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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 11:02
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Originally Posted by Keg


Yep. Courses increasing to 12-16... perhaps as soon as October course in four weeks.
Maybe just maybe the penny has dropped about the massive hole these morons are in. They have to start training on the 787 about February for the Sydney based 787s starting in October, if they can’t entice the 747 crews to change to the 787 they need to get massive more numbers on the 330 and 737 to release for the 787. Then they still have the RIN problem off the 747 they have just started to break the agreement by assigning 747 crews leave without following the correct protocol.
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 22:32
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I suspect they’ve known for a while. Just haven’t been able to do much about it.

787s 9, 10, 11 due September, October, November next year. The latter two, maybe two and a half I suspect will be in next training year. Of course you’re right that you need to front load the 737 and A330 fleets to permit people to leave those aircraft for the 787 in July next year.

Another NTFS with 10 787 commands and a handful of A330 and 737 commands before the end of the year?
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 23:52
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I agree they know about it, however I disagree there is not much they can do about it. To fix the problem requires money and engagement , money they have but won’t spend, engagement amongst 747 crews is minimal, you reap what you sow. I am reliably told that the number of pilots on the 737 with a letter of preference to move is in the ninety percent mark, until they address the shortfalls of their contract the revolving door of training on that aircraft will continue for years. In my opinion the novelty of the 787 will soon wear off for those that have moved onto it. Once they have enough aircraft for daily services they will be flying 90 stick every 28 days, where it is doing only 3 a week like MLB/SFO and probably BNE/Chicago the novelty of spending 72/96 hours will also wear thin. Again IMO the light at the end of the tunnel is the train.
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Old 23rd Sep 2018, 09:11
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Once they have enough aircraft for daily services they will be flying 90 stick every 28 days
So flying about 300 hours a year over the legal maximum or do they each get 12 weeks leave a year?
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Old 23rd Sep 2018, 09:25
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As I’m sure you know only six weeks and rosters will be adjusted at bidding for limits. Again and it’s only my opinion that where this is headed is under fatigue manipulation (woops management ) to 1000 hours a year.
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 05:40
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Does anyone know how long it generally takes to hear back from recruitment after reference checks and medical documents have been submitted? Thanks!
 
Old 26th Sep 2018, 22:41
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Took 3 months to even hear back from them since finishing the sim ride and medical. Mind you, I was an internal candidate and they like to dangle the carrot for quite some time. I got a start date a few days after finding out I got the job and I’m quite glad as it actually gives me time to sell the house and relocate the family. Pretty stoked.

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Old 27th Sep 2018, 02:53
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Originally Posted by Hold_Short
Took 3 months to even hear back from them since finishing the sim ride and medical. Mind you, I was an internal candidate and they like to dangle the carrot for quite some time. I got a start date a few days after finding out I got the job and I’m quite glad as it actually gives me time to sell the house and relocate the family. Pretty stoked.
The extra time for internals is more about looking at the whole candidate picture and the coordination required with subsidiaries to get you. Congratulations on getting the carrot nonetheless

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Old 27th Sep 2018, 05:18
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Originally Posted by *Lancer*


The extra time for internals is more about looking at the whole candidate picture and the coordination required with subsidiaries to get you.
That right - it’s all part of a brilliantly coordinated, well organized process that involves the limits of modern computing power. Large teams gather to grind on a holistic, unified, shared mental model.

It’s incredibly powerful. It would bring a tear to the eye of most average humans.



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Old 27th Sep 2018, 22:13
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Pilot shortage to drive pilot salaries higher? Not at QF according to AJ. This won't come as a surprise to most but here is some direct insight.

The Business - ABC News

This is an interview with Elysse Morgan from ABC program 'The Business'. Jump to 5'40" if you're short on time.

AJ: "...we've got a list as long as your arm."
Elysse: "So no pay rises for Qantas pilots then?"
AJ: "Qantas pilots are really well paid! You know an A380 Captain gets paid around $400,000 a year! A starting pilot at QantasLink gets paid $80,000 a year. I think they're good salaries and a lot of people out there, a lot of your viewers, would love to have one of those jobs."

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Old 28th Sep 2018, 01:42
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Originally Posted by Popgun
Pilot shortage to drive pilot salaries higher? Not at QF according to AJ. This won't come as a surprise to most but here is some direct insight.

The Business - ABC News

This is an interview with Elysse Morgan from ABC program 'The Business'. Jump to 5'40" if you're short on time.

AJ: "...we've got a list as long as your arm."
Elysse: "So no pay rises for Qantas pilots then?"
AJ: "Qantas pilots are really well paid! You know an A380 Captain gets paid around $400,000 a year! A starting pilot at QantasLink gets paid $80,000 a year. I think they're good salaries and a lot of people out there, a lot of your viewers, would love to have one of those jobs."

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AJ must have forgotten the number of years pilots have spent in GA making less then someone flipping burgers along with the loans we took to become pilots.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 04:36
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Originally Posted by Flydawg
AJ must have forgotten the number of years pilots have spent in GA making less then someone flipping burgers along with the loans we took to become pilots.
He wouldn’t care less.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 06:47
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 03:04
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Not like AJ to lie by omission though.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 09:01
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As Icarus2001 shows graphically , AJ has a lot of kissing of the Blarney Stone to do in order to convince the general public that his pilots are over paid when his remuneration , per DAY, is equivalent to the Average Aussies wage per YEAR !
Bit hard then to paint the pilots in a bad light when those sort of figures are realised !
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 11:47
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I wonder if the public knows Mr Joyce makes more in a month then an A380 capt makes in a year, trying to make it sound like pilots are overpaid, and isn't the base pay for a new Qlink FO in the High 60's????
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 21:45
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Doubt the public would care about his salary. The public just hate the thought that we pilots sit there doing “nothing” while the machine does all the work AND getting paid hundreds of thousands to do it.....pilot salary bashing is a sport.

Dont forget AJ has all that responsibility
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 23:24
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I see that QF A380 Captains have had a pay cut - when Joyce shut the airline down, he stated that A380 Captains were being paid more that $500K, now they’ve dropped to “over $400K”.

Everything that comes out of his mouth is absolute BS but he sees it merely as blarney.
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 22:37
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My understanding is that they do.
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Old 17th Oct 2018, 00:30
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Originally Posted by Telfer86
Do the NZ based QF group pilots at Jetstar NZ and Jetconnect also have these rights ?
Yes. JC crew are already checked to line in the mainline system anyway, so I understand there's no sim assessment.
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