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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 08:26
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It's solely a decision for West Australians.
No it's not. It's solely the CHO and Premier that tell me what to do. I don't get to make decisions.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 08:41
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Judging by the crowds at various sporting events being conducted right now, it does seem that South Australians seem to be particularly spooked by the virus. It makes sense as the two largest cities have effectively been living with this for the last two years albeit with some restrictions. Rest of the country are just going through a cognitive adjustment. And yes, the media is the main culprit here.
The media has nothing to do with it, we are not spooked by the virus, we know all about it the same as the rest of the world, we are responding to it's impact.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 09:05
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Well here is that impact….



Your average healthy Australian would do well to worry about dying from something other than Covid 19.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 09:10
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[QUOTE=Icarus2001;11173977]Well here is that impactÖ.

And our impact has little to do with illness and death as a consequence of any virus. anyway I've said all I can, do or don't do.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 09:39
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
Well here is that impactÖ.



Your average healthy Australian would do well to worry about dying from something other than Covid 19.
But McGowan said we need time to get the children vaccinated.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 10:36
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
Well here is that impactÖ.



Your average healthy Australian would do well to worry about dying from something other than Covid 19.
Are you suggesting that there is no causal connection between the outcomes described in those graphs and the mitigation strategies such as vaccinations and lockdowns? To put this question another way, are you suggesting that the graph would be the same without any vaccinations, lockdowns or other actions?
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 11:14
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Good question, I believe it would be very similar. Why would it not?
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 12:05
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Nothing to fear but fear itself .

Car accidents , pneumonia, smoking , bad food , suicide, all kills and we accept this as part of living . We will come to accept covid is just another thing that can get us especially as we age or get sick . The anguish of deciding to allow it be part of life is really a big problem much bigger than covid will ever be .
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 18:53
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But McGowan said we need time to get the children vaccinated.
because they are the primary spreaders. 0-20 age group are the primary source of infection for Omicron and Delta.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 19:04
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
because they are the primary spreaders. 0-20 age group are the primary source of infection for Omicron and Delta.
Good try!




https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100745538

The last year(ish) has been a fairly clear demonstrator that a teacher is more likely to transmit the virus in a school setting than students.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 20:40
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Good try!




https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100745538

The last year(ish) has been a fairly clear demonstrator that a teacher is more likely to transmit the virus in a school setting than students.
If there were equal numbers of students to teachers yes. Remember these numbers are skewed because schools had stringent closure procedures for any outbreaks to prevent spread.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 20:55
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
Good question, I believe it would be very similar. Why would it not?
Because the vaccine prepares the immune system for the virus, and means there is a much lower chance of hostpitilisation and death. Those stats are incontravertible. That you would make this statement is unbelievable.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 20:59
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Originally Posted by Torukmacto
Nothing to fear but fear itself .

Car accidents , pneumonia, smoking , bad food , suicide, all kills and we accept this as part of living . .
No, we don't. We spend billions mitigating the risks of car accidents, From traffic laws to design standards to licencing and enforcemment. We restrict peoples freedom in order to save as many ilves as practical. The same with food standards and mental health measures. We have made huge efforts to reduce the risk from smoking.We don't let ANY activity with that kind of risk just "let rip".
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 21:07
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No, we don't. We spend billions mitigating the risks of car accidents, From traffic laws to design standards to licencing and enforcemment. We restrict peoples freedom in order to save as many ilves as practical. The same with food standards and mental health measures. We have made huge efforts to reduce the risk from smoking.We don't let ANY activity with that kind of risk just "let rip".
Either you live in WA/NZ or if not, you need to move there and you can all be scared together.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 21:25
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Wizofoz, I was talking about the age profile not total numbers.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 21:48
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Either you live in WA/NZ or if not, you need to move there and you can all be scared together.
Thankyou for a meaningless reply that addressed my post in exactley zero meaningful ways.

Do you wear a seatbelt, or is that giving in to fear?
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 21:49
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
Wizofoz, I was talking about the age profile not total numbers.
Fine- though I think you'll find the profile among unvaccinated skwes maore toward younger serious cases.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 22:24
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz
No, we don't. We spend billions mitigating the risks of car accidents, From traffic laws to design standards to licencing and enforcemment. We restrict peoples freedom in order to save as many ilves as practical. The same with food standards and mental health measures. We have made huge efforts to reduce the risk from smoking.We don't let ANY activity with that kind of risk just "let rip".
All correct , Iím not saying donít put a seatbelt on Iím not saying drink to excess or take up smoking . Of course we try to reduce deaths and protect the vulnerable. Get vaccinated , reduce exposure and keep good hygiene but accept there will be infections and deaths like we accept there will be deaths from car accidents and smoking and get on with living .
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 22:32
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Originally Posted by Torukmacto
All correct , Iím not saying donít put a seatbelt on Iím not saying drink to excess or take up smoking . Of course we try to reduce deaths and protect the vulnerable. Get vaccinated , reduce exposure and keep good hygiene but accept there will be infections and deaths like we accept there will be deaths from car accidents and smoking and get on with living .
Yes. AND be aware of the dangers- which is also called being afraid. Now, road laws, mitigation measures, food standards- they vary from place to place depending on a large number of variables- to say way approach is right and another is wrong is short sighted.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 22:36
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We don't accept road deaths, or smoking deaths, which is why we have ever reducing road speeds, and ridiculous slow points to reduce the average speed of traffic. Smoking will most likely be banned by 2030, with some nations already banning it for age groups. Sugar and fatty foods will be the next agenda. Why, because it all comes down to how much cost we are prepared to accept to fund the health system and aged care vs freedom of choice. You wonder why not alcohol, well at present its widespread use for recreation prevents much measures against it, however the forces are already at work to curb that. Prohibition showed that for drugs of addiction curbing general use when it's accepted by the community is just too difficult for sudden changes.
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