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Old 14th Oct 2023, 21:58
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Originally Posted by Beer Baron
They have actually managed to achieve that metric already. There are the now the exact same amount of female and male baggage handlers employed by Qantas.
You’d think people would be happy about it but apparently there has been a court case (or 3) over it. Qantas just can get a break.

haha brilliant. You’re right! Exactly the same
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Old 14th Oct 2023, 23:17
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Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete
Still waiting for Qantas group to offer scholarships that target “equal gender employment” in all their roles - like bag chuckers. You know, those occupations that Qantas can’t make PR mileage out of equal opportunity.
It's not just Qantas. As we drove to the airport in Brissy recently my wife commented on the lack of male pilots displayed on any of the airline's advertising billboards.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 03:47
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A re-fueler has mentioned just less than 200 or so mainline pilots applied to be pilot recruiters for this next intake , looks like crew want to have a say in who they work with and not quotas.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 05:30
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Originally Posted by ShandywithSugar
A re-fueler has mentioned just less than 200 or so mainline pilots applied to be pilot recruiters for this next intake , looks like crew want to have a say in who they work with and not quotas.
There aren’t quotas. Over the last several years, both pre and post Covid, the % of female recruits roughly matches the % of female applicants.

For all those who talk about “quotas” I ask if they are seeing levels of competence decreasing due to these supposed “quotas”. Then they usually are forced to admit the current generation of recruits are generally competent, hard working and good people to go flying with, as most are.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 08:37
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The back in my day successful guys who have retired at 65 with unblemished careers and runs on the board are numerous. Most of us would never have achieved our 25000K plus hours on many different fleets, had we not had the talent and know how to adjust and move with all of the best world practice traits. I guarantee we know our stuff, our record proves it, and if we express a view here, it is not on a social whim, but based on cold hard experience.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 08:41
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The back in my day successful guys who have retired at 65 with unblemished careers and runs on the board are numerous. Most of us would never have achieved our 25000K plus hours on many different fleets, had we not had the talent and know how to adjust and move with all of the best world practice traits. I guarantee we know our stuff, our record proves it, and if we express a view here, it is not on a social whim, but based on cold hard experience.
Modest too.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 10:44
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Originally Posted by Oldbrigade
The back in my day successful guys who have retired at 65 with unblemished careers and runs on the board are numerous. Most of us would never have achieved our 25000K plus hours on many different fleets, had we not had the talent and know how to adjust and move with all of the best world practice traits. I guarantee we know our stuff, our record proves it, and if we express a view here, it is not on a social whim, but based on cold hard experience.
I have no doubt. But things change and just because you did it that way, doesn’t mean there’s not better ways of doing it.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 23:17
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Originally Posted by dr dre
Over the last several years, both pre and post Covid, the % of female recruits roughly matches the % of female applicants.
sounds like 99% success rate then? Not digging you Dr I value your work here but that looks like a quota being filled.

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Old 16th Oct 2023, 00:03
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Originally Posted by ShandywithSugar
sounds like 99% success rate then? Not digging you Dr I value your work here but that looks like a quota being filled.
No - to make it clear what I mean is women are being hired at roughly the same rate as they apply.

So if 1000 people apply and 100 of them are hired, if 10% are female (100 female applicants) then roughly 10 of the 100 hires are female.

So no favouritism shown (ie no quota).
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Old 16th Oct 2023, 08:43
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Originally Posted by dr dre
No - to make it clear what I mean is women are being hired at roughly the same rate as they apply.

So if 1000 people apply and 100 of them are hired, if 10% are female (100 female applicants) then roughly 10 of the 100 hires are female.

So no favouritism shown (ie no quota).
That’s not necessarily true. Statistics and lies..
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Old 16th Oct 2023, 09:12
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yep, indeed, because we know how good results are generated. Not by social media, not by hubris, but by seriously understanding aviation. QF is only one of many legacy Airlines. It is not the benchmark of all things to all aviators. It is a great Airline, and it’s safety record is unsurpassed, but going forward, HR should have more confidence in flight operations to totally control the agenda, hence my original comments on this forum, and yes, I have worked for QF, and
I am not angry.

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Old 16th Oct 2023, 09:52
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If there's a quota they're doing a terrible job fulfilling it.
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Old 16th Oct 2023, 11:08
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
If there's a quota they're doing a terrible job fulfilling it.
Exactly. Roughly 1-3 women on each course of about 12-20.

I think a lot of the fear spread about supposed ‘quotas’ is from some pilots who weren’t successful with their application but can’t accept it, so they take comfort in believing they fell victim to the mythical ‘quota’.
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 01:57
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anyone know of the average time on a hold fire for internals (JQ). im aware it could be a while, just curious
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 02:19
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Originally Posted by dr dre
Exactly. Roughly 1-3 women on each course of about 12-20.

I think a lot of the fear spread about supposed ‘quotas’ is from some pilots who weren’t successful with their application but can’t accept it, so they take comfort in believing they fell victim to the mythical ‘quota’.
Have you ever heard of a women having an interview at Mainline and getting rejected?

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Have you ever heard of a women having an interview at Mainline and getting rejected?
Why does it matter? Did you get rejected?
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 02:55
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Have you ever heard of a women having an interview at Mainline and getting rejected?
Yes. I know a few.
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 02:56
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Have you ever heard of a women having an interview at Mainline and getting rejected?
3 of them on my interview day got rejected so they are definitely not just rubber stamping them
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 03:58
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What a strange turn to the thread, who cares if female candidates are accepted at a higher rate (I don’t think that is true). Having more diversity amongst the Pilot ranks has to be a good thing after all. Maybe the Female candidates with the higher acceptance rate are just better candidates?
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 12:56
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What a strange turn to the thread, who cares if female candidates are accepted at a higher rate (I don’t think that is true). Having more diversity amongst the Pilot ranks has to be a good thing after all. Maybe the Female candidates with the higher acceptance rate are just better candidates?
Is it just females who can get in off single pilot operations or does he/him candidates also get a chance?

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