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Old 28th Oct 2019, 01:21
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Originally Posted by havick View Post


aviationinterviews.com has all the questions you will encounter at whatever regional you apply for. That site is as accurate as it gets.
Thanks for the link, looks like a tonne of info there too.
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Old 29th Oct 2019, 22:21
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Originally Posted by squat6160 View Post

Hi i just looked at the requirements andi it says 4yr of degree aviation or 12yrs of experience in order to get E3 visa .. do you have one of those? I have only flying hours ready
No I don't and nor do most the people I know currently working as E3s in the US. Seems to be a grey area, but they seem to recognise the flying qualifications and having the required hours to hold an ATP licence as equivalent. I heard that the Melbourne and Perth consulates are the most straight forward to deal with. I do have a Diploma and hear that has also been helpful to others in the past.
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Old 30th Oct 2019, 05:57
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No offence intended squat6160, but you are an Australian, right?
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Old 30th Oct 2019, 06:19
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Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere View Post
No offence intended squat6160, but you are an Australian, right?
Equally confused....
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Old 7th Nov 2019, 09:34
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FYI: Latest GoJet Airlines ad for pilots on AFAP...Nov. 7th:

https://www.afap.org.au/pilot-jobs/p...FFICER%20PILOT
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Old 7th Nov 2019, 23:21
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Originally Posted by Jerry Springer View Post
- Whatís the take-home pay (after tax) USA Regionals are offering new FOs, and what is it for Captains?
- It seems like the Regionals with older aircraft (ERJ145) are paying more than carriers with the ERJ175, right? I guess they need to pay more to attract applicants to an older type?

Personally, Iíd rather the ERJ175 as they are common in Latin America where I have an interest in living.
Iím and Aussie and have an FAA ATP already, but no jet time and only experience in small turbine a/c, plus Iím 46 years old so unlikely to flow onto a major airline.

If I went onto a Regional in the USA what, would be the best salary I could expect about 3 years down the line? The dilemma for me is I can currently take home 8k usd a month plus, just flying a caravan, which is probably already comparable to what a USA regional Captain would make? Right? Iím tossing around the idea of applying to the regionals, but maybe not such a good idea for an old chap?
how much you can earn depends largely on your self. But there is no reason why you couldnít take home more than 8k a month within 2 years.
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Old 8th Nov 2019, 12:43
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Originally Posted by 02041402 View Post
how much you can earn depends largely on your self. But there is no reason why you couldnít take home more than 8k a month within 2 years.
You should probably include that in order to take home 8k within 2 years, you need to be able to upgrade within 2 years, which will entail working your ass off, and picking a regional where that is actually possible.

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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 02:29
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TSA vs ExpressJet

It's refreshing to see some mature and enlightened posts on here for a change
Thanks to both CC & Bafan for posting some useful and relevant information that might actually help some of us.

I just got off the phone to Aerocrew (TSA) and so far so good there.
Am also in the process of drafting an application to ExpressJet. Just wondering if it's easier to apply directly via their website or use AirlineApps??
In terms of these 2 operators, does anyone have any recommendations either way?? Money seems to be similar as far as I can make out.

Thanks again
BAz
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 02:37
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Do it via ExpressJet's website, much easier.
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 13:01
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Originally Posted by beached az View Post
It's refreshing to see some mature and enlightened posts on here for a change
Thanks to both CC & Bafan for posting some useful and relevant information that might actually help some of us.

I just got off the phone to Aerocrew (TSA) and so far so good there.
Am also in the process of drafting an application to ExpressJet. Just wondering if it's easier to apply directly via their website or use AirlineApps??
In terms of these 2 operators, does anyone have any recommendations either way?? Money seems to be similar as far as I can make out.

Thanks again
BAz
I'd say it's mostly a 50/50 choice. Expressjet is the safer job, because TSA lost a lot of their Delta flying, but I suspect upgrade at TSA is around 2 years, vs 5-7 years at Expressjet. I'd probably take the risk on TSA for the quicker upgrade, because regionals are so short staffed for crew that it doesn't really matter if you have to jump ship down the track.
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 20:47
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Originally Posted by beached az View Post
I just got off the phone to Aerocrew (TSA) and so far so good there.
Am also in the process of drafting an application to ExpressJet.

In terms of these 2 operators, does anyone have any recommendations either way??
beached az,

Not being the one having to make decisions, my advice may not be of much value but a couple of thoughts come to mind when trying to put myself in the position of a young Aussie contemplating a plunge into the roiling scrum of US Regional Land:

The reason to join is to get through training and onto the line ASAP, flying as much as possible with an eye to potential upgrade. You have to get some accurate info on who has lengthy delays in the training pipeline and who provides plenty of flight time post-training allowing you to maximize the two years of the visa (it'll likely be renewed but nothing with the Imperial Federal Government is guaranteed).

This may mean joining a carrier not providing the greatest quality of life ( and being worked like a rented mule for a while) then changing horses later. It's a tricky balance because accurate info is hard to get and circumstances can change quickly; it's an educated guess at best.

My son flies for a non-E3 regional with decent pay and QoL but only flew 250 hours in his first 2.5 years there (doesn't matter to him as he has 9,000 hours and plenty of PIC and Part 121 time). I'd guess this rate of flight time accumulation wouldn't ideally suit the purposes of a young Aussie coming here ? Stuck with 100 hours/year flight time accumulation would take a long time to get that 1,000 hours FAA Part 121 time requirement for upgrade.

Just some random thoughts from the front porch of Ye Olde Pilot Home. Feel free to dispute and correct.

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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 22:18
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I'd say it's mostly a 50/50 choice. Expressjet is the safer job, because TSA lost a lot of their Delta flying, but I suspect upgrade at TSA is around 2 years, vs 5-7 years at Expressjet. I'd probably take the risk on TSA for the quicker upgrade, because regionals are so short staffed for crew that it doesn't really matter if you have to jump ship down the track.
Thanks DYS useful info.

I'd guess this rate of flight time accumulation wouldn't ideally suit the purposes of a young Aussie coming here ?
bafanguy

Alas, I'm not quite (or even close too) a spring chicken starting out, I'm late 40s with a 2500 hours mostly Turbine above 5700.
This is a potential career restart after 8 years on the bench flying a desk
I also have a wife (who can work on E3) and 2 dependents to consider in the equation.

Appreciate the advise.
BAz
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 22:28
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Originally Posted by beached az View Post
Thanks DYS useful info.



bafanguy

Alas, I'm not quite (or even close too) a spring chicken starting out, I'm late 40s with a 2500 hours mostly Turbine above 5700.
This is a potential career restart after 8 years on the bench flying a desk
I also have a wife (who can work on E3) and 2 dependents to consider in the equation.

Appreciate the advise.
BAz
Something that comes to mind BAz.. if your wife can get a job on an E3, then you can come over on an E3D visa (spouse visa). You have no work restrictions then, and can work for whoever you like. What's that saying about a cat that had many skins?
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Old 3rd Dec 2019, 08:35
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Originally Posted by beached az View Post
Alas, I'm not quite (or even close too) a spring chicken starting out, I'm late 40s with a 2500 hours mostly Turbine above 5700.
beached az,

My generalization was bound to be off the mark one way or another. But potential training delays or low flight time post-training is still something to avoid to maximize the return on one's efforts.

Best of luck in whatever you decide to do.

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Old 3rd Dec 2019, 20:56
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
beached az,

My generalization was bound to be off the mark one way or another. But potential training delays or low flight time post-training is still something to avoid to maximize the return on one's efforts.

Best of luck in whatever you decide to do.
No worries and thank you.
Good advise for the uninitiated.
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Old 3rd Dec 2019, 21:25
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I havenít heard of anyone being knocked back yet on an E3 renewal. Thatís not to say that it canít happen down the road though.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 16:53
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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks View Post
Something that comes to mind BAz.. if your wife can get a job on an E3, then you can come over on an E3D visa (spouse visa). You have no work restrictions then, and can work for whoever you like. What's that saying about a cat that had many skins?

Yeah nah... Just so you know, the E3D gives the right to live in the US, but doesn't automatically grant the right to work. Once you have your Social Security Number, etc, you can then apply for an Employment Autorization Document (EAD). That process they say can take 90 days, but up to 120 is not uncommon. And you need to reapply for the EAD every time you get a new visa.
So, when the primary E3 holder comes up on their 2 years and reapplies, the new E3D should be granted at the same time. There is no reduction in processing time for a renewal... So explaining to the CP why you'll need 3-4 months off every 2 years might be a stretch.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 19:17
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Originally Posted by dluxx View Post
Yeah nah... Just so you know, the E3D gives the right to live in the US, but doesn't automatically grant the right to work. Once you have your Social Security Number, etc, you can then apply for an Employment Autorization Document (EAD). That process they say can take 90 days, but up to 120 is not uncommon. And you need to reapply for the EAD every time you get a new visa.
So, when the primary E3 holder comes up on their 2 years and reapplies, the new E3D should be granted at the same time. There is no reduction in processing time for a renewal... So explaining to the CP why you'll need 3-4 months off every 2 years might be a stretch.
Aaaaaaand also most companies barely understand an E3 visa, so an EAD will totally confuse them.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 20:58
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Once you have applied for a work permit and received your right to work card, the employer usually doesn't care what visa you are on.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 03:34
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Originally Posted by Climb150 View Post
Once you have applied for a work permit and received your right to work card, the employer usually doesn't care what visa you are on.
Well, theyíre not supposed to discriminate based on what type of work visa/work status you have, but they do.
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