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Old 9th Aug 2017, 04:21
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Conducting assessment of pilots should have been done prior to these pilots integrating to Virgin from Virgin Regional NOT after. Why is this necessary now? This practice is inefficient, unecessary and could have some very negative implications for an applicant that missed out and more so for the company. Surely these guys have a long history of sim and line checks, not to mention hundreds of sectors flying a difficult aircraft in a very demanding environment.
These guys measure up very well here during interviews. Great for us here, but sad to see these young pilots subjected to this poor practice and attitude and as a result lured away from Australia. How many ATPL's are currently being issued annually downunder? Exactly my point I rest my case. Have a great day!

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Old 9th Aug 2017, 06:02
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I thought I looked pretty good on paper lol


I hope you didn't use "lol" on said paper.
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 06:42
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Minger to give you an indication.

With those hours I had almost 3000 hours multi. Over 2000 multi crew turbine and had been in the left seat of a regional multi crew turboprop.

Sounds like you need to get in the left seat to be competitive. I must also say as soon as I wrote captain on my resume, the big airline interview invitations came.
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 08:15
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Hours do not equate to experience.

I know a bloke who argues he should be given everything under the sun because he has+5000hrs. All flying rectangles and meat bombing.
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he has+5000hrs. All flying rectangles and meat bombing
There must be some sort of reward for that!
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 13:38
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Hah! I agree. Sounds worse than 14 months of "Rock and Olga's"
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 08:14
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Would anyone be kind enough to let me know what to expect for the online testing? Do they still use SHL? Verbal, Numerical and Logical reasoning? Thanks in advance, I owe you a beer.
Abstract, Numerical and Verbal reasoning. All seperate 20-25min tests. SHL practice tests are the best to use. They will give you a fair idea of the kind of questions to expect. I didn't manage to finish the numerical and abstract in the allotted time but got through the verbal with some time to spare. On par or slightly easier than than the practice SHL questions. They generally got progressively harder as you made your way through the test
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 11:29
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Originally Posted by boeinginthewest View Post
What's absurd is the sweet irony of urging people to not allow integration and then snagging an east-coast 737 gig at first opportunity THANKS to integration. That's what's absurd, or is it irony? I am not sure.
That's a cheap shot, particularly on an anonymous forum. Name one pilot who has spent more time and effort fighting for ATR crew than Chadzat.

The debate was not whether or not to "allow" integration but whether or not it should be brought up at EBA time to allow the company to use it as leverage. As it happened they were handed the leverage and used it to force a system that suited nobody but the company. The way the company has treated the ATR operation since and more importantly, the staff that they profess to love so much, is nothing short of a disgrace.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 12:01
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The airline is a basket case. Do yourself a favour and wait for Qantas or look elsewhere! Better options out there then Virgin!
 
Old 13th Aug 2017, 02:50
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Originally Posted by Comeflytothestars View Post
The airline is a basket case. Do yourself a favour and wait for Qantas or look elsewhere! Better options out there then Virgin!
Have been with Virgin for many years now and I would have to agree with the above statement. If you want a flying job which pays alright Virgin will provide that but nothing else. You're treated like S*#T by management. Told to constantly put reports in to make things better, nothing ever comes of it. No J class paxing, no respect from ground staff, crew meals are foul. I could go on and on but I won't. If you're prepared to put up with it, just fly and go home well it's an alright job. O and when you get home expect constant calls from crewing asking you to work your days off. Border line harassment.
If you are weighing up between Virgin and JQ I'd personally pick JQ. You'll be working the same but at least you get decent staff travel.
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 10:51
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Originally Posted by UPTOFLTLVLS View Post
Have been with Virgin for many years now and I would have to agree with the above statement. If you want a flying job which pays alright Virgin will provide that but nothing else. You're treated like S*#T by management. Told to constantly put reports in to make things better, nothing ever comes of it. No J class paxing, no respect from ground staff, crew meals are foul. I could go on and on but I won't. If you're prepared to put up with it, just fly and go home well it's an alright job. O and when you get home expect constant calls from crewing asking you to work your days off. Border line harassment.
If you are weighing up between Virgin and JQ I'd personally pick JQ. You'll be working the same but at least you get decent staff travel.
Totally agree!
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 22:38
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If you want a flying job which pays alright


Go to the NZ operation & you won't even get that!
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Old 21st Aug 2017, 01:35
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Has anyone heard anything back from recruitment recently? I completed stages 2/3 a few weeks back and have not had any communication since.
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Old 21st Aug 2017, 01:42
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Has anyone heard anything back from recruitment recently? I completed stages 2/3 a few weeks back and have not had any communication since.
I got told I had passed all stages of recruitment and a course date would be given to me in 3 days, then didn't hear a thing for 9 months.

I wouldn't worry about a few weeks
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 01:21
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You don't need experience, you need a heartbeat and a lobotomy.
I think that would make you overqualified!!!
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 15:26
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What about

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Progression up the list is very slooooooooow
The pilots recruited to Perth?
Is the progression a bit faster over there?
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 01:22
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Progression up the list is very slooooooooow
I wouldn't call slow 2-3 years as a 777 SO. Most SO's are barley completing their freeze period before upgrading to VAA737 FO. From there is options of VAI 737 FO, 330 FO etc. I will admit the chances of any new recruit seeing a wide body command is nil due to small fleet size.
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 03:26
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Most Junior guys will have opportunities (Left and Right seat) at Tiger if it grows.

Likewise, if you are from or like the idea of living in Perth there will be opportunities (F100 Right seat) at VARA not to mention Right seat VAA 737.

VAA Command BNE/MEL probably 15 years at best to LHS for a new joiner. Keep in mind a lot of current VAA Captains are 40ish. The latest round of PER 737 Commands went to guys that joined 7-8 years ago.

There is also potential growth in Wide body (read movement on Narrow Body) and some turn over company wide which was previously very low if not inexistent.

Wide Body Command is very very senior, if this is what you are chasing you will have to go overseas at some stage.

330 FO is similar seniority to PER Narrow body Command.

777 FO is very senior, mostly goes to 737 Captains trying escape domestic!LOL.

Hope this helps, all the best.

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Old 24th Aug 2017, 08:49
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With the many opportunities out there at the moment it is important to get in now with the right employer. If you're after a job then this might be for you. If you're after a career I would try elsewhere. Timely career progression and opportunity is vital, just as is a decent pay cheque and time to enjoy what is a relatively short time on this earth
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 00:23
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I tend to disagree with the above posts. Everyone is focusing on progression, this is based on false expectation. The progression offered at Jetstar and VB/VAA in the last 10-15 years is NOT the industry standard. Take QF for example, yes the pay is good after a number of years, however progression is slow. Look at all the major carriers in the USA, very slow progression. Air New Zealand is the same. Virgin does offer progression, however it is now similar to other carriers in respect to time.
Talk about Job security, Virgin has never made anyone redundant. (Pilots anyway) Remember a few years ago when it was all doom and gloom at QF, there were demotions and offers of LWOP to avoid redundancy.
A 737 first officer at VAA with a couple of years service will make in excess of 160k a year with out really trying. Which is not bad. Additionally being a jr pilot does not affect your lifestyle in terms of bidding for a rosters or ALV like a lot of other carriers.
Yes there is a lot of negativity at the moment, which frustrating and does affect your work and home life. However if you go to work, do your job and not get too caught up in the bullshit you will fine.
If you are young and relatively inexperienced, apply for everything and take what you can get. You don't want to be left in the dark when the music stops, which it inevitably will in the future.
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