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Old 19th Jul 2017, 13:27
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So no takers from inside VA for the F100 FO jobs posted today on AFAP? Surely the Fokker would be a better proposition than the ATR? Externals are not taking the dangling carrot on the F100 or ATR or 777 SO as they know VA are severly understaffed on the 737. Just a matter of time hey boys and girls? In addition the current ATR guys are leaving and will continue to leave on a weekly basis as they face a cap and can't transfer to the 737 as an FO or SO on the 777, except for several guys recently, and apparently out of order of seniority, equating to more that will walk.
Suddenly you have a fleet that will be grounded, Alliance will then also take all the NSW flying, the loyal customer will be confused as to why an Uber turned up after ordering the Silver Service Taxi, then as Johnny Young used to say after a great night of singing and dancing 'good night Australia'. Very sad...
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 13:43
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Alliance turn up to do a Virgin flight.

Just like Cobham and Network do for Qantas.
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 18:25
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Except that the aircraft and crew (mostly) say QantasLink on them.
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 21:48
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Yep thats all in a days work with the stellar management team at VA Littlebird!
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Old 19th Jul 2017, 22:36
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Not sure about some of "Littlebird"comments.

ATR crew may not want to live in Perth and work for VARA hence why no one applied. I haven't noticed to many resignations this yr, most of the mass attrition off the ATR occurred mid to late last year seems to be stabilized now. as for positions issued out of seniority not sure how you figure that, some ATR crew have been awarded 73 positions these crew were high on the VARA list if it looks like some got a spot when it looks like they shouldn't I could put it down to a couple reasons, They did not apply or they failed the Psych, sim, interview or all components and at the end of the day the company only need to release 10% off the ATR east coast. given the total numbers they awarded to ATR crew that percentage has been fulfilled so this would mean VA will hire DE FO off the street.
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 05:42
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SHVC. Fair enough re Perth and the F100.
I've had the cap explained to me in detail. How's that working for the company with retention in mind?
As far as there not being many ATR drivers who have left in the past 6 months or less, compared to last year.
Let's see...3 checkies to QLink, 1 checkie management pilot to Cobham, 3 to Jetgo, includes 1 checkie, 2 to Jetstar, 2 to Alliance, 1 to a Polynesian carrier out of BN. That's 12 recently alone that I know of. That doesn't sound like a lot, although out of only about 80 pilots in total, that equates to a master warning.
VA can stick to their 10% cap and recruit directly to the 737, but at what cost? Let's touch base again once that hapenns and compare our departure metrics then.
I assure you things are not rosey here as well. In fact far from it. What I can tell you is that we do have a process in place to dig us out.
CASA have only issued a handful of ATPL's in the past 12 months. More cadets is not the answer for the short/medium term either, as they won't have the experience for at least 5 years, not to mention the attitude for at least 10 years.
She'll Be Right Mate!

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Old 20th Jul 2017, 05:47
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001 View Post
Alliance turn up to do a Virgin flight.

Just like Cobham and Network do for Qantas.
Yeah, except Cobham and Network are not "crosshired"........
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 21:50
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4 ATR's? Did I hear this correctly?

What's the point? Sounds like avoiding loss of face.

Gradually everyone of those guys will go to greener pastures if not guaranteed a slot on the NG. A total catch 22 as the ATR style of operation wouldn't be one forgiving to an inexperienced group. Turbo props are done and done well by Qlink and dare I say it REX. White flag time.

Expensive experiments.
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 22:11
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Anyone know when interviewing will start for B737 Aussie east coast slots?
I was told its already started for Perth positions?
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 23:59
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You seem to be all over it little bird but there is a storey to go with why some of those checkers went to link but I won't blow the lid on that one. Again the 10% i personally voted no as we gave up a lot for that, look how much crap it is causing for pilots and even more for the company I'd almost think think the company even regrets it also, but I guess veryone got shinny jet syndrome tripping over them selfs thinking they would be on one right away. For the company to be able to move forward they need to be able to employ drivers (amongst other things) without having to consult everyone which is costly and time consuming. There seems a lot of ppl here who want VA to fail, I'm not worried, I'll just keep turning up doing the job, as you say "she'll be right mate"
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Old 21st Jul 2017, 01:13
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Originally Posted by sydneyman View Post
Anyone know when interviewing will start for B737 Aussie east coast slots?
I was told its already started for Perth positions?
Applicants considered for Perth 737 are already underway.
SO, NZ737 and PER737 are all areas that require crew currently.

It will be a very long time, if ever that 737 east coast will be offered direct entry, but the way things are going at the moment...who knows??
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Old 24th Jul 2017, 07:21
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does anyone knows anything about the video interviews ?
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Old 25th Jul 2017, 03:59
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If the video interview is anything like Qantas it will be about 5 questions and you get 3 or so minutes to answer the question. It is pretty generic stuff.
Tell us about your career to date? What are your strengths? What are areas of improvement? Why did you choose virgin? I can't remember any others.
Good luck everyone.
If anyone has info on the Online Cognitive testing that would be great.
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 02:21
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Tell us about your career to date? Did you not read my Resume I sent in?

What are your strengths? I am an ace pilot.

What are areas of improvement? None of your business.

Why did you choose virgin? I want a good job.

Seriously these questions just piss me off.
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 03:13
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Has no-one considered that the stock vanilla questions aren't to find out about the candidates' career/desires but maybe it's about their abilities to communicate, verbally and non verbally?
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 03:28
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Has no-one considered that the stock vanilla questions aren't to find out about the candidates' career/desires but maybe it's about their abilities to communicate, verbally and non verbally?
I think the bigger reason is it gives HR power over a process which otherwise they would know nothing about. By using behavioural questions it allows them to interview anyone from any technical background, while HR can know nothing about the person's area of expertise. Psychometric testing and behavioural questions just allow HR to appear relevant when any capable pilot manager should be able to hire and fire on their own.
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 08:29
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Originally Posted by greenbaloon View Post
does anyone knows anything about the video interviews ?
Originally Posted by anonfly View Post
If anyone has info on the Online Cognitive testing that would be great.

This info is from the cadetship application, take it or leave it but its probably fairly similar. The video interview in particular seemed like it was used for all pilot applications.

The video was 3 questions, 30 seconds to answer the first two and 60 seconds for the last. You just upload a video that you can take as many times as you want, edit, do whatever.

The cognitive testing was basically IQ type questions but extremely time limited. Maths word problems, sequences, pattern recognition, 'find the word that doesn't fit'. I thought I may have failed but passed.

This is very recent but of course I don't know how applicable to ordinary pilot applications.
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 17:03
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I'm getting the feeling some of you didn't get an interview or maybe got the no thank you letter after the interview. Take a look at your posts and you will be able to work out why!
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 23:23
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Originally Posted by zanthrus View Post
Tell us about your career to date? Did you not read my Resume I sent in?

What are your strengths? I am an ace pilot.

What are areas of improvement? None of your business.

Why did you choose virgin? I want a good job.

Seriously these questions just piss me off.
That's gold! You have illustrated perfectly why airlines have assessment criteria.
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 02:07
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edit : actually who cares.

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