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ummmm....jetstar still fly around there so the bogans and great unwashed remain!!
Back to a previous point: if BNE-SIN reverts to a 333 to allow MEL-SIN to be a 744, then what's the plan for SYD-SIN? I realise QF5/6 has had a reprieve for the time being, however is SIN-FRA going to continue indefinitely? Is the ultimate plan for SYD-SIN to be 744 (plus the QF81/82 A332) regardless of the ultimate fate of SIN-FRA?
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Nearly nobody from Jetstar Australia connects into Jetstar Asia, so I've not seen any bogans on Jetstar Asia. I fly Jetstar Asia a lot, and they have always been on time, have new planes and have a very respectable client base. Plenty of business people use them and I have seen many passengers with SIA PPS tags on their hand carry luggage. In fact I gladly fly Jetstar Asia to KL, Manila and Jakarta for work. The schedules are sometimes better, with an early morning departure to Manila, and a 9pm departure from Manila, whereas SQ's earliest flight leaves SIN at 0930, and its latest flight leaves MNL at 1830-1900, making a day trip from SIN impossible.
Plenty of bogans in Bali though.
By the way, it is not likely that QF will be serving SYDSIN more than once daily within 12 months.
Plenty of bogans in Bali though.
By the way, it is not likely that QF will be serving SYDSIN more than once daily within 12 months.
Qantas adds new flights to Singapore - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller
A refresher of the announced changes. A quick search still shows 747 and premium economy for sale from BNE-SIN post April. MEL-SIN the same. SYD-SIN the same post Oct.
Maybe 747 retirement schedule to change?
We will just have to wait and see what happens when all those bogan 330's return to the mother. What's the word inside the shining star regarding those crew members' future?
A refresher of the announced changes. A quick search still shows 747 and premium economy for sale from BNE-SIN post April. MEL-SIN the same. SYD-SIN the same post Oct.
Maybe 747 retirement schedule to change?
We will just have to wait and see what happens when all those bogan 330's return to the mother. What's the word inside the shining star regarding those crew members' future?
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Long live the kangaroo route! (Qantas inclusive)
Thank God! I'm looking forward to a Bogan free Singapore and KL.
I was thinking about the huge business risk AJ is taking if the EK/QF thing doesn't turn out to be what QF and the ACCC think will happen... I shudder just thinking about it.. asking myself the question, "What if people still prefer to fly via SE Asia to LHR with no Australian alternative AUS/LHR via SE Asia, seamless.... ??
Traditionally Australians flying to Europe stop somewhere in Asia, way before the term "bogan" became well entrenched in the Aussie vernacular. It really wasn't long ago when Q was two stops to LHR via SE Asian and a Gulf port.(been there done that stuff) 742-3 days when everyone was happy and you were addressed as Mr or Mrs Bogan.
At the time most people preferred an Asian stopover compared to the Gulf, for whatever reason.
When the 744s adopted the route making it one stop via BKK or SIN to LHR. the Gulf ports became fly overs, forgotten. Enter, EK etc etc you know the rest... EK and their Gulf mates were the enemy, suddenly, alas, great mates woof, all is forgotten..., only joking ...
I am sure I remember AJ saying something like, we have to embrace Asia. (sic) so what does he do?
Moves everything Qantas to Dubai...
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I was thinking about the huge business risk AJ is taking if the EK/QF thing doesn't turn to be what QF and the ACCC think will happen... I shudder to think.. if people still prefer to fly via SE Asia with no Australian alternative AUS/LHR via SE Asia, seamless.
The airport is huge and looks impressive, but on the inside it has been very poorly designed, space is very badly used, the focus is on shopping, there is lack of seating, lack of toilets (also not clean), lack of places to eat. There was no thought put into the airport experience that you find in Singapore, Hong Kong, Seoul
One of the worst airports I've ever visited. I was exhausted by the time I arrived here at one in the morning after a decidedly uncomfortable flight and was therefore looking forward to what I had thought would be a swanky modern airport befitting a gulf state famous for the emphasis it places on customer service. I was obviously wrong. With its endless rows of Duty Free shops, the airport functions more like a shopping mall than a travel terminal, and lacks the sort of facilities other less wealthy places have. Sweated like a pig wandering around trying to find a restaurant or café that wasn't besieged by swarms of equally thirsty passengers. Not only were the crowds nigh impossible to navigate through, but throughout my entire four- hour long ordeal here I never managed to find a seat; like many others I was instead forced to squat it out on the floor some distance away from my gate. The inexcusable lack of toilets is further compounded by their filthiness - although there were attendants inside the three which I visited, none had any opportunity to actually clean the place due to the queues.
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Hasn't seemed to be problem in the decade and a bit I have been over there Antheads. Are you suggesting that QF pax are not as bright as the 100s of millions of pax that have been using DXB in the past?
I seem to remember some well hung Ozzies in Malaysia, Singas and Bangkok and yet QF pax seem to handle that ok.
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I seem to remember some well hung Ozzies in Malaysia, Singas and Bangkok and yet QF pax seem to handle that ok.
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I think you misunderstand me, i'm not talking about illegals just your garden variety medicines. This article sumarizes the problem perfectly.
In fact there was an individual who was jailed for 4 years for inadvertently bringing a poppy seed bun (ham & cheese?) which he had purchased before boarding
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In regards to the qf pax?
I think you misunderstand me, i'm not talking about illegals just your garden variety medicines. This article sumarizes the problem perfectly.
Many medicines that are prescribed in Britain and even sold over the counter are considered to be controlled substances in the UAE and must be accompanied by a prescription. Among them are cough and cold remedies and linctus for children. Pain relievers and antidepressants such as amitryptiline, Prozac and Seroxat are treated similarly, while the possession of poppy seeds, such as those used for baking, could lead to a four-year jail term.
@three wire
In regards to the qf pax?
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Antheads, whilst its true that in certain parts of the ME, there are some rather stringent interpretations regarding what the authorities consider controlled substances, the vast majority of passengers merely transit DXB, which means you don't clear customs, nor do you enter the country.
What that essentially does is lower the risk that you may inadvertently import something that is prohibited, but just like Oz, ignorance is no defence.
There are plenty of websites dedicated to this very subject for any number of countries around the world....if the travelling public choose to ignore the pertinent info that's available...then more fool them.
The last paragraph in the article sums things up perfectly..
Where is the ambiguity in that?
What that essentially does is lower the risk that you may inadvertently import something that is prohibited, but just like Oz, ignorance is no defence.
There are plenty of websites dedicated to this very subject for any number of countries around the world....if the travelling public choose to ignore the pertinent info that's available...then more fool them.
The last paragraph in the article sums things up perfectly..
According to the medical department of the United Arab Embassy in London, any medication is acceptable if it has been prescribed by a doctor and the passenger has a prescription including name, address and date of birth.
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Haughtney,
Last time I transited DXB (early-2009), I had a 6-hour layover so hotel accommodation was provided.
This was close to, but off the airport and required immigration and customs clearance.
There was a case not long before that of a Brit who spent the better part of 2008 in the local lock-up for having something the size of a grain of sand, caught in the tread of his shoes.
And if you need melatonin to help you sleep on your slip, well, don't. And don't have it in your bloodstream, either.
Last time I transited DXB (early-2009), I had a 6-hour layover so hotel accommodation was provided.
This was close to, but off the airport and required immigration and customs clearance.
There was a case not long before that of a Brit who spent the better part of 2008 in the local lock-up for having something the size of a grain of sand, caught in the tread of his shoes.
And if you need melatonin to help you sleep on your slip, well, don't. And don't have it in your bloodstream, either.
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Haughtney,
Last time I transited DXB (early-2009), I had a 6-hour layover so hotel accommodation was provided.
This was close to, but off the airport and required immigration and customs clearance.
There was a case not long before that of a Brit who spent the better part of 2008 in the local lock-up for having something the size of a grain of sand, caught in the tread of his shoes.
And if you need melatonin to help you sleep on your slip, well, don't. And don't have it in your bloodstream, either.
Last time I transited DXB (early-2009), I had a 6-hour layover so hotel accommodation was provided.
This was close to, but off the airport and required immigration and customs clearance.
There was a case not long before that of a Brit who spent the better part of 2008 in the local lock-up for having something the size of a grain of sand, caught in the tread of his shoes.
And if you need melatonin to help you sleep on your slip, well, don't. And don't have it in your bloodstream, either.
The implication is that you weren't...if so why not? or more to the point was it something that you didn't consider? or weren't informed would be happening?
Like I said, where ever you go, you should be aware of the local laws and customs relating to medication, alcohol, cigarettes and anything else that comes under the radar of customs.
For example I know going into Oz or NZ bio-security is a big thing, it's just the way it is...no stress.
The authorities in the UAE generally don't want to bang up foreigners, and particularly in Dubai they realise it is bad PR, most of the cases that make it to the press have far more to them than just the headline, and as the quote from the official says..if you've got a prescription with the relevant details..you have nothing to worry about.
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H1, your question is fair and reasonable.
In early-2009, I was unaware I'd be leaving the terminal as it was the then-brand new T3 at DXB (which had opened whilst I was travelling); my prior experience in the previous terminal was that you'd have to while away a long layover in the EK lounge (which had rooms available). That lounge was airside and within the customs area.
It was only when I got to the check-in at the African port and asked to book a room in the EK lounge, that I was told that accommodation for the layover was off-site and a voucher issued for it. Hence no, I had not really considered it.
This wasn't an issue for me in terms of carrying anything untoward; I think I may have had some ibuprofen which I ditched. The only issue was the transfers & hotel check-in/out detracting from my sleep time.
However think about the case of someone who, due to food allergies, may travel with epinephrine, for which no prescription is required in Australia. That person should not have to risk going to jail for carrying something for the purposes of saving their life.
I agree your point re local laws & customs, however WRT the comparison of carrying fruit into Aus - we don't tend to bang anyone up for inadvertently carrying an apple in.
My point is that there are shades of grey. If you market yourself as a worldly place, you have to have worldly attitudes. Giving someone a 4-year stretch for (possibly accidentally) carrying something which clearly would not undermine order amongst the local populace is arguably somewhat stiff.
In early-2009, I was unaware I'd be leaving the terminal as it was the then-brand new T3 at DXB (which had opened whilst I was travelling); my prior experience in the previous terminal was that you'd have to while away a long layover in the EK lounge (which had rooms available). That lounge was airside and within the customs area.
It was only when I got to the check-in at the African port and asked to book a room in the EK lounge, that I was told that accommodation for the layover was off-site and a voucher issued for it. Hence no, I had not really considered it.
This wasn't an issue for me in terms of carrying anything untoward; I think I may have had some ibuprofen which I ditched. The only issue was the transfers & hotel check-in/out detracting from my sleep time.
However think about the case of someone who, due to food allergies, may travel with epinephrine, for which no prescription is required in Australia. That person should not have to risk going to jail for carrying something for the purposes of saving their life.
I agree your point re local laws & customs, however WRT the comparison of carrying fruit into Aus - we don't tend to bang anyone up for inadvertently carrying an apple in.
My point is that there are shades of grey. If you market yourself as a worldly place, you have to have worldly attitudes. Giving someone a 4-year stretch for (possibly accidentally) carrying something which clearly would not undermine order amongst the local populace is arguably somewhat stiff.
Let's get back on topic, please
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Sims rejects call for forensic Qantas audit
Sims rejects call for forensic Qantas audit
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Australian Competition and Consumer Commission chairman Rod Sims has dismissed calls to take a closer look at Qantas’s finances as it finalises its decision on the airline’s alliance with Emirates, saying there is not enough competitive detriment to warrant a more forensic examination.
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Australian Competition and Consumer Commission chairman Rod Sims has dismissed calls to take a closer look at Qantas’s finances as it finalises its decision on the airline’s alliance with Emirates, saying there is not enough competitive detriment to warrant a more forensic examination.
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Rod Sims, chairman of the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, may well be pondering the lyrics of Mick Jagger’s Satisfaction in the coming weeks as he grapples with the proposed Qantas/Emirates alliance
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Senator Xenophon has entered the struggle between those who want to give Qantas away to Emirates, and those who want to flog it to private equity and plunder the good bits, with a bid to make the ACCC probe deeper into its internal finances. This isn’t going to end well for anyone.
A last minute effort by independent SA Senator, Nick Xenophon, to broaden the ACCC’s consideration of its provisional approval of the proposed Qantas-Emirates ‘partnership’ has been simultaneously suggested and rejected in today’s AFR.
A last minute effort by independent SA Senator, Nick Xenophon, to broaden the ACCC’s consideration of its provisional approval of the proposed Qantas-Emirates ‘partnership’ has been simultaneously suggested and rejected in today’s AFR.
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It would appear QF WILL AQUIre some of EKS 777s to operate from Dubai to destinations in Europe where the Emirates reciprocal or landing rights are exhausted. The 777 s will be in QF colors with Emirates crew operating to save on wages and training costs.
These new flights will connect hopefully to extra QF A380s from all ports in Australia.
Its a big advantage for QF BUT NOT MUCH GAIN FOR THE QF staff , one would have to be concerned that the A380 flying could also become a wet lease due to the savings possible.
QF domestic will be at an advantage with the extra on carriage.
These new flights will connect hopefully to extra QF A380s from all ports in Australia.
Its a big advantage for QF BUT NOT MUCH GAIN FOR THE QF staff , one would have to be concerned that the A380 flying could also become a wet lease due to the savings possible.
QF domestic will be at an advantage with the extra on carriage.
The 777 s will be in QF colors with Emirates crew operating to save on wages and training costs.
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So Qantas colours with A6 or VH rego?