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Old 17th Sep 2015, 14:14
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Anyone who decides to take a job like this that pays such atrocious wages is prostituting themselves and their American pilot brothers and really shouldn't be flying anyways.

The reason they are recruiting Australians is because they aren't getting enough applicants from the USA because the wages/conditions are so poor.

Sometimes it is better to say no. Think how much $ and effort your licence took to obtain. You are worth more than $29K per year Don't be so desperate
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Old 17th Sep 2015, 14:56
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Anyone too lazy to do the reading/research on Regional Wages...

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Old 18th Sep 2015, 15:50
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I doubt if Horizon is recruiting outside of the USA...yet, They are just a little better than the average regional here in the US and I believe they have a quasi flow through to Alaska Airlines which is a very desirable airline here in the US.

Skywest is not bad and while the wages are not stellar they are better than mst of the other regionals. They do have a base in Seattle as well if that's important, A friend of mine got an unsolicited card from Skywest urging him to apply for a position so they must be on an active hiring campaign.

Most if not all major airlines here in the US will not consider you without a four year degree. That may change but I would not hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
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Old 18th Sep 2015, 23:26
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Love Doctor,

Come now, you're just being a 'naysayer'. (note sarcasm)

Slugga

I posted the original on page 2. I'll do it again here for ease of access. The really scary thing is that if you look at the wages overall, they almost haven't moved. Maybe a couple of grand in 10 years. 10 YEARS. Thats scary.

http://www.veoh.com/m/watch.php?v=v15759358A7a6kYTA
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Old 19th Sep 2015, 01:25
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Anyone who decides to take a job like this that pays such atrocious wages is prostituting themselves and their American pilot brothers and really shouldn't be flying anyways.

The reason they are recruiting Australians is because they aren't getting enough applicants from the USA because the wages/conditions are so poor.

Sometimes it is better to say no. Think how much $ and effort your licence took to obtain. You are worth more than $29K per year Don't be so desperate
Very true.

However at entry level jobs you are never going to get much more than that anyway. If you are in the sub 1500TT market you are scratching around on poor salaries anyway.

If you then had the option to fly in a an airline with the opportunity to fly jets for that sort of money which would you pick? The busted arse single flying around Arnhem land or a regional in the USA?
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Old 20th Sep 2015, 05:52
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Love Dr, I wondered that while I was prostituting myself for a lot less than 29k a year in GA for the first 7 years. First job flying a 182 - $18,200/year on a station, meatbombing in a cresco paid about late 25k/year, $50/MR hour on a baron for my first twin job eating baked beans 3 times a day hoping some work would come in. Hardly raking it in.

This was mid 2000's and not uncommon. I loved my GA time, but I certainly never got paid well. From what I hear it hasn't improved a great deal since then. Before you bash other countries, go and ask a 210 or baron driver what they're on. I'm more than happy to be corrected, as I'd love to see a station (or stationair) driver get paid reasonably.
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 12:18
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Gone pretty quiet.

Anyone actually got the gig?
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 17:27
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KRUSTY,

Kinda wonderin' about that myself. :-)
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 11:01
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Atpcliff

A Part 135 carrier can operate with a maximum of 30 seats. I am of the opinion most would know this as it is fundamental.
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 11:54
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Originally Posted by B772 View Post
Atpcliff

A Part 135 carrier can operate with a maximum of 30 seats. I am of the opinion most would know this as it is fundamental.
Not in scheduled passenger operations, which is what is being discussed here. In scheduled operations the maximum number of seats allowed under part 135 is 9 seats, just like I said earlier.
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 13:10
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This obviously requires the roll out and launch of a Test Aussie who'll apply and provide a reconnaissance assessment. ;-)
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 13:21
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Send Vince.



Give him an ANZAC hat and a didgeridoo and send him over.
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 00:39
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I can assure you that Australians are always welcome in the USA.
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Old 13th Oct 2015, 06:49
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A job to highlight your resume.....

....and an interesting change from Ayres Rock scenics.
DC6 First Officer

http://www.evertsair.com/pdf/job_descriptions/DC6.pdf

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Old 13th Oct 2015, 07:06
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Originally Posted by pithblot View Post
....and an interesting change from Ayres Rock scenics.
DC6 First Officer

http://www.evertsair.com/pdf/job_descriptions/DC6.pdf
Yeah, that would be an interesting change, be careful what you ask for though.

Regardless, you must have missed the requirements for US citizenship and US passport at the bottom of the advertisement.
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 12:58
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US citizenship and US passport at the bottom of the advertisement
And non slip shoes.
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 15:08
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Originally Posted by compressor stall View Post
And non slip shoes.
Took me a minute.
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 05:45
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Originally Posted by A Squared View Post
Not in scheduled passenger operations, which is what is being discussed here. In scheduled operations the maximum number of seats allowed under part 135 is 9 seats, just like I said earlier.
Look up DOT Part 380. Scheduled operations with turbojet airplanes of up to 30 seats is just fine with DOT and FAA for a Part 135 carrier.
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 05:59
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Originally Posted by desertwest View Post
Look up DOT Part 380. Scheduled operations with turbojet airplanes of up to 30 seats is just fine with DOT and FAA for a Part 135 carrier.
DOT 380 addresses charters. charters, by definition are not scheduled operations.

Scheduled operations are when you, as an operator, tell the public that you will be operating an airplane from XXX to YYY, Departing XXX at 11:45 every weekday morning and you will sell people tickets to ride on that airplane.

As has been correctly stated here, more than once, the maximum seats in scheduled transportation for a Part 135 certificate holder is 9.

Since you mention Part 380, I have to ask, did you read it yourself? in Part 380 you will find the following:

Charter flight means a flight operated under the terms of a charter contract between a direct air carrier and its customer. It does not include scheduled air transportation, scheduled foreign air transportation, or nonscheduled cargo air transportation, sold on an individually ticketed or individually waybilled basis.
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Old 27th Oct 2015, 14:38
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Semantics.

A public charter under 380 allows anyone who can pay for a ticket to book a flight between two (or more) city pairs with a pre-defined departure date/time of a frequency not limited by Part 135 rules.

As a passenger, tell me how booking a ticket on flyviaair.com differs from southwest.com.

Via is a direct air carrier under Part 135. Southwest is scheduled airline service under Part 121.

The only difference is the number of seats, maximum of 30 (or payload not more than 7500 lbs) for Part 135.



Originally Posted by A Squared View Post
DOT 380 addresses charters. charters, by definition are not scheduled operations.

Scheduled operations are when you, as an operator, tell the public that you will be operating an airplane from XXX to YYY, Departing XXX at 11:45 every weekday morning and you will sell people tickets to ride on that airplane.

As has been correctly stated here, more than once, the maximum seats in scheduled transportation for a Part 135 certificate holder is 9.

Since you mention Part 380, I have to ask, did you read it yourself? in Part 380 you will find the following:

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