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Old 18th Oct 2018, 03:17
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The candidates I’ve bumped into have said that’s their experience. +24 months, no sim required.
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 04:19
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Originally Posted by Al Barsha South View Post
Many guys on the hold file for over 12 months now.

Rumour is that they will cut the bottom 20%.

Qantas recruitment is a disgrace.
Surely not?
what would be the point of that?
They’ve been tested and ranked accordingly.

The current lowest 20% may be more suitable than the next few years worth of applicants.
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 04:55
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Originally Posted by Al Barsha South View Post
Many guys on the hold file for over 12 months now.

Rumour is that they will cut the bottom 20%.

Qantas recruitment is a disgrace.

Bovine Excrement
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 23:00
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Hi Everyone,
I am an Y11 student who is ambitious on becoming a pilot. I have heard about Qantas' planning to open a new pilot academy, and am wondering:
How tough would their selection process be? thanks, tony
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 23:09
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Tough? Depends on the individual going through the process. Some will find it difficult, others won’t. Some who find it difficult will get through to the job, some who found it easy will not get through- and vice versa.

If you’re in year 11 I recommend working hard at your maths and English subjects and exposing yourself to as many teamwork, decision making, leadership type situations as you can. Sports teams, debating teams, cadets, scouts, guides, customer service or other team type jobs, etc are all good things to stay involved with to develop the non technical skills required. Most people can be taught the ‘stick and rudder’ elements of the job. It’s the non technical skills that get you in the door for a cadetship.

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Old 19th Oct 2018, 00:56
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But along with all of that perhaps a course in critical thinking to help you parse out all the probabilities of a happy and rewarding 45 year aviation career. Particularly to help you predict what happens to 50 year old pilots rendered moot by automation. In a mercantile, neo feudalist kind of way.

I disagree slightly with Keg when he implies that handling skills can be taught: they can, of course, but not universally*

*nowhere in the HR process or management reckoning are pilot tricks even a thing...perhaps in the sim assessment, if we are still doing those in five years. On the line you will be given kudos for how soon after Vr you can engage the autopilot, for a host of valid reasons.
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 01:39
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus View Post

I disagree slightly with Keg when he implies that handling skills can be taught: they can, of course, but not universally*
Hence,

Most people can be taught the ‘stick and rudder’ elements of the job.
(My added emphasis).

I suspect we’re actually in furious agreement about that point. Certainly most people good enough to get into a cadetship given the high levels of psychometric testing and inherent smarts that come with that would be able to be taught the stick and rudder.

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Old 19th Oct 2018, 02:41
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post


Hence,



(My added emphasis).

I suspect we’re actually in furious agreement about that point. Certainly most people good enough to get into a cadetship given the high levels of psychometric testing and inherent smarts that come with that would be able to be taught the stick and rudder.

Oops, should have read it twice after a long night slaving over a hot Airbus.

Regarding your point about testing and smarts: hmmmm. Not sure. It would be illuminating to see a study of the correlation between those things. Forgive my cynicism-I'm not even sure an indifferent manual handling skill set is even a barrier to entry anymore. What’s worse is, having had enough Kool-Aid and seen the market's apparent acceptance of ineptitude I think that it probably actually doesn’t matter from a risk:benefit point of view.


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Old 19th Oct 2018, 02:45
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Thanks, Keg! I am currently involved in debating, mooting and I did have a bit of part-time job experience at a pizza store. I am currently doing VCE maths methods+specalist plus physics which should be useful for aviation course.
What I am concerned is I am not a native English student which has Chinese(or mandarin as some people prefer to say). Would this be a disadvantage while competing other candidates in the process?
Also, I do hear about the psychologic tests as well and apparently, it is very different to prepare beforehand. I don't have a perfect personality and any tips for it? Thanks again.
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 02:54
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Thanks for your tips guys.
Another factor I am concerned about the selection process is the health issue. I was diagnosed with suspicious glaucoma and the doctors can't determine whether I actually have it or not. Could this be a jeopardise factor on getting class 1 medical?
Thanks heaps, Tony
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 02:57
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Your written English is at least coherent. Maybe polish up your use of prepositions.

Writing as someone whose Mandarin pronunciation is a rich vein of comedy for native speakers, I recommend a coach if your pronunciation causes more than rare confusion with monolingual English speakers.
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 03:03
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Thanks for your tips guys.
Another factor I am concerned about the selection process is the health issue. I was diagnosed with suspicious glaucoma and the doctors can't determine whether I actually have it or not. Could this be a jeopardise factor on getting class 1 medical?
Thanks heaps, Tony
Ask CASA. Perhaps you can undergo a Class 1 medical to get a quick impression of how alarmed CASA gets. A quick read suggests both specialist evaluation and a long time line evaluation to asses intraoccular changes. 祝你好运
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 03:05
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How alarm CASA could be during medical exam?
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 03:15
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Well, when they look at your examination results they either will or won’t ask for further testing, then they either will or won’t issue a Class 1 medical. Its cold, but at least you will then know where you stand medically.

When I wrote “alarmed” I was using colourful language that does not reflect the process: They will see if you fit within their guidelines or not, and then they will advise you accordingly
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 03:20
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Thanks. Any minimum age requirement for undertaking Class 1 medical? I am currently 17 years old.
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 03:49
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At 17 you should be ok...at least I don’t see any limit on their website.

What I do see though is probably $600 In costs Maybe you could just ask them the question somehow before incurring all that expense.
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 11:58
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus View Post

It would be illuminating to see a study of the correlation between those things.
Looking to do your PhD?

Is it Captain Dr Australopithecus or Dr Captain?
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Old 19th Oct 2018, 20:17
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Looking to do your PhD?

Is it Captain Dr Australopithecus or Dr Captain?
Field Marshall Doctor Captain DaDa, if you please. Good enough for Idi Amin, good enough for me.
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Old 20th Oct 2018, 01:42
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Many of us have been waiting a month plus for the executive board review. Can anyone shed any light on if they get through all candidates in every sitting or there tends to be an overflow, thus delaying the process much further for the people who weren't reviewed? Cheers
 
Old 22nd Oct 2018, 03:24
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I haven’t heard of any externals who interviewed from August this year and have a result yet. Those that completed the medical etc that is.
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