will assist us in processing your application as quickly as possible. You can update your e-mail address upon starting your application.
Existing applicants:If you have previously applied for a position with us, please use the same e-mail address as your previous application.
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EBA base salary ($175.5 / hr * 57.5MCG * 13RP) - $131k
28 day Roster, issued 7 days prior
Min 12 DDO
TR bond/freeze - 36months or $45k
Bases I would assume SYD/MEL/ADL, no inactive pilots recalled in July were awarded Brisbane.
Virgin just announced an expanded partnership with Link Airways from the East Coast Capitals to regional ports in NSW, Qld and Vic.
I wouldn't be surprised if AirNorth is next for regional Qld from BNE (and SYD) through their E70s and leased E90s.
I wouldn't be surprised if AirNorth is next for regional Qld from BNE (and SYD) through their E70s and leased E90s.
They are some fairly low minimums. I’m not sure who they are targeting, management always have one group in sight. I assume they are after Rex either seat, Skytrans, and so on. Get them before Jetstar does in the not too far future.
