Qantas Recruitment

[B7779]

Any updates on how far ground school dates have been assigned till?

[roundhouse]

Have any calls gone out in the past few days?

[IFerr]

Have any internals heard back? It was suggested 4 weeks until getting a response, 7 weeks post interview and nothing..

[Ck.]

Appreciate the feedback and opinion given by everyone so far.

Originally Posted by Gas Chamber

QF are very sneaky with the treatment of internal applications. It’s not right.

If it was a guaranteed start I would easily stay. At the moment I’m pretty torn on deciding whether to move across to double my salary and not worry about the financial side of starting a family, or hope that nothing happens for the next 2-3 years that could slow down the hiring or even stop the process.

[Gas Chamber]

All the comments make you realise the risk/reward for crew no longer stacks up. Airlines abuse the seniority system, as they know we won’t leave.
It really is time for PIA across the board.
Even QF hiring practices need to be addressed…this posters situation is a perfect example of a broken system.
One seniority list for red tails. End of story. Stop using subsidiaries to undermine and control us.

[JamieMaree]

Originally Posted by Gas Chamber

All the comments make you realise the risk/reward for crew no longer stacks up. Airlines abuse the seniority system, as they know we won’t leave.
It really is time for PIA across the board.
Even QF hiring practices need to be addressed…this posters situation is a perfect example of a broken system.
One seniority list for red tails. End of story. Stop using subsidiaries to undermine and control us.

You’ve got to stop listening to those fairies at the bottom of the garden.

[The Flying Fencer]

Originally Posted by mig3

I'm glad that approach worked out for you in 1999. In the current hiring environment this is just bad advice.

For internal candidates, remember there is a two year moratorium before being eligible for re-hire within the group.

I did this for a similar situation I had. Worked for me. Just be polite about how you word it. 🤷‍♂️

[JamieMaree]

Originally Posted by Gas Chamber

you truly are a tool. What’s your background legend?
bean counter?
Definitely didn’t make it as a pilot…that is crystal clear. So bitter.

I was a toolmaker. I worked with a few tools.
I socialised with a few tools.
I considered being a flying spanner.
I never listened to the pixies though.

[WannaBeBiggles]

Originally Posted by B7779

Any updates on how far ground school dates have been assigned till?

Originally Posted by roundhouse

Have any calls gone out in the past few days?

Originally Posted by IFerr

Have any internals heard back? It was suggested 4 weeks until getting a response, 7 weeks post interview and nothing..

Trying to bring the conversation back on track, I'm sure there are plenty of people that might be more interested in responses to the above.

[helispotter]

I was half listening to an interview with Adam Jacob, co-founder of Hatch, on ABC News channel about an hour ago. The discussion concerned a survey Hatch had conducted of Gen Z employees. One finding was that the people surveyed generally preferred higher pay over job 'perks'. He was asked which companies were thought of more highly. He mentioned there was a top 20(?) list of such companies, both major and minor. The only one I thought I heard him mention was Qantas. Did I hear right??

I tried to look up an equivalent item on the internet and the nearest I could find was the start of a recent "The Age" subscriber only article that must relate to the same survey:

https://amp.theage.com.au/technology...10-p5jclp.html

[Pearly White]

Originally Posted by helispotter

I was half listening to an interview with Adam Jacob, co-founder of Hatch, on ABC News channel about an hour ago. The discussion concerned a survey Hatch had conducted of Gen Z employees. One finding was that the people surveyed generally preferred higher pay over job 'perks'. He was asked which companies were thought of more highly. He mentioned there was a top 20(?) list of such companies, both major and minor. The only one I thought I heard him mention was Qantas. Did I hear right??

I tried to look up an equivalent item on the internet and the nearest I could find was the start of a recent "The Age" subscriber only article that must relate to the same survey:

https://amp.theage.com.au/technology...10-p5jclp.html

FWIW, the Hatch Top 20 list is here: https://www.hatch.team/companies

[Chronic Snoozer]

Hatch is an AI-driven job placement agency of which QANTAS is a client. No surprise then it appears in the Top 20 list alongside other Hatch client firms. No surprise either that engineers and pilots are not advertised roles for QANTAS, appearing on Hatch’s website.

[helispotter]

Originally Posted by Pearly White

FWIW, the Hatch Top 20 list is here: https://www.hatch.team/companies

Thanks for digging Pearly White. So indeed Qantas was included in the top 20 this year: https://www.hatch.team/hotlist-2024

The blurb for them has: "Gen Z love... That Qantas Group give opportunities for people to grow and develop in supportive environments across aviation, marketing, technology and more."

OK, so I have never worked for Qantas so can't make my own assessment, but it isn't the vibe I pick up from what I read in the media. I wonder if this is a case of "cash for comments" or that Gen Z staff who were surveyed generally DO have such an experience at Qantas? I guess no Gen Z former Qantas ground staff were included in the survey in any case...

[Ollie Onion]

Originally Posted by helispotter

Thanks for digging Pearly White. So indeed Qantas was included in the top 20 this year: https://www.hatch.team/hotlist-2024

The blurb for them has: "Gen Z love... That Qantas Group give opportunities for people to grow and develop in supportive environments across aviation, marketing, technology and more."

OK, so I have never worked for Qantas so can't make my own assessment, but it isn't the vibe I pick up from what I read in the media. I wonder if this is a case of "cash for comments" or that Gen Z staff who were surveyed generally DO have such an experience at Qantas? I guess no Gen Z former Qantas ground staff were included in the survey in any case...

Qantas bends over backwards to accommodate GEN Z etc, everyday we are bombarded with emailed regarding LGBTQ+ days, First Nation Days, Mental Wellbeing Days and many more. Qantas has a truely WOKE corporate culture who love to publicise just how open and welcoming they are to all comers all while turning the screws in terms and conditions of frontline workers.

[Ladloy]

Originally Posted by Ollie Onion

Qantas bends over backwards to accommodate GEN Z etc, everyday we are bombarded with emailed regarding LGBTQ+ days, First Nation Days, Mental Wellbeing Days and many more. Qantas has a truely WOKE corporate culture who love to publicise just how open and welcoming they are to all comers all while turning the screws in terms and conditions of frontline workers.

Newscorp is also on that list and they're the group that defines 'woke' culture to the masses so I find it hard to believe that it's the case.

[Gas Chamber]

They’re more than happy to give office new hires first class high priority travel day one.
all while telling their pilot group to get ******.
nice given we spend half our lives away from family.
more important to look after your HR intern

[megan]

turning the screws in terms and conditions of frontline workers

Don't forget they do that to the customers as well, ghost flight customers getting satisfaction trying to get their hands on a refund, you need to cough $99 up to Vanessa for the privilege.

[helispotter]

Originally Posted by Ollie Onion

Qantas bends over backwards to accommodate GEN Z etc... Qantas has a truely WOKE corporate culture who love to publicise just how open and welcoming they are to all comers...

I had to look up the definition: "Gen Z refers to people born between 1995 and 2010". So how many pilots or aurcraft engineers at Qantas Group who are now 29 years old or younger? I would assume a few. How do they feel about the company?
As for the "WOKE" term, I just take that as conservative right wing media types trying to have a dig at fair minded people or companies. A true WOKE company would treat all staff fairly regardless of age, gender, orientation etc. I would be happy to work for such a company.

[dr dre]

Originally Posted by helispotter

I had to look up the definition: "Gen Z refers to people born between 1995 and 2010". So how many pilots or aurcraft engineers at Qantas Group who are now 29 years old or younger? I would assume a few. How do they feel about the company?

Probably pretty good. A career in a legacy carrier is best experienced by joining as early as you can. 40% of the pilot group will hit retirement in the next 15 years, so if you join at 25 and take the first command available you may spend almost 2/3rds of your career in the LHS.

[Avi8terdude2023]

July Course ?

Still on the hold file from last year And was told a few months back that everyone on it would be allocated a spot by July. Haven’t heard anything tho. Is there anyone on here that has been put into the July course?