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Old 9th Jul 2021, 08:01
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Where are all the Dan haters now? What do they have to say about Gladys?
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 08:33
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https://www.health.gov.au/sites/defa...-july-2021.pdf


I will bite. Gladys is STILL doing a much better job than Dan. Check out the numbers.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 09:11
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
Where are all the Dan haters now? What do they have to say about Gladys?
Here is one. Back from the living dead. Dan must of spiked Glady's drink when they got on the beers.
Remember the tv show "The Comedy Company" ( the last time we laughed) looks like the Premiers and their CHOs are making series 2.
It used to be a weekly show, the new version is a daily show.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 09:13
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Mark McGowan has just said that anyone from WA that is in NSW should come home now. He said that the hard border with NSW is about to get harder.

Sounds like no one from NSW will be allowed in.. no exemptions at all. Hope I am wrong.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 10:52
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Originally Posted by SOPS
Mark McGowan has just said that anyone from WA that is in NSW should come home now. He said that the hard border with NSW is about to get harder.

Sounds like no one from NSW will be allowed in.. no exemptions at all. Hope I am wrong.
He does seem to get his medical advice from his Kellogg's morning brain farts. (can be quoted as such)

He has the consistency of extremums diarrhoea.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 10:57
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Everything improved in Victoria when Dan fell down the stairs and took some time off
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 10:58
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Originally Posted by Bend alot
He does seem to get his medical advice from his Kellogg's morning brain farts. (can be quoted as such)

He has the consistency of extremums diarrhoea.
I assume you don’t think there is a problem in NSW??
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 10:59
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
Where are all the Dan haters now?
Still here buddy. Bring back Merlino.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 11:32
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Originally Posted by SOPS
I assume you don’t think there is a problem in NSW??
There isn't a problem in "New South Wales".

There is a very definite problem in "Sydney" and as much as McGowan would like to believe that makes up most of the state, a great many people still live outside it.

Broken Hill is closer to Adelaide than Sydney, Ballina closer to Brisbane, and Albury closer to Melbourne. None of whose residents would fly via Sydney to get to Perth, but they are locked out by default, which is nothing more than a cheap political scaremongering and in can in no way be supported by "health advice".
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 11:37
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Here is a Harvard professors view.

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Old 9th Jul 2021, 12:20
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In a nut shell there's two sides to this debacle, you either agree wth the lunatics or you don't, pick one and live by it!
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 20:20
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International travel is looking good I’m 2022 hahahahahahaha. 2024 if we’re lucky. Can’t even agree on a strategy to keep our internal borders open. I’m Glad Gladys is taking the current approach and not “falling in to line” as the emperor of the West calls it.
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Old 9th Jul 2021, 22:27
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I’m Glad Gladys is taking the current approach and not “falling in to line” as the emperor of the West calls it.
This is Berejiklian yesterday:Berejiklian warned unless there was a turnaround, the lockdown could be extended beyond the three weeks.

“Unless there is a dramatic change, unless there is a dramatic turnaround in the numbers, I can’t see how we would be in a position to ease restrictions by next Friday,” she said.

The NSW premier talked down health minister Brad Hazzard’s earlier comments that the state might have to learn to live with the virus, and said case numbers would need to be as close to zero as possible before lockdown would end.

“No state or nation or any country on the planet can live with the Delta variant when our vaccination rates are so low. So please, do not think that the NSW government thinks we can live with this when our rate of vaccination is only at 9%,” she said.

“When you only have 9% of your community vaccinated, opening up before you get as close to that zero number as possible, it means you would subject thousands and thousands to hospitalisation and death.”

“I don’t want anyone to feel like that. But if you are not doing the right thing, please know that we will have to have the law come down on you, because the simple fact is, people doing the wrong thing means that all of us suffer,” she said.


I don’t see how that differs from the basic approach every other state is taking or is “learning to live with” the virus.



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Old 9th Jul 2021, 23:15
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Originally Posted by SOPS
I assume you don’t think there is a problem in NSW??
From the loads I’ve seen, there’s probably less than 200 people a day flying into WA from NSW at the moment, with all being tested and going into quarantine.

So I’d say the current measures are more than enough and anything more is a gross over reaction from McClown. But that’s how he operates, so who knows.
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Old 10th Jul 2021, 00:01
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If she followed the approach of other states she would lock everyone up 5 days no movement just stop living. She is still keeping a balance. All that’s affected is a few coffee shops that will bounce back and tourism/aviation which will bounce back. Rest of the world has moved on so should we.
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Originally Posted by Foxxster
Here is a Harvard professors view.

https://youtu.be/8OLoqg22M7M
Worth watching but probably needs to be tempered by noting that Professor Kulldorff is a co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration, essentially a push for natural herd immunity through community spread with Focussed Protection for the vulnerable. Kulldorff, a Swede, backed Sweden's broadly Focussed Protection approach to managing COVID-19 and seems to remain wedded to that style of management.

Kulldorff routinely gives out-and-out nonsense oxygen by endorsing or spreading it on social media. His latest foray into the twilight zone is circulating lockdownsceptics.org's hysteria about New Zealand hospitals being 'flooded' with children suffering respiratory illness because lockdowns prevented them from acquiring general immunities through socialising.

The facts of the matter are that there has been an outbreak of respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) centred on Wellington, New Zealand. RSV is typically very common in the cooler/colder months and generally affects infants up to two years of age (older children and adults can be affected but most just register it as a cold). RSV infections in New Zealand had been at record lows coming into this outbreak, 98 percent below normal levels. There had been a similar near absence of RSV in Australia over the last 18 months which ended with a spike in March-April this year. Notably in Australia the RSV surges started in New South Wales and Western Australia; two states that had not used lockdowns (as opposed to lockouts) anywhere near as widely as other states during the period prior to the March-April 2021 RSV outbreaks.

The Wellington outbreak is thought to be linked to the opening of travel under the Trans-Tasman Bubble.

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Old 10th Jul 2021, 00:40
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Originally Posted by SHVC
If she followed the approach of other states she would lock everyone up 5 days no movement just stop living. She is still keeping a balance. All that’s affected is a few coffee shops that will bounce back and tourism/aviation which will bounce back. Rest of the world has moved on so should we.
yeah lots of balance.....
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Old 10th Jul 2021, 00:42
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
..................... Notably in Australia the RSV surges started in New South Wales and Western Australia; two states that had not used lock-downs (as opposed to lockouts) anywhere near as widely as other states..........
Not sure how you work that one out Mick.
WA has had five lock-downs (I think), four of them being short, sharp lock-downs.

If people are restricted to their homes except where they cannot work from home or allowed out for shopping for essentials, restricted exercise, etc, etc. then I, and Mark, call it a lock-down.
What makes you think that that is not a lock-down? What criteria has not been met?

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Old 10th Jul 2021, 00:47
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Originally Posted by Foxxster
Here is a Harvard professors view.
His views are an outlier. He’s still pushing the Swedish Herd Immunity idea that the Swedes themselves admitted was a failure. His hasn’t presented numbers or studies on Delta, just some dismissive sentences, there have been studies printed with data showing Delta leads to an 85% rise in hospitalisations, and somewhat more infectious than Alpha. But these are amongst the unvaccinated, and the aforementioned professor also has some anti-vaxxer views. He called for vaccinations to be stopped for young people but then thought it find for them to contract the virus naturally.

Plus Sky News Outsiders? Of all the nutjob Sky News After Dark presenters those guys could qualify as the most nutty, they are still pushing stolen US election conspiracy theories months after the event. Just red meat to attract lunatics.
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Old 10th Jul 2021, 00:53
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Originally Posted by SHVC
If she followed the approach of other states she would lock everyone up 5 days no movement just stop living. She is still keeping a balance. All that’s affected is a few coffee shops that will bounce back and tourism/aviation which will bounce back. Rest of the world has moved on so should we.
The lockdown is costing $2 billion a week. It’s predicted to extend weeks, even months beyond the start. The other states that went into a short lockdown immediately lasted 4/5 days. And now they’re out of it.

It’s more than just a “few coffee shops” affected.....

EDIT: Sorry $1 billion a week. It’s still a massive hit on the economy


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