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Old 6th Sep 2020, 03:44
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Not wanting to get too far off track but Germany just opened a new coal fired power station and is delaying the shut down of its last nuclear power plants.

So the Germans couldn't even do it. Greta must be having a tantrum!
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 03:52
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
.............................Xmas will be the real test to the people’s loyalty to these dictator premiers.

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There is only ONE dictator Premier. Dan Andrews. He is so sh%t scared to do anything positive to get the State moving again because he has been let down badly by his "ministers' (I use the word loosely) The other States are all open for business although some restrictions still apply in NSW because they too stuffed up the quarantine protocols but not as badly as Andrews did in Victoria.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 04:24
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Cannot believe what a joke the Victorian road map is. 5 cases a day and 7 weeks before you’re allowed to sit at a cafe and have a coffee?

People in Sydney are well and truly over the rona, minimal cases bubbling along. Life feels pretty much back to normal if you’re not a party animal type person. I’m thankful Gladys and Kerry have done such an incredible job here, might change my tune if they keep toting with a mask mandate.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 04:35
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Originally Posted by Joker89
All this talk about Sweden but do any of you live there.

1. the hospital system was never over run.
2. Population density is quite high around the city’s with mostly apartment living.
3. Rarely a mask in sight
4. the only industries effected are Hotels and Aviation.
5. The “rights” of the individual have been respected by the politicians and there is no political power plays or fear mongering unlike Australia.

but like everything in this world Australia thinks it knows best. Without a shadow of a doubt this virus was never bad enough for Armageddon. How about we just get on with it. The bats out of the bag.
6. 50% of Swedes live alone.

Isolation is already normal in Sweden so there is reduced need to impose more.

Only 7% of Australians live alone by comparison.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 04:37
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This is all TOO much, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!! !!!
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 04:51
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Originally Posted by 3 Holer
There is only ONE dictator Premier. Dan Andrews. He is so sh%t scared to do anything positive to get the State moving again because he has been let down badly by his "ministers' (I use the word loosely) The other States are all open for business although some restrictions still apply in NSW because they too stuffed up the quarantine protocols but not as badly as Andrews did in Victoria.
If Dan was an Airline captain his licence would be revoked .
If Dan was in the military he would be court-martialled.
If Dan was a surgeon he would be done for malpractice.
If Dan was and still is a premier your given a 11% pay rise.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 05:49
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I think Dan has done fantastic job throughout this entire pandemic; there has only been one occasion where I have been unable to purchase my favorite red!!
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 07:01
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Originally Posted by 3 Holer
There is only ONE dictator Premier. Dan Andrews. He is so sh%t scared to do anything positive to get the State moving again because he has been let down badly by his "ministers' (I use the word loosely).
I think he's actually doing a lot of the right things to get the state out of the pandemic.

What 'positive' measures do you think he should be taking, that would not potentially make the pandemic worse?
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 07:30
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I think he's actually doing a lot of the right things to get the state out of the pandemic.

What 'positive' measures do you think he should be taking, that would not potentially make the pandemic worse?
Yes he probably is doing a lot of right things but he made 1 big mistake & keeps avoiding the questions about it.
Why is it not ok for 1 other household per household to be allowed to visit family,even put a limit of once a week on it if need be & a time limit if need be but right now he is putting so many innocent people completely offside & he needs them to work with him not p..s them off.
The numbers are coming down because the hotel fiasco is coming to an end as far as community transmission is concerned & right now he needs to give the average hard working person in the street something back for what his f..k up has caused them.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 07:37
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I think he's actually doing a lot of the right things to get the state out of the pandemic.

What 'positive' measures do you think he should be taking, that would not potentially make the pandemic worse?
Set the new bench mark for minimum aged care and aged care workers standards of a high/est level - having parts of it a Federal level and parts a state level, just leads to a blame game.

This across the board not just retirement homes.

Not only will it help with COVID-19 but many other age related issues over a foreseeable future.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 08:27
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Set the new bench mark for minimum aged care and aged care workers standards of a high/est level - having parts of it a Federal level and parts a state level, just leads to a blame game.

This across the board not just retirement homes.

Not only will it help with COVID-19 but many other age related issues over a foreseeable future.
Correct,pay people properly,train people properly,ensure the operators run it properly & invest the profits back into it instead of paying dividends & ridiculous salaries to hi flying executives.
Inspect the facilities regularly without giving any notice & when they dont comply,make sure the penalties are severe,they will soon get the message.
Theyre happy to fine people for not wearing a mask or whatever,now do it to these aged care operators & sort this out once & for all.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 09:08
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This virus has been political poison for politicians of all flavours.

It will be for the next crew too if there is not some immediate improvement.

Therein lies the conundrum - improvement in what?

Some will say case numbers, others the economy, all the while ignoring the fact that the two are inextricably linked.

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Old 6th Sep 2020, 09:48
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Hang tight Victorians, he’s got this in the bag...

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Old 6th Sep 2020, 09:53
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Now you’re not making sense Xeptu what makes you think that?

I’m struggling to understand why a retired old folk that’s not in the industry is replying on a pilots forum all day guessing your exit was not voluntary and you’re bitter? why would I have to hand over to females to understand That makes as much sense as Dan Andrews daily marathon press conferences?

Couple of decades of command, I’m glad I never flew with you, you do not embrace change or anyone else opinions you would be the type that’s “alway right”.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 11:18
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Now you’re not making sense Xeptu what makes you think that?

I’m struggling to understand why a retired old folk that’s not in the industry is replying on a pilots forum all day guessing your exit was not voluntary and you’re bitter? why would I have to hand over to females to understand That makes as much sense as Dan Andrews daily marathon press conferences?

Couple of decades of command, I’m glad I never flew with you, you do not embrace change or anyone else opinions you would be the type that’s “alway right”.
You got some serious issues going on there mate. Time you took some time out.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 12:05
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Judging by his 2 hour presser today and the lockdown road map strategy they are after elimination. That's according to their wonderful science and model machine.
Well where did they get that from. No country in the world has eliminated it. NZ failed. Noah saved the animals, the sequel is in the making Dan saves Victorians.

May I add his acting was brilliant today very dour & dreary as per the script written by the produces Fiona Pattern, Samantha Ratnam, Andy Meddick wanted.
We like to thank the sponsors, the tax payers and destruction of business council. Filming will resume tomorrow at 11am.

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Old 6th Sep 2020, 14:42
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If we were to translate the Swedish figures into OZ we would have seen;
15000 deaths
218000 positive cases.
Sweden's economy in the last quarter shrunk 8.6%

Australia had;
753 deaths
26,278 positive cases.
Economy in the last quarter shrunk by 7%

Which would you rather have?
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 15:26
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Originally Posted by 601
If we were to translate the Swedish figures into OZ we would have seen;
15000 deaths
218000 positive cases.
Sweden's economy in the last quarter shrunk 8.6%

Australia had;
753 deaths
26,278 positive cases.
Economy in the last quarter shrunk by 7%

Which would you rather have?
Are you sure those 15000 and 753 died of covid or died with covid.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 20:22
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The real answer will be whose economy is recovering the fastest. It's hard to get back to business if many of your businesses closed due to lockdowns.
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Old 6th Sep 2020, 21:58
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A closed border for no real reason or pay higher taxes/council rates!

State to pay $2bn a year in interest

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The Palaszczuk government will head into the October 31 election with ballooning state debt and a yearly interest bill expected to rise by $500m as a result of the economic turmoil wrought by coronavirus.

Economists forecast Queensland’s fiscal position is likely to have deteriorated since the last update given in July when Treasurer Cameron Dick presents a budget update on Monday.

The Palaszczuk government did not produce a budget this year, citing the pandemic.

Even before the virus, the government was struggling to control its state debt, which had blown out by $1bn in the latter half of last year. Economists believe the state debt will rise above $100bn within two years and could reach up to $110bn by 2024.

In July, Mr Dick revealed Queensland’s share of GST had dropped $2.5bn from the MYFER estimates and there had also been a $1bn decrease in state taxes and royalties.

Meanwhile, expenditure had increased by about $6bn as the state battled to stimulate the economy.

Economist Gene Tunny expected Monday’s update would reveal a deterioration in the budget since the July update, which came prior to Victoria entering stage four lockdown.

He predicted the state’s interest bill would hit $2bn, from a total budget of about $60bn.

“Ultimately it means you have to pay higher taxes and charges than otherwise or (the government) has to spend less on services like health and education,” Mr Tunny told The Australian.

“It means a rising interest bill and the government having to service that debt. They could be doing that for a very long time.”

Mr Tunny predicted fiscal deficits could reach $10bn in 2019-20 and $14bn to $15bn in 2020-21 with a state debt — originally forecast to top $90bn by 2022-23

— of $105bn to $110bn by mid-2024.

Deputy Premier Steven Miles refused to reveal details of the update on Sunday. “Queensland hasn’t been immune to the global pandemic or the global economic repercussions,” he said.
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