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Old 16th Aug 2022, 19:54
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Do you have any idea how they select the allocations?

I’ve heard from several folks that one’s preference is sought at the final interview, with no promises made. The typical courteous/diplomatic response goes along these lines;
”Thanks for asking. I’m keen to join Qantas asap but, if there were to be a choice, I’d say that my family’s location near (eg Sydney) would make that Base more desirable because we wouldn’t need to relocate. However, I would accept any Base I’m offered”.

Occasionally people have deferred their start by up to to few months in order to get their preferred base/type. That choice can have unintended consequences in terms of future extremes in one’s career; promotion choices and demotions/redundancies can/will be determined by time on the seniority list. Additionally, word on the street is that among the immediately pre-Covid joiners, many took several years LWOP (under duress) but have done ok by returning to previous work/locations/better pay & are in no particular hurry to return to QF as junior pilots (S/Os)…. Why would they? Once you’ve got a ‘seniority number’ it lasts forever until retirement.

So many choices!😜
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 22:12
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Take the first start date available, even if it means commuting for a short period of time.

Commuting in long haul isn’t too hard, just add an extra day per roster to fly into base before the trip (can fly back immediately after a trip), usually makes it an extra 2 days per roster away from home. It won’t be long until you get the desired LH base or a SH slot.

As long as you are living in one of the 5 major cities of course. If you’re living in a more regional location then that adds another layer of complexity into the equation, but some do maintain that lifestyle over their careers by choice.

But the benefit of getting on the seniority list ASAP is more important.

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Old 16th Aug 2022, 22:36
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Pure curiosity as I'm not involved with QF...
But, say you accept a SYD 330 SO slot, could you then "bid" to change to PER 787 SO? Or are you now committed to the 330 and it's associates bases?
If you can't bid to a different LH fleet, is it a matter of waiting till you have the seniority to bid for 787 FO?
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 00:57
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Originally Posted by 717tech
Pure curiosity as I'm not involved with QF...
But, say you accept a SYD 330 SO slot, could you then "bid" to change to PER 787 SO? Or are you now committed to the 330 and it's associates bases?
If you can't bid to a different LH fleet, is it a matter of waiting till you have the seniority to bid for 787 FO?
I don't work there either but I personally know a new hire who has just done exactly that (but in the reverse to what you mention).
The individual I know had not actually started training for the type however so Ill leave it to someone with more know that I to mention any conditions or limitations with doing so.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 01:31
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Originally Posted by Jetsbest
I’ve heard from several folks that one’s preference is sought at the final interview, with no promises made. The typical courteous/diplomatic response goes along these lines;
”Thanks for asking. I’m keen to join Qantas asap but, if there were to be a choice, I’d say that my family’s location near (eg Sydney) would make that Base more desirable because we wouldn’t need to relocate. However, I would accept any Base I’m offered”.
This is almost word-for-word the response I provided. So hopefully it is considered. Cheers!
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 07:41
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Originally Posted by 717tech
Pure curiosity as I'm not involved with QF...
But, say you accept a SYD 330 SO slot, could you then "bid" to change to PER 787 SO? Or are you now committed to the 330 and it's associates bases?
If you can't bid to a different LH fleet, is it a matter of waiting till you have the seniority to bid for 787 FO?
This is the order of what position is considered a promotion, which you have the ability to bid for (provided you aren’t frozen etc). Any sideways movement or demotion is at the company’s discretion. In the current environment, I can’t see any extra training being done, except the over 65’s coming back to the 737.

So in your example of trying to be in Perth, if you were given 330 Syd, I can see 737 FO PER being the only viable/likely bid.


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Old 17th Aug 2022, 08:04
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Originally Posted by Sparrows.
This is the order of what position is considered a promotion, which you have the ability to bid for (provided you aren’t frozen etc). Any sideways movement or demotion is at the company’s discretion. In the current environment, I can’t see any extra training being done, except the over 65’s coming back to the 737.

So in your example of trying to be in Perth, if you were given 330 Syd, I can see 737 FO PER being the only viable/likely bid.

What is a350sff so vs a350 so?

Also if you join now on current S/O salary and then bid for a350 in a few years, do you keep the better salary or revert to the a350 sunrise one?

Thanks.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 10:43
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Originally Posted by On Guard
What is a350sff so vs a350 so?
Great question….. No idea.
Probably just future proofing themselves incase the 330 ever disappears and 350’s remain.

Originally Posted by On Guard
Also if you join now on current S/O salary and then bid for a350 in a few years, do you keep the better salary or revert to the a350 sunrise one?
Like anyone joining, I’d suggest reading the EBA cover to cover. Rather than relying upon anonymous people hoping they give correct info.

If anyone joins prior to training commencing for 350 SO’s they are on the old 12 year (4 year for 787) pay scales for their entire career. No matter if they change fleet or seat.
However if you join after anyone has been recruited onto the 350, you will be on the new 4 year pay scales for all SO flying you do, regardless of fleet. Only transitioning to the old 12 year (4 year for 787)pay scales for Skipper and FO slots.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 10:47
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A350 SO, self explanatory. A330/350 SFF SO means dual endorsed to operate both 330 and 350 flights.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 11:27
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Originally Posted by On Guard
What is a350sff so vs a350 so?
SFF = Single Fleet Flying

I can't speak for Qantas, but at some overseas airlines the A350 & A330 are considered a single 'type', with a common type rating. Differences training is required before a pilot is allowed to operate both aircraft.
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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 23:07
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Does anyone know the timeframe between doing a sim and finding out if you have been successful in getting onto the hold file?
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 10:34
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Originally Posted by Contigo
Does anyone know the timeframe between doing a sim and finding out if you have been successful in getting onto the hold file?
was about 4-5 weeks a few years back
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 17:20
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Jetstar Engineering Apprenticeship

I have applied for jetstar apprenticeship and have went through to the physcometric test stage however my test wasnt very good prbly around 50%, the deadline closed 4days ago and they have a bonding day on the 29th of august. So do i assume my application has been unsuccessful? As they have not sent any emails since thanks
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 23:51
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Originally Posted by Dudeofication
I have applied for jetstar apprenticeship and have went through to the physcometric test stage however my test wasnt very good prbly around 50%, the deadline closed 4days ago and they have a bonding day on the 29th of august. So do i assume my application has been unsuccessful? As they have not sent any emails since thanks
I swear the trolls on here used to have some talent. I miss those days.
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Old 25th Aug 2022, 04:14
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Qf base

Apparently Tamworth to be new heavy maintenance base for 380 after rubber jungle QF12 debacle…
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Old 25th Aug 2022, 06:43
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People have told me some got on the HF in a week (or even less) but maybe they had courses to fill quickly
Think 3 or so is the normal ?
Have all QF group internal applicants passed their test deadline yet ? (Network , have some mates there & have been leaving them alone to study)

In future how do people imagine Qantas recruitment will work ?

Open every couple of years (Like pre-Covid) , which would make next recruitment 2024 (last was 2018 before this year), or will they do more of a continuous process
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Old 25th Aug 2022, 10:56
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Originally Posted by das Uber Soldat
I swear the trolls on here used to have some talent. I miss those days.
Yeah, well as it seems this is your only form of entertainment I guess its important, sad really. Typical of the unfulfilled.
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Old 25th Aug 2022, 13:33
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Originally Posted by Telfer86

Open every couple of years (Like pre-Covid) , which would make next recruitment 2024 (last was 2018 before this year), or will they do more of a continuous process
I’m told they have enough applications to process for the next two years at least. Unless something remarkable happens they won’t reopen for new applications before then.
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Old 26th Aug 2022, 02:31
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It takes ages to get any information or emails back. Could be months, I wouldn't stress. Just be aware the cadetship you are stuck there forever. No PIC, Jetstar contact isn't the best and they work really hard.
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Old 26th Aug 2022, 06:05
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Originally Posted by airbus4lyfe
It takes ages to get any information or emails back. Could be months, I wouldn't stress. Just be aware the cadetship you are stuck there forever. No PIC, Jetstar contact isn't the best and they work really hard.
Are you talking about the JQ cadetship? That’s seperate to mainline recruitment.

If you did the JQ program you wouldn’t be stuck there forever, 1500hrs as an Airbus FO and you can apply to mainline, or meet the minimums for QR or EK among others. Some JQ (and QLink) cadets have already done this so hardly “stuck there”. Outside of some Australian airlines no one cares about PIC time for non DE positions, especially if that PIC is on a lightie.

We can argue about the specific of the JQ contract but I think most would agree if that’s your first aviation job you’re not doing too badly.

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