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Old 3rd Nov 2020, 23:28
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Vic has just scored 5 ducks, going for a double hat trick tomorrow that WA bloke and the QLD matriarch must be getting worried.
What, open the border to the leper colony you must be joking?

On the contrary

The USA records 60,000 cases a day and all 50 state borders are open and the amount of
aircraft activity is frantic on Radar24 almost like a normal pre covid day.
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Old 4th Nov 2020, 00:55
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NSW will open border with Victoria on November 23

To her credit, Hot Mess Gladys seems to be the Premier taking the most practical approach to border closures in this country.
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Old 4th Nov 2020, 02:15
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Originally Posted by brokenagain View Post
NSW will open border with Victoria on November 23

To her credit, Hot Mess Gladys seems to be the Premier taking the most practical approach to border closures in this country.
Yes i think her decisions come from dealing with reality not fantasy unlike queen p to her north.
Maybe her decision to hook up with that guy wasnt the smartest but lots of us make wrong decisions in our personal life.
It reinforces that playing politics needs to be put aside as rebuilding the country with common sense decisions is what is needed.
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Old 4th Nov 2020, 02:40
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She is the best premier in the country. Who cares what she did or who she did in her personal life nothing illegal.

NSW is doing the best in the world. Maybe QLD and WA could take some notes
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Old 4th Nov 2020, 08:58
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She is the best premier in the country. Who cares what she did or who she did in her personal life nothing illegal.
I don't entirely buy her line "I didn't know or care about his finances" - especially when she's reported to have told him "I don't need to know about that". To me, it sounds like she knew, or suspected he was up to something dodgy and wanted plausible deniability.

That being said, ICAC hasn't found her to 1. Have actual knowledge about ol' mate's dodginess, 2. Participated in said dodginess or 3. Been dodgy herself. So I'm happy to give her the benefit of the doubt at this point, and roundly applaud her handling of the COVID issues. I do think they screwed the pooch with the Ruby Princess, but that may well have been the wakeup call they needed to get their shyte sorted and deliver the results they have from then on.

NSW has processed more international arrivals than anyone else, has had several minor outbreaks thus far, managed to keep their borders open to every state bar one and still managed to keep the states economy plugging away. That's worthy of a in anyone's book.
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Old 5th Nov 2020, 00:20
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080 View Post
The USA records 60,000 cases a day and all 50 state borders are open and the amount of
aircraft activity is frantic on Radar24 almost like a normal pre covid day.
ExpressJet Shuts Down, Idling 3,000 Airline Workers
American Airlines begins furloughs for 19,000 workers
Airlines Near 50,000 Job Cuts as American, United Feel Squeeze
Miami Air ends operations after 29 years

And that's only for now, more expected next year because the dysfunctional US government can't provide assistance for the airline industry.

Letting the virus rip through the nation doesn't mean boom times for airlines. It's the opposite.

In comparison:
China Southern Turns Third Quarter Profit Amid Rebounding Market
How major South Korean airlines made profits during pandemic
Air New Zealand will operate 90 per cent of its pre-COVID-19 domestic schedule

Nations that took strict initial measures and dealt with the pandemic seriously are doing better and rebounding. It's obvious which path Australia should follow.


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Old 5th Nov 2020, 01:18
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
ExpressJet Shuts Down, Idling 3,000 Airline Workers
American Airlines begins furloughs for 19,000 workers
Airlines Near 50,000 Job Cuts as American, United Feel Squeeze
Miami Air ends operations after 29 years

And that's only for now, more expected next year because the dysfunctional US government can't provide assistance for the airline industry.

Letting the virus rip through the nation doesn't mean boom times for airlines. It's the opposite.

In comparison:
China Southern Turns Third Quarter Profit Amid Rebounding Market
How major South Korean airlines made profits during pandemic
Air New Zealand will operate 90 per cent of its pre-COVID-19 domestic schedule

Nations that took strict initial measures and dealt with the pandemic seriously are doing better and rebounding. It's obvious which path Australia should follow.
While I don't disagree with your conclusion, you fail to pick up that the key factor in all of this is government support. The USA's CARES Act provided a level of support for airlines provided they didn't furlough. That expired in October and so now the cash tap has been turned off, you'll see the US carriers now really start to pull things back where they can, while also grabbing the opportunity to make some cash where there is opportunity to do so. By comparison, China is subsidising their carriers to the hilt, Air NZ has been drawing on a government loan, and Korea has also helped to provide assistance to some carriers.

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Old 5th Nov 2020, 06:31
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Originally Posted by ebt View Post
While I don't disagree with your conclusion, you fail to pick up that the key factor in all of this is government support. The USA's CARES Act provided a level of support for airlines provided they didn't furlough. That expired in October and so now the cash tap has been turned off, you'll see the US carriers now really start to pull things back where they can, while also grabbing the opportunity to make some cash where there is opportunity to do so. By comparison, China is subsidising their carriers to the hilt, Air NZ has been drawing on a government loan, and Korea has also helped to provide assistance to some carriers.
Government support is essential for the airline sector to survive whilst pandemic control measures are in place and then regrow once the control measures have been lifted. I wish our federal governmetn was doing far more for our aviation sector.

But the main part of my argument was to debunk the notion that if we just dropped all controls and essentially turn a blind eye to the virus then everything would get back to normal. As the US has shown this is not the case.
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Old 5th Nov 2020, 09:41
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NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian has hit out at her Queensland counterpart for "rubbing in" the Maroons' State of Origin win via text message instead of taking the state border issue seriously.
Ms Berejiklian said on Sunday night she sent a text to Annastacia Palaszczuk to congratulate her on her re-election as Queensland Premier and reiterate her desire to speak about the border closure to Sydney.
But she said she received no reply until last night when Ms Palaszczuk bragged about Queensland defeating NSW in the Origin I match.
"She replied 'Queenslander, great game' or something to that effect," Ms Berejiklian said today.
"She didn't mention borders or thanks for the congratulations.
"I didn't know whether to be shocked or bemused frankly."

What Gladys is saying the woman up north needs some psychological help.


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Old 5th Nov 2020, 19:08
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NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian has hit out at her Queensland counterpart for "rubbing in" the Maroons' State of Origin win via text message instead of taking the state border issue seriously.
Ms Berejiklian said on Sunday night she sent a text to Annastacia Palaszczuk to congratulate her on her re-election as Queensland Premier and reiterate her desire to speak about the border closure to Sydney.
But she said she received no reply until last night when Ms Palaszczuk bragged about Queensland defeating NSW in the Origin I match.
"She replied 'Queenslander, great game' or something to that effect," Ms Berejiklian said today.
"She didn't mention borders or thanks for the congratulations.
"I didn't know whether to be shocked or bemused frankly."

What Gladys is saying the woman up north needs some psychological help.
Says it all about where her priorities lie,here she goes again with her childish mind games.
Didnt see her respond to not being allowed into the theme park last week,maybe they should have let her in & locked her up in fantasy land,obviously thats where she lives most of the time.
Again i say theres no doubt the victorian govt has a lot to answer for with the hotel quarantine f up but at least now there seems to be a genuine process in opening up again whereas with queen p every day brings nothing except excuses with no relevance to any facts.
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Old 6th Nov 2020, 03:08
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080 View Post

What Gladys is saying the woman up north needs some psychological help.
Maybe gladys should harden the **** up and start looking at her own corruption and that of her party
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 01:27
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Victoria has now scored 15 ducks in a row. 15000-20000 tests a day. Still not good enough for the Queen of QLD or the King of WA.
Just following the science. Got to protect our cane toads from getting covid.


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Old 14th Nov 2020, 01:39
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Victoria has now scored 15 ducks in a row. 15000-20000 tests a day. Still not good enough for the Queen of QLD or the King of WA.
Just following the science. Got to protect our cane toads from getting covid.
but dodgy anna chukka is allowing up to 100% crowd numbers at Suncorp on Wed night at leagie game. There could be up to 52,500 at game with absolutely no social distancing whatsoever.

Word is, they got greedy with ticket prices (just like with wallabies last Sat-dumped good seats for $49 at last minute) & now dumping seats to try & fill the place + public servants are being given free tickets. Just lucky they got a pay rise so they can buy rum & cokes for $12 a can.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 01:48
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080 View Post
Victoria has now scored 15 ducks in a row. 15000-20000 tests a day. Still not good enough for the Queen of QLD or the King of WA.
Just following the science. Got to protect our cane toads from getting covid.
I think WA have always said 28 days of no community transmission to allow free travel between states.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 03:47
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Who cares about WA and QLD, they have not proven themself of being capable of handling this pandemic be best if borders did remain shut I don’t want dirty QLD ppl in my state low testing rates for all we know it’s tuning rampart through QLD they’re also incapable of managing this virus. VIC is the same at least DA had been willing to learn NSW playbook and by all accounts could be very well under control down there.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 04:58
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NZ has just recorded a case in a person arriving from NSW....

So im sure there is still virus circulating in your precious NSW!
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 05:50
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A person who arrived on 1 Nov....
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 06:05
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My point is NSW can deal with it and handle it. Other states can’t
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 06:19
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My point is NSW can deal with it and handle it. Other states canít
Doesn't sound like it
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 09:55
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Who cares about WA and QLD,
Obviously from your vast amounts of posts YOU do.

I was happy to wait for the WA border to open, just hope the TOOLS stay out.
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