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Old 14th May 2024, 20:58
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Originally Posted by dr dre
Probably pretty good. A career in a legacy carrier is best experienced by joining as early as you can. 40% of the pilot group will hit retirement in the next 15 years, so if you join at 25 and take the first command available you may spend almost 2/3rds of your career in the LHS.
Yup, given narrow body command will probably be about 10 years seniority this training year, theyíll probably feel pretty good about things. It took the rest of us 20 years to get that opportunity, so weíre all pretty embittered. That breakdown in the relationship is unlikely to ever be repaired, for me at least.

Thanks Geoff, Alan et al. You have left a proud legacy.
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Old 15th May 2024, 22:10
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Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere
Yup, given narrow body command will probably be about 10 years seniority this training year, theyíll probably feel pretty good about things. It took the rest of us 20 years to get that opportunity, so weíre all pretty embittered. That breakdown in the relationship is unlikely to ever be repaired, for me at least.

Thanks Geoff, Alan et al. You have left a proud legacy.
Why get wound up over something that is just typical swings and roundabouts of the industry everywhere? Save your blood pressure, youíll probably live an extra 10-20 years.
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Old 16th May 2024, 08:15
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Originally Posted by havick
Why get wound up over something that is just typical swings and roundabouts of the industry everywhere? Save your blood pressure, youíll probably live an extra 10-20 years.
Iím not wound up about it. I used to be but I just couldnít give a f$&k anymore. Thatís a pretty sad state of affairs given the passion I had for the place when I joined. Itís directly attributable to 20 years of management bastardry. I donít think Iím alone either. 🤷‍♂️

Anyway, sorry for the thread drift, but itís perhaps still relevant for new joiners to understand recent history.

Iíll leave things alone here unless I have something useful to contribute.

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Old 16th May 2024, 10:47
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Lesson here is donít join the QF group.
Itís too late for me (kids, schools etc), but my honest advice is to leave Australian aviation behind. Donít sign on to B scale and have third world conditions. years of sitting as an SO and FO (if youíre lucky).
go to emirates, Singapore, US, QATAR, Japan, etihad, China, ATLASÖeven an Indian contract.
Iíd include CX , but they lost the plot during Covid.
youíll get medical, schooling, housing, real staff travel, yearly bonus (check recent emirates and Singapore announcements).
Aussie industry is ruined. Smart people will get hours and leave asap.


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Old 16th May 2024, 10:54
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Originally Posted by Gas Chamber
Lesson here is donít join the QF group.
Itís too late for me (kids, schools etc), but my honest advice is to leave Australian aviation behind. Donít sign on to B scale and have third world conditions. years of sitting as an SO and FO (if youíre lucky).
go to emirates, Singapore, US, QATAR, Japan, etihad, China, ATLASÖeven an Indian contract.
Iíd include CX , but they lost the plot during Covid.
youíll get medical, schooling, housing, real staff travel, yearly bonus (check recent emirates and Singapore announcements).
Aussie industry is ruined. Smart people will get hours and leave asap.
And this is why Network is now so beneficial, so pilots can build jet time and leave. I now fully support Qantas and the way they run Network. Well done guys!
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Old 17th May 2024, 06:30
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Originally Posted by Gas Chamber
Lesson here is donít join the QF group.
Itís too late for me (kids, schools etc), but my honest advice is to leave Australian aviation behind. Donít sign on to B scale and have third world conditions. years of sitting as an SO and FO (if youíre lucky).
go to emirates, Singapore, US, QATAR, Japan, etihad, China, ATLASÖeven an Indian contract.
Iíd include CX , but they lost the plot during Covid.
youíll get medical, schooling, housing, real staff travel, yearly bonus (check recent emirates and Singapore announcements).
Aussie industry is ruined. Smart people will get hours and leave asap.
Fair point but you have clearly not worked in Asia, ME or India.

Qantas is a holiday camp even its current state compared to operations in that part of the world, SQ even with the bonus youd be on the bones of your a$$ and Qatar you'll never be home and in fear of your job everyday. Maybe just leave EK, EY and ATLAS in the mix haha
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Old 17th May 2024, 06:53
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Originally Posted by BO0M
Fair point but you have clearly not worked in Asia, ME or India.

Qantas is a holiday camp even its current state compared to operations in that part of the world, SQ even with the bonus youd be on the bones of your a$$ and Qatar you'll never be home and in fear of your job everyday. Maybe just leave EK, EY and ATLAS in the mix haha
Theres quite a bit of overseas movement back to mainline, HK especially. Apparently a lot of applications in from American freight airlines. About 10 years ago dozens of mainline crew took up LWOP to go to the M/E. Pretty much all came back, some giving up widebody commands in doing so.

Iíve never heard more than a handful per year resigning from mainline to pursue a career in a different carrier. The subsidiaries, yes, they have a lot of outflow, but it hasnít hit mainline yet.
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Old 18th May 2024, 00:10
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How many internals are getting yes this time round?
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Old 18th May 2024, 00:37
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How many internals historically get a yes? is past sim scores within the group the main factor?
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Old 18th May 2024, 13:21
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The vibe is 80% yes for internal, 20% yes for externals. Think that holds pretty true.
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Old 19th May 2024, 00:18
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Originally Posted by Mithzaron
The vibe is 80% yes for internal, 20% yes for externals. Think that holds pretty true.
I presume thatís out of those who attend the assessment centre? Sounds lower than I would have expected for externals, but what do I know 🤷‍♂️
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Old 19th May 2024, 01:42
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80% internal?? Really??
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Old 19th May 2024, 07:40
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Heard that internals were being given start dates out to 2027.
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Old 20th May 2024, 23:23
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start dates in 2027? can i ask what subsidiary that was from?
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Old 20th May 2024, 23:57
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As far as I am aware, they give you roughly three months notice of your start date, base and fleet to allow you enough time to resign from your subsidiary. I think those saying 2027 are ball parking it based on previous groups that have gone through the process.
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Old 21st May 2024, 02:52
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For the externals that have interviewed so far this year, has there been any suggestion as to start dates and time on the hold file?
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Old 21st May 2024, 03:05
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Originally Posted by thisishomebrand
As far as I am aware, they give you roughly three months notice of your start date, base and fleet to allow you enough time to resign from your subsidiary. I think those saying 2027 are ball parking it based on previous groups that have gone through the process.
They provide internals on the hold file a ďtentative start year and quarter.Ē
All subject to change obviously.
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Old 21st May 2024, 03:19
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Originally Posted by thisishomebrand
As far as I am aware, they give you roughly three months notice of your start date, base and fleet to allow you enough time to resign from your subsidiary. I think those saying 2027 are ball parking it based on previous groups that have gone through the process.
2027 is based on the direct from HR advice that successful applicants from this round will not start until all starters from the previous intake have. Some from that previous one have officially been given Q3 and Q4 of 2026.
Iíve heard itís been the go this round to give Yes/No relatively soon after interview, but dates will come out all at once. (Have heard other ideas too so uncertain)

QF and the subsidiary will blame each other about the amount and order of releases, at least thatís the case at the turbos. Itís probably a mix of both sides needs.
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Old 27th May 2024, 06:05
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Originally Posted by Martinflyer
For the externals that have interviewed so far this year, has there been any suggestion as to start dates and time on the hold file?
6-12 months seems to be the suggestion
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Old 31st May 2024, 03:16
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Anyone sat the external assessment centre recently and mind sharing their experience? Thanks!
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