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Old 17th May 2018, 02:05
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Originally Posted by Seagull201
Thanks for the feedback Safe landings, it's much appreciated.

Great to hear you expect to be returning soon and have a job lined up with another operator,
also good to hear you can return to the current operator.

When you come back to OZ, may i suggest you contact Flight Experience in Sydney (darling harbour),
if you're from Syd, or your capital city Flight experience centre and do at least 10 hours with an instructor in the
B737800 fixed base simulator.

In Sydney the instructor is an airline Captain, he can assist you in the transition to airline jet flying,
Flight Exp. also conduct MCC (multi crew co-ordination training in the B7378 sim)
Check the website on google.

Also, have a look at this website, angle of attack B737 training.com or
737NGXtraining.com , it's a US website.
I'm aware you're not going to fly a B7378 but an Emb175/Emb145/CRJ900/CRJ200,
one of them, the website has excellent explanation of the glass cockpit, which is the
same for all aircraft.
Parts of the video ground school may assist you with your assigned aircraft studies.

Have a look at it and see what you think.

Another thing, it could be an idea to be familiar with the ATC read backs, they talk over there
quite fast and ATC is dealing with so many aircraft each minute, and from what i seen on the internet,
a person has to readback ten lines without error.
Just watch any kingair or Cessna mustang flight, posted on youtube.

Get yourself prepared for next time.
I'm sure you will do quite well.

Just had a quick read of the thread. This is very good advice. I hired the QF sim and used the old flight sim software B737 at the time. I use NGX for my recurrent sims. Certainly not perfect but does help. I nailed the interview sim, it was perfect I couldn't believe it.
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Old 17th May 2018, 02:16
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Hi Everyone

I actually did 10 hours Sim in B737 before I went to USA for first Regional Airline job. I did V1 cut, steep turns, ILS approaches etc. I already started studying for the next aircraft type. I have heard radio calls in US can be a challenge due to many aircraft at one time.

Thanks for encouragement.

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Old 17th May 2018, 08:30
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I have on my storage somewhere a book on generic airliner systems. I think it is published by Jeppesen. It covers the typical system designs for electrical, hydraulics, pneumatics etc. Once you grasp the basic design philosophy learning a different type becomes a lot easier. Also search for a book by Jim Webb called “Fly the Wing”. Its a bit dated but it has valuable strategies for passing an typical FAA type rating as well as an exhaustive discussion of high speed aerodynamics and swept wing characteristics.

Good luck in the new gig. And very good on you for honestly posting about your difficulties on that first course.
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Old 17th May 2018, 09:52
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Hi Australopithecus

Thanks for the recommendation for the book by Jim Webb. I will buy it if I can find one.

Thanks for the well wishes for the next new gig and for my honesty. Failure is not something people like to talk about because it is embarrassing however if I can save just one person from going through the possibility of failing an airline course, I have achieved a mission in itself.

Thank you again.

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Old 17th May 2018, 14:00
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Originally Posted by Safe Landings
Hi Australopithecus

Thanks for the recommendation for the book by Jim Webb. I will buy it if I can find one.

Thanks for the well wishes for the next new gig and for my honesty. Failure is not something people like to talk about because it is embarrassing however if I can save just one person from going through the possibility of failing an airline course, I have achieved a mission in itself.

Thank you again.

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what did you find you struggled with going through initial? Also which company?

not all companies are equal and some have better training departments than others.
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Old 18th May 2018, 04:49
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I struggled with Ground School (Aircraft Systems) section of the course. It is very fast paced. I had to go through 43 chapters in 4 days - about 7 or 8 chapters of them were CRM. It was Computer Based Training (CBT) and was not really covered in class. CRM portion was straight forward. The company was the one that most Aussies go for, I believe. They advertised heavily towards end of last year.

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Old 18th May 2018, 22:23
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Originally Posted by Safe Landings
I struggled with Ground School (Aircraft Systems) section of the course. It is very fast paced. I had to go through 43 chapters in 4 days - about 7 or 8 chapters of them were CRM. It was Computer Based Training (CBT) and was not really covered in class. CRM portion was straight forward. The company was the one that most Aussies go for, I believe. They advertised heavily towards end of last year.

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sounds like you’ve never been through a fast paced/large volume information course before.

in your shoes I would try again with commutair. They’re hiring Aussies on e3’s, captain pay 2nd year regardless of being upgraded or not.

second time around you will know how to prep/study a little better.

expect the same firehose Type course with any airline you join in the US. You are not spoon fed.

good luck hope it all works out
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Old 19th May 2018, 04:36
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Hi Havick

You are correct, I have never been through a fast paces/large volume course before and I am better prepared for the second airline.

I have been warned already that to expect the same firehose with any airline I join in US.

Thanks for the well wishes.

Regards

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Old 20th May 2018, 15:27
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Originally Posted by Safe Landings
I struggled with Ground School (Aircraft Systems) section of the course. It is very fast paced.
Safe Landings,

If one looks for a silver lining in your situation, the systems knowledge issue is likely the easiest of several aspects to correct. A stick-and-rudder stumble would be more difficult to overcome.

If you're heading to a different company with a different airplane, find some generic systems info online and hit it hard before you go.
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Hi Bafanguy

Yes I can not agree with you more. The new airline have sent me material to study already and am doing further online study.

Thanks

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Hey Safe Landings.

Were you CRJ or ERJ? We had about 6 Aussies in our CRJ class and everyone got through ok. I'm wondering what you would have done differently given the opportunity? Did you miss systems twice or did you only have one pass left?

I'm sure it won't be difficult to get in on another regional. Just make every waking hour study time. I was vegetarian during class just because I could cook my dinner and eat it in like 15 minutes, then return to study. Lunch breaks were an hour but most of us took about 20 minutes. Maximise that study time.

Many nights as well we'd just sit in a circle and make up questions for each other. get a study group then you can keep each other accountable

​​​good luck.
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Such a mature outlook Safe Landings. I am really interested in US and this was the best information (and unusual to find on Prune).
What about the Airline prep course offered by Aviation Australia? Is this or the 10 hours B737 SIM in Sydney
better prep?
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Old 23rd May 2018, 12:38
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Such a mature outlook Safe Landings. I am really interested in US and this was the best information (and unusual to find on Prune).
What about the Airline prep course offered by Aviation Australia? Is this or the 10 hours B737 SIM in Sydney
better prep?
no absolute waste of money for someone going to US regionals.
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Old 24th May 2018, 11:15
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Just pondering the case of a person heading north to take on their first air carrier jet from a light airplane background.

Those of you who have done this from similar circumstances, what would you suggest a compatriot study in preparation for the training ? It seems rather a lot of subject matter to cover. Not sure I'd know what to tell someone.
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Old 24th May 2018, 13:10
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
Just pondering the case of a person heading north to take on their first air carrier jet from a light airplane background.

Those of you who have done this from similar circumstances, what would you suggest a compatriot study in preparation for the training ? It seems rather a lot of subject matter to cover. Not sure I'd know what to tell someone.
Back in the day I read the book ‘Turbine Pilots Flight Manual’ but I was going from a 210 to a multi crew turboprop over 12500lbs. I honestly think the Aussie ATPL theory on aerodynamics, basic gas turbine and the Flying Glass is pretty good for basics.

I’d probably download the US FAR/AIM, the Instrument Handbook by the FAA and the Aviation Weather books on meteorology for a grounding as well as a really good IPAD app ‘Everything explained for the Professional Pilot’. Not so in my current job but at the regional level I’m sure they ask you cloud clearance criteria for various airspace, lost comm procedures etc during the oral. Well maybe not with AQP but you should know this stuff anyhow.

I honestly think it would do ppl well to come over and hire an instructor to go fly a lil IFR before launching cold into a job with an airline here. It can be a bit of a change and challenge getting up to speed with various expressions/ATC terminology.


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Old 24th May 2018, 17:00
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I'll toss these in for a bit of Jeps review. The Chart Clinic is particularly good for for intro/review of the format:


http://ww1.jeppesen.com/documents/av.../intro-USA.pdf

Jeppesen Chart Clinic
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Old 24th May 2018, 22:22
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
I'll toss these in for a bit of Jeps review. The Chart Clinic is particularly good for for intro/review of the format:


http://ww1.jeppesen.com/documents/av.../intro-USA.pdf

Jeppesen Chart Clinic
I’ll add two useful concepts for training;

1. Cooperate and graduate - If you’re in your room, by yourself, trying to read the AOM & FOM from front to back - You’re screwed. Memorize what you need to, and then study for the oral exam in a small group. Gather gouge (cheat sheets, work flows, flows etc.). Share it. Chair fly in a paper tiger or VPT with your Sim partner. Memorize your flows however you like, then do them repeatedly with a partner. Do practice Orals with a small group. Asking yourself questions isn’t really effective.

2. Put out the Fire Cosest to you. - Unless you’re a fkin genius, do not study for your 5th Sim when you don’t know your memory items, limitations, and you haven’t passed the Oral. Prioritize.

3. Don’t forget to go to the bar - Seriously

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#2 is great info. I found it quite difficult having to seemingly learn everything at one time. Oral prep (systems knowledge), flows and learning the profiles. It’s a little different in how we do things (even airline level) in Oz.

One tip tip I can share that works well is when your uncertain whether you understand a system or concept is try to explain it to someone. Teaching something shows you understand it.

Having a a beer or two can be a great way to blow off steam, exercise is also great and helps calm a running mind.
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Old 25th May 2018, 03:43
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One girl in my class failed after trying to write too many notes, sometimes you just need to sit back and listen. She was literally writing down every word that the instructor spoke
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Old 25th May 2018, 16:40
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FYI, Compass stopped E-3 thing, just letting you guys know.

That leaves Mesa, SkyWest, CommutAir, Trans State and Piedmont still offering E-3.
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