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Old 24th April 2022 | 15:33
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It also doesn’t help when the other premier carrier has a list as long as Santa’s of pilots they need to recall first.
First of all the list is not very long. Secondly, plenty who must be offered a chance to go back, will never go back for a variety of reasons including already being employed.
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Old 24th April 2022 | 16:32
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Originally Posted by logansi
If you meet the minimums (I don't) and don't have comittments in Australia you'd be stupid not to apply. 320 f/o with command in like 5 years.


Also random question: Is there anything that could stop the cargo carriers from offering positions that enable pilots to live in Australia by offering lines commencing in Australia or Asia?
Of course not. Up until recently FedEx had a base in Hong Kong. Although there are no Asian / Australian bases at Atlas, many Australian pilots have chosen Atlas because the potential to commute from Australia is much higher.
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Old 25th April 2022 | 11:45
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Can you get your FAA medical in Aus without holding a current CASA Class 1? Or without an FAA ATP/CPL?
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Old 25th April 2022 | 12:27
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Yes and yes.
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Old 25th April 2022 | 14:44
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Originally Posted by logansi
Also random question: Is there anything that could stop the cargo carriers from offering positions that enable pilots to live in Australia by offering lines commencing in Australia or Asia?
The biggest problem with this is having to comply with Australia’s onerous and horrendously complicated employment laws, not to mention tax laws. Unless it makes financial sense to do so, no airline would choose to open an Australian domicile. Personally, I wouldn’t expect it to happen any time soon.
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Old 26th April 2022 | 21:15
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This Ravn ad appeared at the top of the stack today. Reading between the lines, it's aimed at E3 candidates who've been flying in a US Part 121 operation for the magical 1,000 hours that allow a captain spot. So, "...air carrier experience..." must be Part 121 ?

"...2500 hours in a fixed wing aircraft, of which 1000 hours will be multi-engine turbine flight time, and 1000 hours total flight time will be air carrier experience..."



https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/14...mpaign=general

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Old 27th April 2022 | 03:31
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Here’s an idea. Because CASA is all about safety an all. …. It would make sense to have the same Part 121 requirement here……

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Old 27th April 2022 | 17:07
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Originally Posted by t_cas
Here’s an idea. Because CASA is all about safety an all. …. It would make sense to have the same Part 121 requirement here……
Casa doesn't need that requirement because the time to wait for any sort of desirable command is about a decade.
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Old 28th April 2022 | 01:04
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Although, you will find DEC into these jobs that are below acceptable conditions.... that is the point.
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Old 28th April 2022 | 05:59
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Although, you will find DEC into these jobs that are below acceptable conditions.... that is the point.
You do realize that even the regional pilots in the US are banking more than most Aussie mainline pilots?
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Old 28th April 2022 | 07:15
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Originally Posted by havick
You do realize that even the regional pilots in the US are banking more than most Aussie mainline pilots?
The LCC like Spirit, JetBlue, Frontier etc most definitely are banking more than most Aussie mainline, airline salaries in Australia considering cost of living here are basically for a better word..absolute CR@P!
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Old 28th April 2022 | 13:09
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Although, you will find DEC into these jobs that are below acceptable conditions.... that is the point.
The ignorance, arrogance and stupidity of Australian, skygod pilots. When was your last improvement of conditions?

How long does it take to command in a jet in Australia/USA?

What is the per hour rate at Qantas, Virgin, Spirit, AA, UAL, Delta, what's your min guarantee?

What do your reserve/rostering rules look like? Can you swap trips? What are the rules surrounding roster building?

What does your super/401k look like after 10/20/30 years? Can you retire at 50/55/60 in Aus v USA?

What did the top FedEx/UPS Captain/FO earn last year, 2 years ago, 5 years ago?

Can you commute? Is your commuting company supported? Do you have KCM in Aus?

What does your seat lock look like? What are the rules surrounding seniority and seat lock look like?

And more importantly, do you own your RV6/7/8/9/10/14 prior to retirement?

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Old 28th April 2022 | 13:29
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Originally Posted by dr dre
US 10 year Regional Captain at PSA (one that is taking Aussies according to previous posts) on about $140k AUD. Some bonuses but the biggest ones are if flow through to AA.

Mainline Oz? Well dependent on carrier and fleet but with 10 years service you’d be making more than that.
Sadly No.

a 737 VA as a 10 even 15 +yr FO does not have that high a base -Prior to Bain yes, circa base $157K year 3 FO. Let alone makeup the last 2 years of lost income. Weren't US pilots paid continuously during Covid.
​​​​​​$130,065 VA 55 hrs MCG - $175.50 hr productivity
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Old 29th April 2022 | 03:43
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Originally Posted by tossbag
The ignorance, arrogance and stupidity of Australian, skygod pilots. When was your last improvement of conditions?

How long does it take to command in a jet in Australia/USA?

What is the per hour rate at Qantas, Virgin, Spirit, AA, UAL, Delta, what's your min guarantee?

What do your reserve/rostering rules look like? Can you swap trips? What are the rules surrounding roster building?

What does your super/401k look like after 10/20/30 years? Can you retire at 50/55/60 in Aus v USA?

What did the top FedEx/UPS Captain/FO earn last year, 2 years ago, 5 years ago?

Can you commute? Is your commuting company supported? Do you have KCM in Aus?

What does your seat lock look like? What are the rules surrounding seniority and seat lock look like?

And more importantly, do you own your RV6/7/8/9/10/14 prior to retirement?
Good questions, but you forgot the most important one...

What does your seniority do for you in reverse? Last I heard A380 capt was the most senior position in Aus, yet they got booted out first when the **** hit the fan...
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Old 29th April 2022 | 03:52
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Originally Posted by tossbag
The ignorance, arrogance and stupidity of Australian, skygod pilots. When was your last improvement of conditions?

How long does it take to command in a jet in Australia/USA?

What is the per hour rate at Qantas, Virgin, Spirit, AA, UAL, Delta, what's your min guarantee?

What do your reserve/rostering rules look like? Can you swap trips? What are the rules surrounding roster building?

What does your super/401k look like after 10/20/30 years? Can you retire at 50/55/60 in Aus v USA?

What did the top FedEx/UPS Captain/FO earn last year, 2 years ago, 5 years ago?

Can you commute? Is your commuting company supported? Do you have KCM in Aus?

What does your seat lock look like? What are the rules surrounding seniority and seat lock look like?

And more importantly, do you own your RV6/7/8/9/10/14 prior to retirement?
More importantly, why does anyone care, if you are happy to go to America be it for the short term or the long term - it's good for everyone. It's another pathway people can take - right now there are more options (airlines) in America than airlines in Australia. For those who don't want to take it, it means fewer people fighting for the same job here in Australia.
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Old 1st May 2022 | 03:46
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What University or organisation is verify that your aviation qualifications are equivalent to a degree or there of?
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Old 1st May 2022 | 09:00
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What University or organisation is verify that your aviation qualifications are equivalent to a degree or there of?
I used 2 different companies, 1 cheap and 1 expensive as I didn't want to wait and find out one was dodgy. Turned out that they were both very similar.

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Old 1st May 2022 | 09:45
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Originally Posted by tossbag
The ignorance, arrogance and stupidity of Australian, skygod pilots. When was your last improvement of conditions?

How long does it take to command in a jet in Australia/USA?

What is the per hour rate at Qantas, Virgin, Spirit, AA, UAL, Delta, what's your min guarantee?

What do your reserve/rostering rules look like? Can you swap trips? What are the rules surrounding roster building?

What does your super/401k look like after 10/20/30 years? Can you retire at 50/55/60 in Aus v USA?

What did the top FedEx/UPS Captain/FO earn last year, 2 years ago, 5 years ago?

Can you commute? Is your commuting company supported? Do you have KCM in Aus?

What does your seat lock look like? What are the rules surrounding seniority and seat lock look like?

And more importantly, do you own your RV6/7/8/9/10/14 prior to retirement?
Realizing one can use seniority to get a better schedule is like a light bulb moment. I wish I’d taken any job in the States years before I did.
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Old 1st May 2022 | 11:21
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Hi Guys....

Has anyone appeared for Piedmont or Gojet Interview?

Insights would be helpful... questions? format?

TIA guys
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Old 1st May 2022 | 13:56
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Originally Posted by dr dre
US 10 year Regional Captain at PSA (one that is taking Aussies according to previous posts) on about $140k AUD. Some bonuses but the biggest ones are if flow through to AA.

Mainline Oz? Well dependent on carrier and fleet but with 10 years service you’d be making more than that.
The flaw in this logic and it’s one that most make, is that you can’t compare the $ to $ amounts you’re paid for a years work. It’s, as the Yanks would say, apples to oranges. You need to consider not only the tax you pay but what you’re left with in you pocket after any deductions of your gross pay and more importantly, what it will buy you.

I used to chuckle when Aussies would bang on about how well paid they were compared to Americans. My reply “well you need to be because you couldn’t afford to live here, otherwise” generally jammed a cog in their heads.
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