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Old 7th Jul 2020, 04:36
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"The point of that is that even if they put nursing and healthcare staff on quarantine hotels staffing rosters, COVID might have got out anyway. Something other governments are starting to realise by calling and restricting the number of inbound OS pax."

That is incorrect also.

The inbound numbers are being limited because quarantine facilities are reaching capacity.

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Old 7th Jul 2020, 06:30
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Originally Posted by currawong View Post
The inbound numbers are being limited because quarantine facilities are reaching capacity.
Incorrect.

The number of international arrivals currently in Vic quarantine is not particularly high at all as at today. In fact, not even all hotels that have been used for quarantine are currently in use today.

Inbound international flights have been turned away to other Aus destinations so that Vic can improve it's quarantine practices and procedures. While the practices are being changed wouldn't be a great time to receive hundreds of people per day.
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 06:35
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 06:35
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"The point of that is that even if they put nursing and healthcare staff on quarantine hotels staffing rosters, COVID might have got out anyway".

Each Vic quarantine hotel has a team of full time nursing staff stationed at it (around the clock). There are also full time Department of Health and Human Services staff on site at each hotel (around the clock).

I personally know of one nurse and several health staff that have become infected through hotel quarantine arrangements.
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 06:37
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post
Julyís roster is about to go down the Toilet.

Dan about to isolate Melbourne. Geelong to escape. News coming out soon.
Speaking of toilets as of right now all dunny paper yibbida yibbida that is all.
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 06:48
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Melbourne is down for six weeks. Hope they have lots of toilet paper. And South Australia is calling in the Army to close off its border to Victoria.
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 07:07
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Originally Posted by ozbiggles View Post
You are right, I mean the Ruby Princess only had 340 cases of Covid and itís not like that many people died on it...
Bit like the MAX cases - but they all died!

Total the number of pax and the resulted deaths on the cruise ships & you will find they have lower numbers than general city out breaks in many countries, given the average age - even more surprising.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-...n_cruise_ships

Diamand & Ruby Princess are outstanding exceptions in case numbers.
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 07:38
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Originally Posted by Stickshift3000 View Post
Incorrect.

The number of international arrivals currently in Vic quarantine is not particularly high at all as at today. In fact, not even all hotels that have been used for quarantine are currently in use today.

Inbound international flights have been turned away to other Aus destinations so that Vic can improve it's quarantine practices and procedures. While the practices are being changed wouldn't be a great time to receive hundreds of people per day.
Stick, compressor stall said "other governments".

One of which said this today -

"We want to make sure that we keep people safe in our hotels, but if we are inundated with a lot of returnees to Western Australia we will struggle to provide the level of care that we expect."

FWIW the VIC capacity for providing quarantine has shown itself to be very limited indeed.

Unfortunately.




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Old 7th Jul 2020, 20:50
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Worth a read & watch. To the imbecile in charge of hotel security (Ie Dan) thanks for putting the economy, our jobs and mental health even further back...

https://www.tr.news/daniel-andrews-a...Gz5N3ThWbSz0SA
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 21:21
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There are still many repatriation flights being organised, simple fact.

Yes the government decides where they must go, ultimately quarantine decision.

I fear while plane loads are still inbound the flare ups will continue.
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 21:59
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Originally Posted by Global Aviator View Post
I fear while plane loads are still inbound the flare ups will continue.
Iím afraid the genie might be out of the bottle in VIC. I hope Iím wrong but itís worse in VIC than it has been at any time. It needs to be locked down hard now. Not some half arsed effort. You can still get a hair cut FFS.
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 22:56
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Originally Posted by Green.Dot View Post
Worth a read & watch. To the imbecile in charge of hotel security (Ie Dan) thanks for putting the economy, our jobs and mental health even further back...

https://www.tr.news/daniel-andrews-a...Gz5N3ThWbSz0SA
So you believe everything this guy is saying?
The BLM protestors were told not to attend the protest but did they listen,each & every 1 of them decided to attend against every piece of advice given & even if it had been made illegal,do u think they would have all stayed home?
I agree the hotel security could definitely have been handled better but 1 person(as in andrews) cant be in every part of the state every minute of the day,the actual guards are the ones who have most to answer for & the companies they work for.
Its very easy to criticise but remember its not the premier or anyone else in his government thats out there & not adhering to the rules,its members of the community continuing to ignore what theyre being asked to do.
And before you ask,NO I DIDNT VOTE FOR HIM.
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 23:26
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Originally Posted by blubak View Post
I agree the hotel security could definitely have been handled better but 1 person(as in andrews) cant be in every part of the state every minute of the day,the actual guards are the ones who have most to answer for & the companies they work for.
Its very easy to criticise but remember its not the premier or anyone else in his government thats out there & not adhering to the rules,its members of the community continuing to ignore what theyre being asked to do.
And before you ask,NO I DIDNT VOTE FOR HIM.
I believe the point is that Dan Andrews put these security companies in place to take care of the quarantine. Every other state has used police (local or federal) or the defence force, along side health and border staff. Dan used a contractor, who then used a sub contractor, so there is no accountability. When there is no accountability, you have people who donít care, you have people that have less training, and this leads the breaks in protocol. So it falls back on Dan and his decision to use his union backed security companies, instead of government employees.
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 23:36
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It looks like Josh frying-pan is about to extend job keeper, aviation keeper, whatever keeper. Your the man Dan.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 00:08
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Originally Posted by Green.Dot View Post
Worth a read & watch. To the imbecile in charge of hotel security (Ie Dan) thanks for putting the economy, our jobs and mental health even further back...

https://www.tr.news/daniel-andrews-a...Gz5N3ThWbSz0SA
Blokes who post videos like this need to be held accountable.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 00:50
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080 View Post
It looks like Josh frying-pan is about to extend job keeper, aviation keeper, whatever keeper. Your the man Dan.
What is the point of your post ?
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 00:56
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if Josh goes ahead with Aviation keeper, where will it stop. Tourism keeper? Hospitality keeper? Taxi driver keeper it will never end. Aviation has been hit hard but not only aviation as been affected. The umbilical chord needs to be cut at some point and September 27th should still be it, and yes jobs will go, even possibly mine.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 01:12
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer View Post
Blokes who post videos like this need to be held accountable.
The commentator in this video really needs to have a look at himself,if he thinks he knows so much why is he associated with some news organisation thats basically unheard of.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 01:26
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
if Josh goes ahead with Aviation keeper, where will it stop. Tourism keeper? Hospitality keeper? Taxi driver keeper it will never end. Aviation has been hit hard but not only aviation as been affected. The umbilical chord needs to be cut at some point and September 27th should still be it, and yes jobs will go, even possibly mine.
Not really. The government has chosen to shut the industry down, to protect a minority. They should also protect those who have had their jobs sacrificed for this. Aviation keeper should align with UK style wage subsidy and be 80% of persons wage up to $5k a month limit.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 01:41
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
if Josh goes ahead with Aviation keeper, where will it stop. Tourism keeper? Hospitality keeper? Taxi driver keeper it will never end. Aviation has been hit hard but not only aviation as been affected. The umbilical chord needs to be cut at some point and September 27th should still be it, and yes jobs will go, even possibly mine.
The difference is that those industries, while they wonít thrive, can still survive on business from within each state. The aviation industry in this country relies on intrastate travel.
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