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Old 15th September 2019 | 06:27
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I just flew with an Aussie guy here in the States on the E3 and he had an offer from a 777 cargo outfit. Unfortunately that outfit has worse T&C then most of the regionals, I advised him to proceed with great caution and only if he wanted it for a way to Asia.
Has to have been from Southern Air, part of Atlas group. I got same offer.
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Old 15th September 2019 | 18:05
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They don't stipulate an FAA pilot certificate because they never considered people with non FAA credentials applying.

Don't be one of these people who get upset because you find out when you start training that you are not eligible for the CPP program or a flow or whatever else they said to you at interview. They don't tailor the recruiting pitch to non American.

Also, you can't put foreign ratings on an FAA pilot certificate. The FAA only recognise types done by FAA examiners using FAA approved facilities. Many have tried, all failed.
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Old 15th September 2019 | 20:16
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Originally Posted by pilotchute
They don't stipulate an FAA pilot certificate because they never considered people with non FAA credentials applying. ​​​
'chute,

That may very well be the case. Can't the question of bonus for non-US type ratings be answered with certainty by the recruiting staff at a regional ?

People showing up with type ratings on their foreign tickets does have value by demonstrating one's ability to jump the rating hoops. That should be something of value to a regional.
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Old 15th September 2019 | 21:11
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Originally Posted by TinFoilhat2


Has to have been from Southern Air, part of Atlas group. I got same offer.
Are these offers being extended to those outside of the US, or only those already on the E3?
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Old 15th September 2019 | 21:31
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Originally Posted by Brakerider
Are these offers being extended to those outside of the US, or only those already on the E3?
Their posting of requirements is inconclusive on that count. It's the standard "Legally authorized to work in the USA" which doesn't say anything about whom they actually hire or under what circumstances. There's a way to find out: apply and see what happens:

https://www.google.com/search?client...3D&htivrt=jobs


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Old 15th September 2019 | 21:36
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It is for people who already have an FAA ATP.
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Old 15th September 2019 | 22:36
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Originally Posted by pilotchute
They don't stipulate an FAA pilot certificate because they never considered people with non FAA credentials applying.

Don't be one of these people who get upset because you find out when you start training that you are not eligible for the CPP program or a flow or whatever else they said to you at interview. They don't tailor the recruiting pitch to non American.

Also, you can't put foreign ratings on an FAA pilot certificate. The FAA only recognise types done by FAA examiners using FAA approved facilities. Many have tried, all failed.
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Well all of my type ratings were done by FAA Examiners and then transferred onto my CASA licence, so still passed all the required FAA requirements for IPC on type....just don't have it on an FAA ATP.
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Old 15th September 2019 | 23:07
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If you read the Southern Air ad it stipulates an FAA ATP and first class medical and 500 hours with a part 121 carrier. Thats American part 121. Not European or Australian or anything else.

US carriers dont care about what type ratings you have as you pretty much have to do it again for whatever company you work for. Guys who change companies to fly the exact same type pretty much do a full type all over again. The only thing i think the type rating bonus is for would be to lure people from other regionals.

I also did a type in the USA some years ago and nobody cares.

Lastly recruiting have a checklist to cover. They know very little about anything outside of the checklist. They get paid for how many people turn up to class so take that any way you want.

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Old 16th September 2019 | 02:15
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Does the E3 only apply to airline ops in the US? Could you get one for Part 91?
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Old 16th September 2019 | 11:00
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Originally Posted by Brakerider
Are these offers being extended to those outside of the US, or only those already on the E3?
Only E3 as far as I am aware.
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Old 16th September 2019 | 11:06
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Originally Posted by DrongoDriver
Does the E3 only apply to airline ops in the US? Could you get one for Part 91?
Yes you can for part 91, 135 and 121.

The trick is to get the company to sponsor the visa. Outside of the regionals you will find it is quite difficult if not impossible unless you know somebody personally willing to do it within an organisation.
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Old 16th September 2019 | 11:37
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Generally speaking only airline ops due to the higher specialisation of an airline role in the eyes of the law. Also there is a shortage of 1500h 121 applicants.... Not part 91 hour builders.

Took a look at Southern Air's pay..... Its up there with the regionals pay. 50hr guarantee at 80 per hour...similar to 50 per hour at a 75 guarantee......

No signing bonus and only $1600 per month as training pay. So less than all regionals....hmmmm

But you get a 737 or 777 rating

So with that in mind it wouldnt surprise me if they are taking aussies.

Oh and based in CVG. Beautiful
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Old 16th September 2019 | 12:59
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Pretty sure E3 if for a specialist occupation. They would look at the qualifications held rather than the position applied for.
I know of biz jet operators hiring H1B pilots so won't rule it out.
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Old 16th September 2019 | 16:00
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The pull to Atlas / Southern must be strong for whoever is considering it. I guess the 747 / 777 is a big enough magnet.

It is arguably the worst employer in the industry for the lowest paid wide body job on the planet. No to mention the industrial disputes. Imagine all the friends you'd make on those 15 hour overnight flights when you've inserted yourself into one of the most disgruntled pilot groups in America, on a visa that there is no way in hell they would accept if they had an amicable contract.

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Old 16th September 2019 | 18:23
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn
54 pages of thread talking about the experiences of being an Australian on an E3 visa at the regionals and you're wondering if anyone has one?
Yes, because last time I checked, a Bachelor's degree was not a requirement to serve as captain or FO on a commercial flight. And that is the "minimum entry level" in the statute that I quoted. In other words: I'd be interested to learn how you got that approved by USCIS.
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Old 16th September 2019 | 18:34
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The job description doesn't need to stipulate a degree but the person apply should have considerable experience in that field.
You are just picking on piloting because there is a bit of a grey area there.

I would say most specialist occupations do require a degree but they can't write the rules to cover every possible scenario.
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Old 30th September 2019 | 23:29
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Howdy (darn there I go talking like a yank again), errr Gday Chezz, FYI i can’t reply to you until you empty your inbox... cheers. Ralphi
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Old 4th October 2019 | 14:04
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Old 4th October 2019 | 16:06
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Word of warning. If you're on an e3 visa you are in breach if applying for permanent residency and will likely have your e3 revoked the next time you cross the border.

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Old 4th October 2019 | 21:23
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Word of warning. If you're on an e3 visa you are in breach if applying for permanent residency and will likely have your e3 revoked the next time you cross the border.
Wow. That's an eye opener.
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