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Old 31st Oct 2020, 22:34
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This Labor win has just proven our theory that those who have been largely unaffected by COVID, (ie not in tourism, hospitality, travel, airlines etc) are unwilling to accept any level of risk to their own little bubble moving forward.

Let hope that if a vaccine comes out it works to some degree!

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Old 31st Oct 2020, 23:33
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Originally Posted by Green.Dot
This Labor win has just proven our theory that those who have been largely unaffected by COVID, (ie not in tourism, hospitality, travel, airlines etc) are unwilling to accept any level of risk to their own little bubble moving forward.

Let hope that if a vaccine comes out it works to some degree!
Yes thats now 2 for 2 with Covid elections.
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 23:45
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Well, we will see WA closed until March to VIC and NSW their 28 day demand will not be met. I really wish Gladys would also play hard ball and only allow NSW resident enter internationally. If you’re QLD, WA, VIC or anywhere else you enter via that state border.
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 23:48
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I'm not surprised the heartless Palachook got back in, she rode the Covid bullshit fear wave right up to the sheeples doors to create hysteria , she's one cunning politician!

Australia us such a divided country, there's no unity, that's our biggest issue as a nation!
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 00:12
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Originally Posted by machtuk
I'm not surprised the heartless Palachook got back in, she rode the Covid bullshit fear wave right up to the sheeples doors to create hysteria , she's one cunning politician!

Australia us such a divided country, there's no unity, that's our biggest issue as a nation!
Get over it. She won fair and square. Itís obvious a majority of people support decisive action controlling this pandemic, as evidenced by this election, the NZ election and Dan Aís and Mark McGís majority opinion support in Vic and WA. The Far right vote collapsed (One Nation abandoned and Cliveís vote non existent) and despite every paper in the state being owned by Murdoch she still prevailed, with an increased vote share.

Donít right wingers criticise lefties for not listening to the ďsilent majorityĒ and labelling their opponents as ďdeplorablesĒ? Youíve basically done the same. When you work with a leader instead of against them and donít insult the voting public youíll probably find youíll be more successful.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 00:16
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Get over it. She won fair and square. Itís obvious a majority of people support decisive action controlling this pandemic, as evidenced by this election.
I think Machtuk has gotten over it- he even acknowledged she is cunning. We all have to get used to it, this is the new norm in life and politics, like it or not.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 00:22
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Yes she won democracy is a brilliant thing, just like seniority not perfect but it’s the system we have. Good luck to the state of QLD moving forward I hope you can support your own local tourist industry. So far data has proven otherwise but we will see.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 00:40
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Deb Flek lost more than Queen P won - if you can't land a blow when the state's had years of mismanagement, financial decline and ongoing hardship (currently under the excuse of CV19) something's wrong.

So accepting she won the politics one simple Q: is her attitude doing the right thing by the state?? A basic Yes or No will suffice.
The politics is one thing, the direction and future of the state a totally separate matter.

I was thinking of using the word leadership but when you have a one trick pony saying "I saved you all from death, you must vote for me" stuff all leadership to be found IMHO.

On an unrelated topic - any bets on how long before Jackie Trad is found a suitable state government sinecure with appropriate salary/lurks and perks for the life of the government??
I'd guess probably around xmas/new year when the usual dump of releases/statements happens to a populace who are tuned out for the holidays.

Anyhow apparently Queenslanders reckon another 4 years of Queen P's the way to go for the state.
God bless 'em, good luck with that.
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Itís almost like the majority of QLDers support the Premiers policyís.
A quick look at the trends suggests that it is the older demographic who've swung away from the LNP and One Nation towards the perceived safety of last 7 months, particularly in areas like the Sunshine Coast and Hervey Bay. Like all opposition parties in Australia (and probably NZ as well), their ability to be seen and heard was buried in an avalanche of Premier's and CHO's press conferences extolling the virtues of their policy "to keep you Queenslanders (insert other jurisdiction here) safe". Even Albo's federal mob are finding it hard to be heard despite Senate Estimates revelations.

Most elections revolve around the respective leaders but in this almost one-issue poll, the incumbent Premier/PM is always going to have a head start.

Anyhow apparently Queenslanders reckon another 4 years of Queen P's the way to go for the state.
Whilst not a fan of Annastacia, I do hope she sees out the full term. Even a few months of the smarmy, smirking Deputy Premier being elevated to the top job would be too much.

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Old 1st Nov 2020, 01:03
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Originally Posted by machtuk
I'm not surprised the heartless Palachook got back in, she rode the Covid bullshit fear wave right up to the sheeples doors to create hysteria , she's one cunning politician!

Australia us such a divided country, there's no unity, that's our biggest issue as a nation!
It's pala chuck not chook. In Qld she is known as chukka.

Her father, the former member, was always referred to as pala chuck.

Spin drs thought pala chez sounded less foreign.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 04:10
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Well, we will see WA closed until March to VIC and NSW their 28 day demand will not be met. I really wish Gladys would also play hard ball and only allow NSW resident enter internationally. If youíre QLD, WA, VIC or anywhere else you enter via that state border.
In a perfect world people would be able to repatriate directly to their home town. Unfortunately due to the caps it simply canít happen. People will book flights to the first Australian city they can get to. In many cases spending ridiculous amounts of money.

Vic screwed the pooch on quarantine as we all know. Quarantine does right works, nowhere should be afraid of repatriations and quarantine. If done right.

With no international flights to Melbourne or Darwin (apart from the Gov saving the day flights) that makes it impossible for people to fly to where they live if thatís home.
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Nope, they should repatriate to their home state, thats their elected leader to raise the cap to allow them to been almost 8 months now time for other states to do their bit and stop hiding behind their false achievements. QLD, WA, TAS all took the easy options, as AP has said NSW is a bees d!ck away from an outbreak lets not let it get to that. NSW should not be left with the bill of residents of other states. I understand they pay for hotel, but NSW picks the tab up for testing, supply of law enforcement, bus hire the list goes on.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 04:55
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Nope, they should repatriate to their home state, thats their elected leader to raise the cap to allow them to been almost 8 months now time for other states to do their bit and stop hiding behind their false achievements. QLD, WA, TAS all took the easy options, as AP has said NSW is a bees d!ck away from an outbreak lets not let it get to that. NSW should not be left with the bill of residents of other states. I understand they pay for hotel, but NSW picks the tab up for testing, supply of law enforcement, bus hire the list goes on.
I agree 100%, fact is though it is not possible. Iíve had many friends trying to come home, 3,4,5,6,+ cancelled flights, bit the bullet and pay for a first class or business class ticket to increase the chances. Still flights cancelled. Hence why people will jump on a flight to anywhere possible, you canít blame the person.

The government or rather lack of unity in government has caused this mess. One must quarantine where one lands, the only exception the very few international transits that can be approved. It is a cluster fcuk of huge proportions. The general Aussie doesnít realise how bad the situation is. There are over 30,000 still registered with DFAT wanting to come home. Who knows the real numbers with not everyone registered with DFAT.

States are the ones who decide the caps not the feds, hence it is even more of a cluster. There is little unity, we have all seen it in the media, leaders blaming ScoMo and the other way around. Whoís on first?
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I understand that. My point is, if Premiers want to spruce about keeping their residents “safe” well, the rules should change to reflect. NSW residents can only book a flight bound to Sydney. QLD residents can only book for Brisbane and Perth etc. I bet the mantra will change. End of the day why is Gladys worried about QLD, WA SA residents stuck over seas she doesn’t need their vote we all know Covid is now a political machine.
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NSW now has the most active cases out of any state.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 05:23
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
I understand that. My point is, if Premiers want to spruce about keeping their residents ďsafeĒ well, the rules should change to reflect. NSW residents can only book a flight bound to Sydney. QLD residents can only book for Brisbane and Perth etc. I bet the mantra will change. End of the day why is Gladys worried about QLD, WA SA residents stuck over seas she doesnít need their vote we all know Covid is now a political machine.
I agree with you. If only everything was perfect. Not only do people have to pay huge airfares to go where they donít want to go, when they get out itís another airfare and more travel......

Straya!
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NSW now has the most active cases out of any state.
And that is why each state resident needs to fly directly to their capital city, of the cap is to low email your local MP and raise the issue, all other state residents go on our tally makes us look bad when in fact NSW is doing the best by a country mile.
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
I understand that. My point is, if Premiers want to spruce about keeping their residents ďsafeĒ well, the rules should change to reflect. NSW residents can only book a flight bound to Sydney. QLD residents can only book for Brisbane and Perth etc. I bet the mantra will change. End of the day why is Gladys worried about QLD, WA SA residents stuck over seas she doesnít need their vote we all know Covid is now a political machine.
And how does that work, when for instance, from the USA, can only fly into NSW? ACT, TAS, NT dont have any international flights....
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They can take it up with their member of parliament. At this stage I only care NSW residents fly in to Sydney to keep them safe.
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They can take it up with their member of parliament. At this stage I only care NSW residents fly in to Sydney to keep them safe.
Ok Iíll leave this now. Australia is a country, it should be a united country, it is far from that.

Quarantine is in place for a reason, sure we can debate home quarantine and other methods but the gov has decided it hotel quarantine.

Australians stuck around the world just need to get home, who really cares where? Yes in an ideal world to where they want to go but that ainít happening. Welcome them anywhere, do a little research and see the heartache many have gone though to get home.

Back to open borders -

It is great to see Aus opening up, bring on domestic tourism!
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